Shane Holmberg / Shane Presley Holmberg - The Containment Cell for The Breaker of Chairs, Eater of Shoes, Groomer of His Child Bride

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Shane_Yes_That_One said:
Actually a good question so it is worth an answer. The problem comes in with assuming one person makes one allegation and that is it. Of course that is going to be called into question by everyone.
In this situation it was not one person randomly out of the blue making an allegation. It was someone like 10 years ago making one. And then in another part of the country someone else. Then someone else. Always about the same person. And this went on for years. YEARS. Even when some cons banned/blacklisted him for things, other cons kept bringing him cause money. Then people forget. People who don't remember or were not around for the days when there were websites dedicated to nothing but those people with bad experiences. So over the course of years there is stuff everyone knows is going on, but just don't have quite enough proof to do anything about it. Or are scared to say anything as they would be the only ones. So it gets pushed aside and ignored. Money right? It didn't happen at "their" show so no reason to worry about what happened at someone elses. Eventually enough stuff all came out at once way before Monica, Funi, and others got involved that it ended up being a situation of "Hey this is bad, we have known this, lets drop him". Then the next con who knew said "Look they are doing it we can finally do it too". Then the next, and next, and eventually there was so much public support to do it a domino effect occurred. Then of course came along statements from famous VAs, kickvick crews, and others which sort of muddied the waters. But at the end of the day the problem is what everyone knew but never told anyone. Cause how can a guy with his name in forums still today about sexual harassment, bad jokes in the booth about consent, and all these accusations be going strong and no one knows? Well cause people decided not to tell you. And you hear about it all at once and of course are in shock cause wtf just happened.
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Bullshit. These rumors and "accusations" have been made up for years by volunteers and staff at cons who like to shit talk guests behind their back while under the stress of the logistics of a convention.


Only it is still happening cause they are still not telling you what they should. If it doesn't hit their pocket why should they get involved?

So someone asked what my end goal was earlier and this is it. People don't have to be pedophiles or rapists to do something wrong. Not everything is such an extreme. Heck in a life everyone rubs someone the wrong way at some point. You figure it out, correct it and move on. But in this situation, even though he already admitted that he may have done something that made someone uncomfortable, and that was fucking good enough for me, then all this twitter shit started and everyone trying to prove he was like Jesus and without any sins. For gods sake he is just a man who may have screwed up. he said he may have, apologized, lets fucking move on already. But people cant let it go. There are so caught up on both sides to making this some rally cry for a fight against a cultural movement, they all take for granted this man who dedicated his life to anime and the industry who is now being used by both sides for nothing but cheap points.

Vic is not the only person who has done inappropriate shit. He was just the one who got called out, didn't listen and kept doing it. So shit got bad for him. And right after he apologized and admitted there were things he needed to fix, people on both sides hijacked the conversation because of some cultural war they wanted to fight.
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Still calling bullshit, because we've yet to see a instance of "inappropriate shit" didn't get revealed as "I and another VA had a consensual encounter, but then I felt totally grodie so that VA raped me."

He could have had an actual comeback starting months ago people too many people on both sides decided he was nothing more than a pawn in whatever game they were playing.

Vic did some stuff he shouldn't have. Doesn't mean he is a predator, or a pedophile. He just did some inappropriate things. Everyone does. He admitted it, and said he was fixing it. Good enough, take his fucking word for it and move on.
But too many people have to hijack to make a buck. Cause outrage sells subscribers.
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By that logic, then every single of #KickVic is guilty of trying to make a buck on Vic's misfortune -- and that's exactly what they have been doing, while using you as a shield and a useful idiot.

And no, Vic wouldn't be able to come back -- his name would have been Mudd if Nick and BHBH didn't step in.


Kari Kamiya said:
So the TL;DR on Shane's novella is that Vic's totally fucking guilty but not really guise because there's worse people out there, please pay attention to me because I have autism and my wife's not pegging me tonight?
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Pretty much.
 
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SinglePlayerCarl said:
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First off:


Secondly:


Thirdly:



That's pathetic, Shane. But thank you for answering.


And fourth:
The point is that the public has/will has no idea and no reasons to trust if what you're saying is accurate on your word alone.


Which is why I keep daring you to announce this information, in detail, without missing a beat on Twitter.

Someone will have multiple thoughts, and the niggling feeling in the back of the mind is going to echo a question of fridge horror:

What if Shane is lying, and his friend basically made a compact to "sell" his daughter as a underage bride to Shame Holmberg?"

All it takes is one person to press X to doubt, buddy.

Optics are a powerful thing, in the absence of evidence, proof, trust, and verification.​
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Do you actually trust the people you've been cooperating with to not let the public's imagination run wild and go with the darkest interpretation imaginable and keep on truckin' without you?​
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You have literally nothing to talk about except dissing on my family. Think about that for a moment.
 
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KEK7go said:
I would assume he is masturbating at all the attention he is getting from us as he does not seem to be getting any from his wife.

EDIT: NVM HOLY FUCK HE WROTE A NOVEL
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His novel is the same drivel he's been saying for months now, you could just paste together a few of @Army Burger's posts and get the same effect. He's like a broken record only this broken record will eat your shoes and marry your daughter after a few months.
 
