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Along with the shield hero bit, this aslo popped up on my google.http://twincitiesgeek.com/2019/04/how-do-we-deal-with-the-fallout-of-anime-voice-actor-vic-mignogna/

Too drunk and tired to read it all but judging from the last few paragraphs, its a shit article.

EDIT: idk why i cant link it properly like i did with the shield hero link
 
Along with the shield hero bit, this aslo popped up on my google.http://twincitiesgeek.com/2019/04/how-do-we-deal-with-the-fallout-of-anime-voice-actor-vic-mignogna/

Too drunk and tired to read it all but judging from the last few paragraphs, its a shit article.

EDIT: idk why i cant link it properly like i did with the shield hero link
Remove the dot between google and http.
 
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i failed to keep up with the thread, what’s the gay op about? Something about patches, right?
Yes, apparently a user by the name of Shortround is behind all the patches on both sides, and yet la choy has proudly and publically ordered patches for "their" side. Shortround is an enterprising genius.
 
i failed to keep up with the thread, what’s the gay op about? Something about patches, right?
That would be correct, but I believe the one that everyone's talking about would be the one where Dominique Skye tried to pull off a gay op on Vic at KC using a stolen/borrowed/forged guest pass and getting thrown out by security. And while he did not witness it in person, she had the audacity to try it on the day Ty was at the con of all days.
 
Along with the shield hero bit, this aslo popped up on my googlehttp://twincitiesgeek.com/2019/04/how-do-we-deal-with-the-fallout-of-anime-voice-actor-vic-mignogna/

Too drunk and tired to read it all but judging from the last few paragraphs, its a shit article.

EDIT: idk why i cant link it properly like i did with the shield hero link
That would be correct, but I believe the one that everyone's talking about would be the one where Dominique Skye tried to pull off a gay op on Vic at KC using a stolen/borrowed/forged guest pass and getting thrown out by security. And while he did not witness it in person, she had the audacity to try it on the day Ty was at the con of all days.
Right. Seems the one I'm talking about, everone wants to keep contained for some reason even though i think it would be much funnier and pathetic if someone hit him with the truth about those patches. Of course he would probably not even acknowledge that he ordered the gay ops patches. Hell if Shortround him/herself hit him with the truth like "thanks for the money la choye, gonna use it on vic autographs" it would be fucking EPIC.
 
Wow.
So he's been larping as the "Believe Bulma" account too huh?
Also, I think you mean (((enterprising))) genius.
Correct. Although i wouldnt say "larping". He's pretty committed, even trolling/playing both sides against each other. He posts in this thread but I think he has only ever admitted it once.
 
Anyone else get the feeling that the 400 pages is just a not-so-subtle signal to the other lawyers? I mean, how many pages do you read in earnest before you just throw your hands up, and say "We're settling"?

If you're seeking exemplary damages and for some other reasons, you're required under Texas law to request a retraction of the defamatory material. So they're forced by the law to do this. It isn't just posturing for its own sake.
 
This might be (and is) me being slow, but Vic being disinvited and then reinvited to Kamehacon, and then making money at that convention brings an important point. This is no longer about hypothetical damages, we have him kicked from a convention due to action of certain individuals, and after getting back in he makes a substantial, quantifiable amount of cash. His revenue from KC cannot be disputed and it's one more factual argument for Vic. You could even use it as a basis for calculating damages as it's his first con since this debacle started off I get it right, and since it was such a success, that's quite a yardstick.

As for Dominique and the ongoing smash or pass argument - smash assuming I'm not in a committed relationship, I'm a sucker for big tits. If we're talking any sort of permanent relation though that's a pass, that woman has more red flags than the Soviet army on parade.
 
Am I the only person feeling like this is some ultimate bubble experiment coming to fruition?

The internet in theory is pretty amazing, but it's gotten too smart for our own good. Where once we had to face two sides of an argument, now we only see our side. Search engines and social media, once they know your opinion you only get fed from that drip feed. Then as if to make matters worse, social media made blocking people way too easy. It used to be that when you said stuff people disagreed with, you got your butt handed to you until you shut up or wizened up. But now, it's so easy to just block the dissenting voices. Worse, people can make multiple accounts, so these chronic blockers justify it as "well it's just one person obsessing over it."

Eventually, if we say something we believe, even if it's untrue, we aren't told we're wrong. And those bubbles stagnate until they stink to high heaven, with people forming their own cliques based on social media. Heck, I'm surprised they haven't convinced themselves that they control reality itself.

So then reality comes along and starts tearing down the bubble, and they cling so desperately to it. It's psychotic in nature - they block out any contradiction or anyone questioning their narrative. They're convinced they are right and true and the only voice of reason. Outsiders questioning it are a hostile force - they're blocked, or read as homicidal monsters. The bubble people believe so emphatically that they'll believe the narrative even as reality bulldozes them into the ground.

