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No one likes that dub. It's why Sabat was able to say this to that version's Vegeta.
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As much as people give shit to Sean for his obsession with being Goku, Chris acts like he's all of Dragon ball. It's his studio they record super at, he is in possession of masters for Z (that fans donated to him) and he seems to be the one that a good chunk of the cast owe their positions to.

It's going to be fun watching Beard/Toei run this Joss Whedon looking gimp through.
 
I mean, one of the things that tell me that Toei are NOT on Rial Sabatage's side is that they have acted against them a lot in the last month. With the Vegeta image and the Bulma's accesories. And after the failure of Funimation DBZ blue-ray that everyone is hating on (which they should), and all of this situation with Vic, that Toei selected itself, i am pretty sure that happy Toei is not.

But i always though they would be more of "wait and see" than actually go full Oda Nobunaga on Funi's asses.
i'd think more date masamune. oda got betrayed by his number 2 and burned alive for it.

"The hotogisu's song was one day sought by the Three Shogun of the Sengoku.

Oda said: If the bird does not sing, kill it.

Toyotomi said: If the bird does not sing, coax it.

Tokugawa said: If the bird does not sing, wait for it."

Knowing the most successful of them, I think I know who is doing what.
 
There's two potential solutions and which works depends on the individual infection.

The first option is when the infection is still in its infancy. Then it can be fought on the beaches and in the trenches. This typically is what happens in vidya. The fanbase can rally to oppose the threat and can warn one another about it. They may not be able to necessarily stop it, but they can cause so many problems and so much frustration that it helps guarantee that the thing fails, and that helps ensure that such shit won't be attempted again. More rarely, the community rallies to expunge the threat (this is what happened in 40K), and manages to fight them from the barricades. Other devs won't be intimidated and won't back down. They will find themselves supported and can count on a devoted fanbase who will buy their shit in the future.

In cases where the infection is terminal, like Hollywood, there's nothing you can do: the host can't be saved. What you can do is refuse to be party to it. Financially this crap sells like sno-cones made from nuclear slag, to the point where even shit that would be a financial no-brainer has been an economic dumpster-fire. They can't even pretend to be appealing to anyone because nobody wants this shit. China, the biggest market for movies, fucking hates woke movies. Every single Marvel comic done by the woke crowd has been a financial failure likable to a biblical plague. Sooner or later, the fact that this is market poison is going to be sinking in deeper and deeper. In some areas, it already has.

All of this begs the question: Why do they do it, if they know it's going to fail? Key to the above is that SJWs believe that customers, by definition, should have no rights, and that the consumerbase ergo must concede to their demands. I'm mostly sure that this stems from the fact that most are communists and don't know how to economics, but the overarching issue is that for them, ruining a franchise like this is win-win: If it does well anyway, it proves the ideology right, and if it fails, it keeps the franchise out of the hands of those loathsome customers.

In the end, economic self-interest will bring an end to this sort of entryistic behavior, but it's going to get worse before it gets better.

Lex Luther was a misunderstood genius. He was the true hero of the movie!

Actually Hollywood is a self correcting problem. Note how little production actually happens in Hollywood or even California anymore. California has Metasticized. While everyone mouthed the left wing platitudes, the money people are swiftly moving the actual work out to deep Red “Right to Work” states. The cinemas are dying. Traditional broadcast tv is dying. And much like digital print and music, actual production is becoming easier, cheaper do more able to be done locally anywhere. At this point Hollywood is just a habit. One that more and more consumers are breaking, and more and more producers are leaving.

Just take Nick as an example. He’s doing a 2-3 hour stream most nights. A stream that a good sized block of people are watching, instead of the Hollywood produced late night talk show pablum. There are thousands just like Nick. And virtually none of them are SJW. The bedrock is shifting under their feet.
 
In a manner of speaking, they still managed to advocate for that. All that bullshit about him breaking ethical canons of being a lawyer and how everybody should report him.

Disbarment is the death penalty for a lawyer. You can't practice law anywhere if you are disbarred.

It's shitty to go after a person's livelihood unless that person is a danger to other people, but Nick reading through those ethics complaints are some of the funniest and most amusing things to come out of this whole ordeal. So much of it was just pure gold.
 
Sony is not going to want to cross horns with Toei, not one bit. Toei is smaller but when it comes to Funimation they own all the cards in the matter. Toei owns the Dragon Ball license and Sony/Funimation will be forced to deal with them. If they piss them off, they will either let the license expire or find a clause to end the relationship even earlier. And if Funimation loses the rights to Dragon Ball, Sony has effectively wasted all their money on acquiring them.

If they truly felt like being petty, Toei could solely just release collaborations with Shueisha and Bandai. There are many pieces of DBZ animation that are stuck in Japan because either Shueisha commissioned them (2008 special with Tarble, Episode of Bardock where he goes Super Saiyan) or are Bandai's property relegating them to video games only or promo work (Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans, Dragon Ball Heroes).

If Shueisha felt like it, they could easily get Viz to release this stuff. Viz is partly owned by Shueisha. And people would not complain about more new animations for the video games.
 
In a manner of speaking, they still managed to advocate for that. All that bullshit about him breaking ethical canons of being a lawyer and how everybody should report him.

Disbarment is the death penalty for a lawyer. You can't practice law anywhere if you are disbarred.

Bar associations don't disbar you because some mentally ill assclown crybaby isn't happy about you doing your job.
 
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(For those who don't know, this guy is (i believe) the head honcho of Toei)

EDIT: Sorry, i put the old one, this is the one.
 
Sony is not going to want to cross horns with Toei, not one bit. Toei is smaller but when it comes to Funimation they own all the cards in the matter. Toei owns the Dragon Ball license and Sony/Funimation will be forced to deal with them. If they piss them off, they will either let the license expire or find a clause to end the relationship even earlier. And if Funimation loses the rights to Dragon Ball, Sony has effectively wasted all their money on acquiring them.

If they truly felt like being petty, Toei could solely just release collaborations with Shueisha and Bandai. There are many pieces of DBZ animation that are stuck in Japan because either Shueisha commissioned them (2008 special with Tarble, Episode of Bardock where he goes Super Saiyan) or are Bandai's property relegating them to video games only or promo work (Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans, Dragon Ball Heroes).

If Shueisha felt like it, they could easily get Viz to release this stuff. Viz is partly owned by Shueisha. And people would not complain about more new animations for the video games.

Honestly I wouldn't mind seeing VIZ release more SJ conent, especially DB stuff. But I worry what that'll do to the entire market.
 
now here's the funny thing. sony began in japan, but now that its fully defected to america and its ideals.... well... lets just say Toei and other japanese corps are going to be far, far less forgiving of sleights from them and their ilk.

why I said sony will eventually rescind their no adult games on PS4 order. these nippon corps are going to be passive aggressive until sony returns.

why? japanese can handle people leaving because things are hard. what they can't handle are traitors and sony kinda did that by basically moving and then telling japanese devs to bend or get bent.

And Sadly XBOX being a western brand, and pretty much same politics as Sony now......That leaves Nintendo........
 
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Both the old one and the new one, look like the guys that would call all their yakuza contacts on you for making them lose a single yen. Imagine what will they do to Sabat :story:
funny enough, unlikely. corps usually keep that stuff for inter-office conflicts. they do not try that with overseas clients. hilariously enough, that's a bridge too far for them.
 
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