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Shane_Yes_That_One said:
I suggest you start donating, cause if even one accuser is left then it is game over for Vic.
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No you fucking moron. It isn’t. It doesn’t work that way. Your friends are the defendants. If one of the claims they made is untrue they lose it all. It doesn’t matter if they find one nutcase to swear that Vic May have touched her bum 18 years ago. Toye has claimed “dozens of victims”. If he can’t put 24+1 named identified individuals on the stand he has a rather expensive problem. You morons have each spit out hundreds of tweets with defamatory claims. They will each be addressed individually. And if the tweeter lies when asked they will get destroyed. They won’t be able to bring a nonstop parade of vague claims. This doesn’t work like the Kavanaugh hearings. It’s not political theater. It’s an actual legal matter. Things don’t work the way you seemingly think they do. Any actual lawyers that have looked at or commented on it see a strong prima facia case from Vic. One that will survive any summary motions to dismiss or SLAPP filings. Your friends are in trouble. They chose mob rule over rule of law. And you continue to feed everyone stunningly bad advice.
 
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Shane_Yes_That_One said:
Actually a good question so it is worth an answer. The problem comes in with assuming one person makes one allegation and that is it. Of course that is going to be called into question by everyone.
In this situation it was not one person randomly out of the blue making an allegation. It was someone like 10 years ago making one. And then in another part of the country someone else. Then someone else. Always about the same person. And this went on for years. YEARS. Even when some cons banned/blacklisted him for things, other cons kept bringing him cause money. Then people forget. People who don't remember or were not around for the days when there were websites dedicated to nothing but those people with bad experiences. So over the course of years there is stuff everyone knows is going on, but just don't have quite enough proof to do anything about it. Or are scared to say anything as they would be the only ones. So it gets pushed aside and ignored. Money right? It didn't happen at "their" show so no reason to worry about what happened at someone elses. Eventually enough stuff all came out at once way before Monica, Funi, and others got involved that it ended up being a situation of "Hey this is bad, we have known this, lets drop him". Then the next con who knew said "Look they are doing it we can finally do it too". Then the next, and next, and eventually there was so much public support to do it a domino effect occurred. Then of course came along statements from famous VAs, kickvick crews, and others which sort of muddied the waters. But at the end of the day the problem is what everyone knew but never told anyone. Cause how can a guy with his name in forums still today about sexual harassment, bad jokes in the booth about consent, and all these accusations be going strong and no one knows? Well cause people decided not to tell you. And you hear about it all at once and of course are in shock cause wtf just happened.

Only it is still happening cause they are still not telling you what they should. If it doesn't hit their pocket why should they get involved?

So someone asked what my end goal was earlier and this is it. People don't have to be pedophiles or rapists to do something wrong. Not everything is such an extreme. Heck in a life everyone rubs someone the wrong way at some point. You figure it out, correct it and move on. But in this situation, even though he already admitted that he may have done something that made someone uncomfortable, and that was fucking good enough for me, then all this twitter shit started and everyone trying to prove he was like Jesus and without any sins. For gods sake he is just a man who may have screwed up. he said he may have, apologized, lets fucking move on already. But people cant let it go. There are so caught up on both sides to making this some rally cry for a fight against a cultural movement, they all take for granted this man who dedicated his life to anime and the industry who is now being used by both sides for nothing but cheap points.

Vic is not the only person who has done inappropriate shit. He was just the one who got called out, didn't listen and kept doing it. So shit got bad for him. And right after he apologized and admitted there were things he needed to fix, people on both sides hijacked the conversation because of some cultural war they wanted to fight.

He could have had an actual comeback starting months ago people too many people on both sides decided he was nothing more than a pawn in whatever game they were playing.

Vic did some stuff he shouldn't have. Doesn't mean he is a predator, or a pedophile. He just did some inappropriate things. Everyone does. He admitted it, and said he was fixing it. Good enough, take his fucking word for it and move on.
But too many people have to hijack to make a buck. Cause outrage sells subscribers.
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SinglePlayerCarl said:
Bullshit. These rumors and "accusations" have been made up for years by volunteers and staff at cons who like to shit talk guests behind their back while under the stress of the logistics of a convention.




Still calling bullshit, because we've yet to see a instance of "inappropriate shit" didn't get revealed as "I and another VA had a consensual encounter, but then I felt totally grodie so that VA raped me."




By that logic, then every single of #KickVic is guilty of trying to make a buck on Vic's misfortune -- and that's exactly what they have been doing, while using you as a shield and a useful idiot.

And no, Vic wouldn't be able to come back -- his name would have been Mudd if Nick and BHBH didn't step in.




Pretty much.
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We are totally having sex again tonight, thanks for asking. If you don't know what sex is or just can't have any yourself I can give you a play by play later.

How in the world do you think Nick and BHBH is part of a comeback when those who run cons outside of me say it it makes it less likely they ever invite him?
 
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Shane_Yes_That_One said:
Lol no one got anything in the mail today and there is exactly 5 hours and 24 minutes until a certain vic follower is proven wrong and Monica doesn't get served tomorrow.

You all should quit hanging on every single word of Nick like it was the gospel.
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He's been more right then you are.

Shane_Yes_That_One said:
Not really an anime fan. What were you watching?
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Jesus Christ, then what are you even here for? If you are not an Anime fan what on gods good green earth are you doing trolling around conventions, inserting yourself into the fandom and acting as the bucket boy for a bunch of sheister voice actors out to get rid of their professional competition?
 
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The Wisdom of Bassets said:
Did you think about the family or the DISABLED GIRL your animals fraudulently used to accuse a man of sexual assault?
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I have literally no idea what disabled girl you are talking about. A guess off hand is maybe one of the ANN photos but I already dissed them pretty hard for their shitty journalism.
 
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Shane_Yes_That_One said:
We are totally having sex again tonight, thanks for asking. If you don't know what sex is or just can't have any yourself I can give you a play by play later.

How in the world do you think Nick and BHBH is part of a comeback when those who run cons outside of me say it it makes it less likely they ever invite him?
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There’s something inherently funny about a beta trying to play the part of an alpha male stud.
Like a chihuahua thinking it’s a pit bull.
 
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