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All I know is the transition will be strange considering how invested people are in SJW stuff and TDS. It's less likely going to be dropped like a rock rather than morph into something more palatable. It'd be one of those things where change happens yet everyone pretends it hasn't.
I'm not sure how smooth that change will be. There will be many lulz along the way watching the screeching and mental gymnastics, though. I think this current ideological strain of the left is going to prove much more virulent. It will shrink, and the DNC will sober up, but the religious fervour of these ideological lightbulb lickers is, I suspect, going to be immune from change for ten million Americans.

It's a religious cult, and is utterly immune to reasoning. I suppose many will evaporate from the ideology slowly for self-serving reasons, but many are so deeply brainwashed by the cult, I see no hope for them.

I was a registered Democrat before the 2016 elections.

Somewhat similar conversion, I suppose, minus the little old lady.

I spent 50 years proudly considering myself a socialist, strongly leaning to anarchism. There were many things about the left I disagreed with, but basically glossed over in a hypocritical way I never would have with a right wing person.

IT was actually listening to Trump's rallies, realizing he basically just has "dad humour" and his policies are nothing unpalatable, seeing the vast misrepresentations in the media, the dehumanizing and hate-filled screeds of friends on social media, the endless hypocrisy from the left that made the "veil fall from my eyes", so to speak.

I always had some mixed beliefs, like anti-gun control, pro-universal health care, and many other things, but it was the attacks on Trump that altered my views from fairly radically left, to moderate right.

I can't imagine how many others have been affected this way.
 
RIP may their souls find peace in the great oven in the skies.

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This cuck calls for unity yet bashes Trump.

By the way, I talked to some liberal people that agree with me that Biden will get the nomination but disagree with me that Biden will beat Trump by using the Obama nostalgia card.

If Biden get the nomination, I wonder who could be the more credible as Democrat vice-president candidate?
 
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Of all the current candidates, Biden does stand the best chance against Trump but given how fragmented the Democratic voter base is and how for a lot of leftists, the memory of Bernie's defeat to Hillary in 2016 is still a sore spot, I'm still wondering what Biden's strategy would be if he gets the nomination.

Obama nostalgia is not quite as strong as some people may think, namely because Obama's first term was a time of chaos and economic strife because of the Great Recession he inherited from Bush, and how a lot of his policies did nothing or very little to improve economic growth at first.

Heck, in some cases, he continued the same policies as Bush such as the large corporate bailouts and the continuation (and expansion) of the War On Terror and the Patriot Act.

While Obama's second term saw the economy recover and stabilize, it was also a time of great social unrest that saw the rise of the current SJW culture as we know it.

Honestly, the few things Obama (and by extension, Biden in 2020) can take credit for and play up with the public are taking down Bin Laden in 2011 and federal-level same-sex marriage in 2015.

If Biden plays up the Obama nostalgia as his main tactic in the general election, all the opposition has to do is bring up a wide variety of things that happened under Obama's watch, such as Edward Snowden's leaks, the Great Recession, the crisis in Libya, the drone strikes, the rise of ISIS, and Guantanamo Bay still being open to this day.

While the Great Recession started under Bush and his policies did play a major role in spurring it on, it didn't really start until the last half of his last year in office, and the worst of it happened under Obama's first term.

Again, Obama nostalgia is a valid tactic in the primaries, but it is a shaky tactic at best in a national election.
 
I keep hearing people say Biden is going to win on Obama nostalgia. Maybe I'm not remembering correctly but wasn't Obama's presidency largely defined by an incredibly shitty economy, unpopular foreign wars, and race riots?

What is there to be nostalgic about exactly?
 
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I keep hearing people say Biden is going to win on Obama nostalgia. Maybe I'm not remembering correctly but wasn't Obama's presidency largely defined by an incredibly shitty economy, unpopular foreign wars, and race riots?

What is there to be nostalgic about exactly?
Actual FTFY, but yeah, other than the novelty of being the first black President, I doubt there is much nostalgia to have with Obama.
 
I keep hearing people say Biden is going to win on Obama nostalgia. Maybe I'm not remembering correctly but wasn't Obama's presidency largely defined by an incredibly shitty economy, unpopular foreign wars, and race riots?

What is there to be nostalgic about exactly?
The Democrats appeared strong and unified with them believing they will rule America for God knows how many years. The Republicans were on the brink of dissolution and becoming extinct. Until Trump came along and ruin the Democrats master plan.
 
The Democrats appeared strong and unified with them believing they will rule America for God knows how many years. The Republicans were on the brink of dissolution and becoming extinct. Until Trump came along and ruin the Democrats master plan.
I would argue the Democrats ruined the Democrats' master plan. They had this idea that the republicans were so reviled, and their policies so uncontroversial (neither was true, BTW) that they could essentially force an unpopular candidate on the public. Then combine that candidate with an absolutely terrible campaign that reeked of "Why even bother? This is in the bag." And I would argue that any republican who wasn't Satan incarnate probably could have beaten her. Trump just happened to be the guy. Now, to his credit, his campaign did a great job at exploiting the weaknesses of Hillary's... but the point I'm making is, the Democrats did everything they could to lose that election, just because they never for a second thought they COULD lose it.
 
I keep hearing people say Biden is going to win on Obama nostalgia. Maybe I'm not remembering correctly but wasn't Obama's presidency largely defined by an incredibly shitty economy, unpopular foreign wars, and race riots?

What is there to be nostalgic about exactly?
At least in his first term the political divide on the national level wasn't as extreme as it is now.

They could try that but considering how they've spent the last 4 years stroking that fire themselves I think they'd be foolish to.
 
At least in his first term the political divide on the national level wasn't as extreme as it is now.

They could try that but considering how they've spent the last 4 years stroking that fire themselves I think they'd be foolish to.
Ehhh... backpedaling is something they do extremely well. I do recall someone saying Barack Obama wasn't ready to become president because that position "doesn't lend itself to on-the-job training."

Six months later, Obama declared that man was his running mate.
 
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