Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

[break these cuffs]

 

[Kosher Salt]

If BHBH wanted to force Monica and Ron to attend the 31 May hearing, they'd need to have served them notice by now wouldn't they?

Also, if the judge refused to grant a protective order, would that only be in respect of Ron and Monica or would that ruling apply to the depositions of the other defendants, too?

Ron and Monica get served notice through their counsel. And I'm pretty sure the judge can do whatever he wants, but I doubt that he'd grant a unilateral protective order just for Vic. But given that the defendants have strongly objected to the protective order, who knows.

 

[AnOminous]

Ron and Monica get served notice through their counsel. And I'm pretty sure the judge can do whatever he wants, but I doubt that he'd grant a unilateral protective order just for Vic. But given that the defendants have strongly objected to the protective order, who knows.

If there is such an order it will probably be either for both sides or for neither.

If the defendants insist on opposing it they have nothing to complain about no matter what comes out in the future.

 

[repentance]

If there is such an order it will probably be either for both sides or for neither.

If the defendants insist on opposing it they have nothing to complain about no matter what comes out in the future.

I should have worded that question better. If the judge denies the application for a protective order on 31st, does that mean that then mean that the other defendants will be stuck with that decision as well? It seems if Monica and Ron are effectively able to bind all of the parties - including the other defendants - to their wishes. Or is that issue something which would be revisited with each of the other defendants at the appropriate time?

Also, how much time does Casey have left in which to file a TCPA?

 

[AnOminous]

I should have worded that question better. If the judge denies the application for a protective order on 31st, does that mean that then mean that the other defendants will be stuck with that decision as well? It seems if Monica and Ron are effectively able to bind all of the parties - including the other defendants - to their wishes. Or is that issue something which would be revisited with each of the other defendants at the appropriate time?

Also, how much time does Casey have left in which to file a TCPA?

In theory, no, all parties shouldn't be bound by one decision and they should be able to file motions or do whatever to get their own ruling.

In actual practice, though, probably. Whatever the judge decides on the 31st is very likely to form and shape the subsequent proceedings. Anyone really interested should get involved before then.

 

[RodgerDodger]

The protective order will almost certainly be granted. There really is no downside to granting it. It would be viewed as "protecting" the other parties. That's the thing. The Judge is going to look strangely at anyone not wanting that order. This isn't putting a complete gag order on the case. It is seeking to protect those portions of deposition not filed with the court and public record. Who would oppose that request... and why? The only clear answer is the party wishing to continue a parade of defamation. There is no other possible explanation. And I don't think the Judge will buy into a plan that transparent. (I mean really how much more obvious and hamfisted can they get? Maybe send Casey into the courtroom twirly his Snidely Whiplash style mustache while cackling wildly?)

I'm starting to think that Casey Erick Esquire is not much of a Chess Player. Or a Poker Player?

 

[SiccDicc]

I'm starting to think that Casey Erick Esquire is not much of a Chess Player. Or a Poker Player?

I don't think he really cares about these clients of his. He's probably doing the bare minimum given the kinds of people they are and likely driving him nuts.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

I'm starting to think that Casey Erick Esquire is not much of a Chess Player. Or a Poker Player?

Casey Erick is playing Tic-Tac-Toe while The Beard is playing Nine Men's Morris.

 

[ErbBetaPatch]

Listened to this interview today. Did me an interest.

I interviewed someone who got blacklisted from animation and they told me some stuff

Corrections thus far: 1. The part about MeMow being based on Killer Queen is probably wrong. I didn't get that from my source, it was just a rumor floating a...

youtu.be

Towards the middle he mentions a me too style list of people in animation. Sounds like broken staircase. Perhaps Oddguys source has some deeper information on the inner workings of the list. Could be useful.

 

[N1bbaN3rd]

Also, how much time does Casey have left in which to file a TCPA?

The deadline is 60 days after the date of service of the original complaint, however extensions can be granted. So for MoRon, the deadline is on or around June 18.

