Is anyone really free?

[JosephStalin]

Usually take long walks in the morning. Gives me time to think.

Today, the question, "Is anyone really free?" came to mind.

I believe every one of us exists in a cage, literal, figurative, or both. The cage can be of one's own making, or imposed due to circumstances beyond one's control, or both. Cages are of different sizes. Sometimes we never notice the presence of that cage until it makes itself known. Cages are anything from decrepit to luxurious.

In my opinion, the only place a person can be truly free is in their own minds. Cages confine the body, but not the mind. One is free to think as they please. One is not free to do as they please. One way or another, there are constraints limiting actions and/or there are consequences of actions. But there are no constraints hampering thoughts, and no consequences of merely thinking any particular thought. So think, and be free.

Just some musings by Uncle Joe Stalin.

 

[1864897514651]

Jesus was not kept on His cross by the nails, but by His Love for us. We are free in the purity of love, but enslaved in the mire of sin if we reject love. You are completely free to choose between good and evil. The consequences do not constrain those of us that choose to love God.

 

[LinuxVoid]

Freedom is a lie. You think, because you feel like thinking it, not because you have gathered the will to do so. Basically, you don't have free will, you do what your impulses tell you to do and everything you think is a mixture of your instincts, genetics, whatever. Of course the veneer of freedom is appealing to most of us, wanting to escape the simple truth that we are just gatherings of flesh and bone.

 

[ProgKing of the North]

Jesus was not kept on His cross by the nails, but by His Love for us. We are free in the purity of love, but enslaved in the mire of sin if we reject love. You are completely free to choose between good and evil. The consequences do not constrain those of us that choose to love God.

your posts ranting against niggers and faggots don't show much love, though

 

[RG 448]

Not at the moment but the ankle bracelet comes off in a week.

 

[Null]

i am

 

[Tragi-Chan]

I’m free tomorrow evening from 6 HMU.

 

[The Crow]

We'll never truely be free until we leave these bodies and become spirits in the afterlife. There's my two cents.

 

[FA 855]

Usually take long walks in the morning. Gives me time to think.

Today, the question, "Is anyone really free?" came to mind.

I believe every one of us exists in a cage, literal, figurative, or both. The cage can be of one's own making, or imposed due to circumstances beyond one's control, or both. Cages are of different sizes. Sometimes we never notice the presence of that cage until it makes itself known. Cages are anything from decrepit to luxurious.

In my opinion, the only place a person can be truly free is in their own minds. Cages confine the body, but not the mind. One is free to think as they please. One is not free to do as they please. One way or another, there are constraints limiting actions and/or there are consequences of actions. But there are no constraints hampering thoughts, and no consequences of merely thinking any particular thought. So think, and be free.

Just some musings by Uncle Joe Stalin.

Long quote but its really useful.
“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ...We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. ...In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons...who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind.”
― Edward Bernays
If you aren't physically imprisoned, you may very well be mentally, that goes for almost everyone I'd say, and if someone is sure of themselves as being free, they are very likely to be wrong, only through constant paranoia and self doubt does anyone even have a shot at being free.
To answer you properly I would say a good start is to be able to critique everything, and that includes even things you might not want to critique. That establishes autonomy, and perhaps from their you can create your own island of enlightened reason (otherwise if you are a believer in a ideology but you refuse to critique it, you come at risk of being a puppet for whoever made or controls the narrative in question). Never become complacent in your sense of security, because you might find one day that you aren't as free as you thought.
See Nietzsche and slave morality, as well as the collective unconsciousness, it is a huge source of influence on your thought patterns.
Good luck in your endeavours, I mean it, and enjoy the journey as much as the destination.

 

[JosephStalin]

i am

Why do you believe you are free? Not trying to be rude, just would like to hear your viewpoint.

 

[Pathos]

Finding happiness and satisfaction in what you do and who you are as well as living the way you want to regardless of social pressures is freedom to me.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

I am not totally free, because I am restrained by the facts of life- so I cannot choose to be a different height, a different race, or to suddenly define gravity or defy the most base biological dictates. In this sense, none of us are totally free. But the fact is that we choose each act we perform by ourselves. Today, I could have chosen not to go to work, but I did so even though I did not feel like it. If I wanted, I could have chosen to quit my job, and perhaps even to throw some vile substance at my irritating co-worker while doing so- but I did not, because I like my job and the money associated with it more than I dislike my coworker. Just because a choice would cause things you find unpleasant, or even lead to your immanent death, does not make it any less of a choice. We are in this world because, at this moment, we have chosen not to kill ourselves.

Freedom is a lie. You think, because you feel like thinking it, not because you have gathered the will to do so. Basically, you don't have free will, you do what your impulses tell you to do and everything you think is a mixture of your instincts, genetics, whatever. Of course the veneer of freedom is appealing to most of us, wanting to escape the simple truth that we are just gatherings of flesh and bone.