So now here we are, with a big bearded bulldozer, and a bunch of -absolutely insane- Kiwis archiving everything as another batch of cows are exposed to the world.
 
The psychological warfare from the Beard is exquisite. Having to answer to a strong woman about their fairy tale sex crime allegations is going to fuck with their heads. I wonder if they'll even be able to look at the Amazons in the eyes...
It could also have them mistakenly think the Amazons are allies just because they're women. It might make them more forthcoming and easy to trip up. After all if Soye just explains what a monster Vic is, surely these women will understand that they had to get him out of the industry.
 
This entire debacle is what happens when you attempt to treat reality like Twitter or social media.

You can try to defame and dogpile all you want, but the minute that victim lawyers up, the kid shit's over. And from where it stands now, it sounds like Monica, Dominique, Jamie, and anyone siding with KickVic is gonna find out the hard way.
 
I'm starting to think that the reason Vic was such a diva during work was because he was dealing with a group of incompetents -- not Rickey, though, he's an engineer and those tend to be fairly competent. Vic seems to have quite the long spanning career and probably a much more professional background, I'd throw diva tantrums too if I was dealing with VAs like Schemmel and Sabat or even directors that have no idea what they're doing. I don't think even saints have that kind of patience.

This, though... this makes me irrationally angry to read. It's innocent until proven guilty and while that's usually applied to criminal court it also can apply to civil matters. Although it doesn't really matter in this case since even if what they accuse Vic of having done had happened these idiots have already proven there to be a civil conspiracy and genuine malice. Not only that, but some people may have actually violated Texan law for not reporting it.

Honestly, I wish civics was a class you had to get a C or more in to pass high school. This is embarrassing.

Well if we assume that Sean's impression of him is rooted in some level of truth, just inflated and twisted for humor/out of malice, then you can actually see some of his 'diva' behavior in a sympathetic light. Essentially, the voice directors and such being absurd and irritating, and him not standing for it because he's been doing voice acting for 20 years and is considered not just popular but very good at his job.

I mean, look at the FMA live action movie dub. Whoever recorded or mixed or whatever his voice in that was so obnoxiously bad at their job that it's almost unwatchable. Everyone else has a dub about the expected level of a modern live action dub (their voices don't match lip movements, but they only make sound if the original actor is talking, no awkward silent lip flaps, voices sound like they belong in the movie and are coming from the characters) and then there's Ed's. For reasons I can't comprehend, even though his performance is fine, it sounds like it was filmed on a $2 microphone in someone's living room with the windows open. What I'm getting at is that he very clearly doesn't always end up working with competent people.

There is a reason everything is push-up and skin tight. Once she takes that off, those tits and ass are like egg yolk on a nail.

Nah. Those are so plastic they'll be perky 50 years after she's in the ground.

If the first four people are guessing are sued here’s how I see it.

Marchi and Funimation settle. Marchi seems to have wised up and stopped talking about kickvic since things have gotten more serious. Funimation will settle to keep more damaging things from getting out and to save money.

Soye will go down with the ship. He seems to think there’s a parade of women ready to condemn Vic on the stand in a trial.

Rial will just no show because she’s worthless and nothing to go after. She’ll stop talking about Vic though.

Marchi would be easy because of her malice, but I suspect someone like Marzgurl would be the smarter tactic, because she is a lynchpin in the conspiracy charges. Prove she conspired with ANN and you can drag ANN/the other CA people into it. Marchi's probably going to get taken down just by targeting Funimation, but Marzgurl, ANN, and the other tabloids attacking him will probably be more insulated against a Funi suit. Like little cells of conspiracy.

I think Ron and Monica are too stupid to settle because they think Iago and/or Igor will save them, Marzgurl will have no choice but to fold because she can't afford to fight it, and Funimation will at least file SLAPP and whatever else they can to obstruct Vic before they settle. If they were willing to settle immediately, they wouldn't wait to be served, and they certainly wouldn't refuse to even change their harrassment tweet despite being informed many, many times why it's a problem.

Funimation is going to probably do whatever embarrasses them least, but settling won't save them from discovery due to people like Monica, Sabat, and Marchi almost certainly involving Funimation in their conspiracy. Thus, I imagine they'll try to be difficult in the hopes that Ty and Vic decide they're too much trouble to deal with.


They should see the losers who went and took some photos at a card shop with a random dragonball commenter and a bad cosplayer.
 
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This is the only cucked vid i can find on twitter. https://twitter.com/MikeFritzArt/status/1117114748540264448
This is why we archive:
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Looking at Comic Cuck's selfie here, I'm reminded of one of @Null's streams (don't remember which one):
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