 

[teriyakiburns]

The deadline is 60 days after the date of service of the original complaint, however extensions can be granted. So for MoRon, the deadline is on or around June 18.

The fact that he didn't immediately file it speaks volumes for his or his clients' motivations.
But that's stating the obvious.

 

[Slab Bulkhead]

The fact that he didn't immediately file it speaks volumes for his or his clients' motivations.
But that's stating the obvious.

Well the delay of the TCPA is less about his clients motivations, and more his own motivations. I see one of two reasons for filing the TCPA later in the deadline:

One: Casey doesn't think he has a strong case and thinks the longer he can drag this out the better since that just gives more opportunity to find a smoking gun they so desperately need. Or-

Two: Casey thinks somehow this is a slam dunk (either MoRon have not been honest to him, or he actually does have that smoking gun) and he's delaying filing the TCPA he ends up making more money off the case. After all, filing and winning a TCPA doesn't just end the case, in the situation that a TCPA wins, they can potentially shoulder all legal costs on Vic, meaning MoRon/jamie/Funi would be out nothing. So he gets a bigger paycheck, and his clients are out nothing. Win/Win for everyone not Vic in this situation.

 

[N1bbaN3rd]

Well the delay of the TCPA is less about his clients motivations, and more his own motivations. I see one of two reasons for filing the TCPA later in the deadline:

One: Casey doesn't think he has a strong case and thinks the longer he can drag this out the better since that just gives more opportunity to find a smoking gun they so desperately need. Or-

Two: Casey thinks somehow this is a slam dunk (either MoRon have not been honest to him, or he actually does have that smoking gun) and he's delaying filing the TCPA he ends up making more money off the case. After all, filing and winning a TCPA doesn't just end the case, in the situation that a TCPA wins, they can potentially shoulder all legal costs on Vic, meaning MoRon/jamie/Funi would be out nothing. So he gets a bigger paycheck, and his clients are out nothing. Win/Win for everyone not Vic in this situation.

I'm more inclined to agree with the first of those two scenarios. Somebody with a strong case does not file a complete trash fire of a response.
Regardless of his strategy, he is absolutely dragging the suit out to get more of dem billable hours.

 

[Slab Bulkhead]

I'm more inclined to agree with the first of those two scenarios. Somebody with a strong case does not file a complete trash fire of a response.
Regardless of his strategy, he is absolutely dragging the suit out to get more of dem billable hours.

Oh I completely agree, but there's also the possibility that Casey is just as dumb as his clients and thinks he has it in the bag either because he's that arrogant for being a 'super lawyer' or because his clients potentially lying to him about evidence and are pulling the same "It's true, believe us, we'll bring it in soon, I promise " BS that they are on twitter.

 

[GethN7]

Oh I completely agree, but there's also the possibility that Casey is just as dumb as his clients and thinks he has it in the bag either because he's that arrogant for being a 'super lawyer' or because his clients potentially lying to him about evidence and are pulling the same "It's true, believe us, we'll bring it in soon, I promise " BS that they are on twitter.

Or could be a bit of Column A, bit of Column B, which seems the most plausible given both the clients and lawyer come off as fools.

 

[AlexJonesGotMePregnant]

Or could be a bit of Column A, bit of Column B, which seems the most plausible given both the clients and lawyer come off as fools.

Casey doesn't need to worry about his reputation; he's looking out for his wallet which will walk away from this heavier while monica and ron get screwed by their own stupidity. casey seems a little too high profile to be stupid enough to just believe his clients, even shitty lawyers spend a lot of their time navigating other people's lies.

 

[AnOminous]

Casey doesn't need to worry about his reputation

Lol that's where he's wrong. Because his reputation is now that he's the guy who did this, forever.

Unless this case turns out legendary in how wrong a plaintiff could be and he becomes the hero, he's the lawyer who did this. Anyone who looks him up, forever, is going to see that he's the lawyer who did this.