1. Being made of flesh and bone does not negate free will.
2. Show me where my instincts tell me to enjoy television.

 

[qt farmer :)]

Usually take long walks in the morning. Gives me time to think.

Today, the question, "Is anyone really free?" came to mind.

I believe every one of us exists in a cage, literal, figurative, or both. The cage can be of one's own making, or imposed due to circumstances beyond one's control, or both. Cages are of different sizes. Sometimes we never notice the presence of that cage until it makes itself known. Cages are anything from decrepit to luxurious.

In my opinion, the only place a person can be truly free is in their own minds. Cages confine the body, but not the mind. One is free to think as they please. One is not free to do as they please. One way or another, there are constraints limiting actions and/or there are consequences of actions. But there are no constraints hampering thoughts, and no consequences of merely thinking any particular thought. So think, and be free.

Just some musings by Uncle Joe Stalin.

we still aren't entirely free in our own minds because we are still held in some limitations by its capacity! honk honk!

 

[1864897514651]

[redacted]

You do not comprehend the context those words were used in. To love is to be a witness to the Truth. Attempting to defame me just because I say the words "faggot" and "nigger" is not going to be enough for people that actually understood what I articulated in my words.

Furthermore, if you are going to ride on your high horse, then you should explain why you called God a "fucker" because He would not give you a million dollars and a girlfriend with DDs. I call out sinners for their failings so that they can come to penance. You, however, call out God for some absolute nonsense and commit a mortal sin against the Second Commandment in the process.

And in case you do not remember what I am referring to, then here is a link to your post, which is conveniently in my thread:

[redacted]

 

[ProgKing of the North]

You do not comprehend the context those words were used in. To love is to be a witness to the Truth. Attempting to defame me just because I say the words "faggot" and "nigger" is not going to be enough for people that actually understood what I articulated in my words.

Furthermore, if you are going to ride on your high horse, then you should explain why you called God a "fucker" because He would not give you a million dollars and a girlfriend with DDs. I call out sinners for their failings so that they can come to penance. You, however, call out God for some absolute nonsense and commit a mortal sin against the Second Commandment in the process.

And in case you do not remember what I am referring to, then here is a link to your post, which is conveniently in my thread:

I don't care that you use the words nigger and faggot, you chinky kike niggerfaggot. I'm just pointing out that you seem to have consistent hostility towards black and gay people just for being black and gay, which isn't a very loving attitude. Also the fact that you seem to be the arbiter of what is Truth and Godly behavior would seem to be the sin of pride, I already have a Savior on this forum, and his name is @Brad Watson_Miami

Although I don't know why I'm wasting time arguing with somebody too autistic to understand what a joke is.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

I don't care that you use the words nigger and faggot, you chinky kike niggerfaggot. I'm just pointing out that you seem to have consistent hostility towards black and gay people just for being black and gay, which isn't a very loving attitude. Also the fact that you seem to be the arbiter of what is Truth and Godly behavior would seem to be the sin of pride, I already have a Savior on this forum, and his name is @Brad Watson_Miami

Although I don't know why I'm wasting time arguing with somebody too autistic to understand what a joke is.

I have a great deal of respect for @1864897514651 for having bedrock faith in something- it's a rare trait. Now if only what he believed wasn't so full of bile and hate that claims to be love...

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

Don't let the sjws and jews control BCI tech unless you want real thought crimes

"Does free will exist?"
"FUCK THE JOOOS!"
Is that just your default response to any statement?

 

[Hikikomori-Yume]

Freedom is a lie. You think, because you feel like thinking it, not because you have gathered the will to do so. Basically, you don't have free will, you do what your impulses tell you to do and everything you think is a mixture of your instincts, genetics, whatever. Of course the veneer of freedom is appealing to most of us, wanting to escape the simple truth that we are just gatherings of flesh and bone.

None of that is stopping us from living wonderful hedonistic lives in virtual reality

"Does free will exist?"
"FUCK THE JOOOS!"
Is that just your default response to any statement?

JIDF spotted

 

[Positron]

No. We are under the constraint of our biological bodies, our histories, and our social standings.

Sartre avers that every person is radically free; even a man behind bars is radically free because he can picture himself not to be in jail. But even Sartre's notion of radical freedom is far from absolute; a person's "radical freedom" is limited by other people's equally "radical" freedom. Hence his notorious adage: Hell is other people.

Today, the question, "Is anyone really free?" came to mind.

I think the more pertinent questions are: do we need absolute freedom? What good is absolute freedom? If we don't need absolute freedom, then how much freedom is good enough?

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

JIDF spotted

This isn't /pol/, lad, you don't get to just play the "YOU A JEW" card and win the argument.