Would you hire this guy, sight unseen, if you got bit by a dog?

I'd hope the other guy got this guy.

 

[AStupidMonkey]

Lol that's where he's wrong. Because his reputation is now that he's the guy who did this, forever.

Unless this case turns out legendary in how wrong a plaintiff could be and he becomes the hero, he's the lawyer who did this. Anyone who looks him up, forever, is going to see that he's the lawyer who did this.

Would you hire this guy, sight unseen, if you got bit by a dog?

I'd hope the other guy got this guy.

I doubt it'll put him out of (much) work. How many of us know our attorneys' entire case history? And anyways, I have no horse in the "let's ruin Casey Erick" race.

Similarly, I don't really care if we don't get all the juicy doxey details on Vic's anonymous accusers because of the TCPA protective order. (Correct me if I'm wrong: the only stuff covered by that would be, like, incidental nobodies on the internet and the occasional blowjob story, right?) It seems like all the important info will come out one way or another. Even if it's just Ty an anonymous source accidentally misfiling a few folders in Nick's mail slot.

I don't speak for KF, but I can take or leave whatever petty details we might miss out on just to see a guilty verdict. And I'm really hoping Ty doesn't let them off the hook after all these chickenshit gambits. (Buuut I also understand that's just how these things fizzle out, sometimes.)

EDIT: brainfart, protective order, not TCPA.

 

[Slab Bulkhead]

I doubt it'll put him out of (much) work. How many of us know our attorneys' entire case history? And anyways, I have no horse in the "let's ruin Casey Erick" race.

Similarly, I don't really care if we don't get all the juicy doxey details on Vic's anonymous accusers because of the TCPA. (Correct me if I'm wrong: the only stuff covered by that would be, like, incidental nobodies on the internet and the occasional blowjob story, right?) It seems like all the important info will come out one way or another. Even if it's just Ty an anonymous source accidentally misfiling a few folders in Nick's mail slot.

I don't speak for KF, but I can take or leave whatever petty details we might miss out on just to see a guilty verdict. And I'm really hoping Ty doesn't let them off the hook after all these chickenshit gambits. (Buuut I also understand that's just how these things fizzle out, sometimes.)

The TCPA doesn't protect/hide anything. You're thinking of the filing for privacy thing. And all that does is ensure that things asked during the deposition that are irrelevant to the case are not spread to the public. Basically things that are found to be useless as evidence by either side. The name of the accuser however, if they do indeed exist, would be relevant and I imagine the identity if nothing else will come out.

 

[Mrtrollenski]

Lol that's where he's wrong. Because his reputation is now that he's the guy who did this, forever.

Unless this case turns out legendary in how wrong a plaintiff could be and he becomes the hero, he's the lawyer who did this. Anyone who looks him up, forever, is going to see that he's the lawyer who did this.

Would you hire this guy, sight unseen, if you got bit by a dog?

I'd hope the other guy got this guy.

Unlike Ty he is not advertising hard to the anime community at large to try and expand his practice. If somewhere where to google his name and find this thread, its 82 pages right now and our bias is pretty clear. In any case, a lawyers job is to represent their client, he's doing so.

a future client could ask,

"Why did you make a ridiculous filing that cited tumblr and a site with liar in its name?"

"While I obviously have to take into consideration confidentiality here, let me just say my job is to represent whoever hires me. If they demand I take a course of action after I've strongly advised them against it, I have to represent their wishes. If I told you citing tumblr and people who declare themselves as liars in a filing was a really bad idea would you take my council?"

"obviously"

"then lets move on..."

it is that simple. I can't imagine how many drafts of that thing where sent back and forth until literally right after the deadline. Casey is probably getting those billing hours up as high as possible because these people are nutters with a wallet. As Nick R. keeps saying, that entire facts section thats full of sperg is unneeded and will most likely just get struck anyways.