Militant Vegans - MEAT IS MURDER, YOU BLOODMOUTHS

There’s actually a lot of disadvantages, a number of the fats in it aren’t easily soluble (and your body does need fats) and getting enough iron is extremely difficult. Plus most iron additives/pill forms aren’t vegan either.
Plus there are plenty of vitamins and other good stuff that are eather missing or hard come by in plant material. Most know being B12 witch is vital for health and can’t be obtained from plants. Clinical deficiency can cause anaemia or nervous system damage. Infants typically show more rapid onset of symptoms than adults. In infants B12 deficiency may lead to loss of energy and appetite and failure to thrive. If not promptly corrected this can progress to coma or death.

Vegan B12 is from micro-organisms witch I guess is vegan? I have never really understood where the line animal and not animal goes in these. It’s absolutely unavoidable not eat micro-organims so fair enough. Nutritional yeast is pretty much a staple of vegan diet so it’s not like B12 supplements is that special.

Also plan based iron doesn’t work for everyone. Some people can’t digest it. My sister who gives blood regularly once got vegan iron pills instead of the regular ones (they had run out). Those upset her stomach pretty badly.
 
Periodic reminder that PETA murders stolen pets, taken from the HuffPost to prove that this isn't some right-wing conspiracy

They've also supported nationwide measures to euthanize any pit bull or pit mix that comes into a shelter, and I know some here will agree with that, but as someone who actually volunteers at a no-kill shelter that includes plenty of pitties they can go fuck themselves.

I don't give a flying fuck if people decide to be vegan. I have vegan friends, if it's just the two of us I don't have an issue with eating vegan around them. But people who try to make their pets vegan piss me the fuck off.
 
Periodic reminder that PETA murders stolen pets, taken from the HuffPost to prove that this isn't some right-wing conspiracy

They've also supported nationwide measures to euthanize any pit bull or pit mix that comes into a shelter, and I know some here will agree with that, but as someone who actually volunteers at a no-kill shelter that includes plenty of pitties they can go fuck themselves.

I don't give a flying fuck if people decide to be vegan. I have vegan friends, if it's just the two of us I don't have an issue with eating vegan around them. But people who try to make their pets vegan piss me the fuck off.
if peta employees were to ever come to my house and try to kill my pet dog or cat, youre gonna end up with dead peta employees
 
if peta employees were to ever come to my house and try to kill my pet dog or cat, youre gonna end up with dead peta employees

This is why I don't let my dog be unattended. And every time I see a sign for a lost pet I wonder if they were stolen by some PETA nutcase. I can't understand how they have the audacity to be so hypocritical. They want to kill your dog but at the same time they will paint themselves red and lay in the street pretending to be meat because meat is murder.

They attract all the unstable fringes of the vegan movement. They should be seen as domestic terrorists because ALF is. It's just that PETA is more into stealing your dog off your porch than breaking into labs and destroying them while freeing the monkeys.

No one should trust PETA. I don't think enough people know what they are really all about. They should be banned from possessing animals.

Well they better not hang around these yards anyway. There are a of cops living in this neighborhood.
 
Most people who care to learn about the charities they wish to donate to avoid Peta, even for the simple reason that your money will go to some expensive and exploitative ad campaign which will 99% of the time just say you'd become hot if you were vegan or imagine if a woman were a piece of meat (in an ad that ironically makes the woman the figurative version of a piece of meat).
They've pissed off people who care about pets (they kill most of their strays), people who actually want to see change (again, Peta spends more on shitty ads than actual animal welfare), people who aren't against animal testing for science, people who are against it (the CEO uses insulin which was created by testing on dogs while claiming she'd reject a cure for cancer if it came through animal testing, the hypocritical bitch), Canada (they made a fake video claiming that Canada officially legally clubs baby seals by literally hiring a guy to take a crowbar to a FUCKING BABY SEAL because inuits still hunt seals and due to overfishing we are reducing seal populations to balance out the ecosystem through their hunting while also stopping fishing in certain areas. Also cause seals are a good, sustainable source of meat and hide), environmentalists (the products they push harm the environment as much, if not more, than real leather for example), anti corporates (Peta is in the pocket of many shitty companies that just claim to like animals), free marketers (Peta is trying to police companies doing perfectly legal shit), mental health advocates (made false claims that autism is caused by cow's milk), etc etc
There is so much out there about them and they really make my blood boil because their money could go to real and good organizations. On a side note, Peta has been threatened and is on the cusp of being labeled a terrorist organization in Canada. I hope they fuck up more so it finally happens
 
What does being a Canadian terrorist organization mean? Would they actually ban it?
 
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What doesbbeing a Canadian terrorist organization mean? Would they actually ban it?
"It is not a crime to be listed. However, one of the consequences of being listed is that the entity's property can be the subject of seizure/restraint and/or forfeiture. In addition, institutions such as banks, brokerages, etc. are subject to reporting requirements with respect to an entity's property and must not allow those entities to access the property. These institutions may not deal or otherwise dispose of the property. It is an offence to knowingly participate in or contribute to, directly or indirectly, any activity of a terrorist group. This participation is only an offence if its purpose is to enhance the ability of any terrorist group to facilitate or carry out a terrorist activity."
As far as I understand, this would hit their wallets more than anything which is the biggest blow to them possible. Sure I doubt they get much from our small population, but it's potentially something. Plus I presume it would likely push the US towards considering them as a terrorist group again (it seems the FBI considered it at one point).
The previous government of Canada pretty much ignored any non-islamic terrorism for the sake of their voter base but the new government is hopefully more open to considering an organization that donates to a known terrorist group to be terrorist themselves. I mean, if they donated to a radicalized religious group who is known to bomb and commit arson they'd have been tagged years ago.
Granted, I don't think this will happen cause they're such a big company at this point but one can dream of a world without pet snatchers and 97% kill shelters
Edit: forgot to upload the FBI file
 

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Just thought I'd drop in to show a story of a malnourished baby owned by vegans.
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A judge has lashed out at one half of a Sydney vegan couple who had their three children taken away from them after police found their 20-month-old girl was severely malnourished and suffering from rickets face five years in jail.
The Downing Centre Court in Sydney has heard a powerful victim impact statement from the baby’s foster carer, who took the toddler in after she had been taken out of her parents’ care.
She said the 20-month-old weighed just 4.89kg, looked like a three-month-old and had no teeth when she started caring for her in August 2018.
“I remember thinking, ‘how terrifying’,” she said in the statement.
She said the baby was “so behind other children” and couldn’t perform basic actions like rolling over.
She said the baby is now “traumatised” by the monthly and bimonthly blood tests she must undergo.
“She begins to scream and cry if she goes into a medical room and the door is closed,” she said in the statement.
She said the baby’s weight had become disproportionate to her height, meaning she had become “technically obese”.
She said strangers ask how old she is upon seeing her because they would be “struck” by she how small she was.


In court today, Judge Sarah Huggett hit out at a suggestion the toddler’s father was “powerless” in preventing his daughter from falling ill.
The solicitor for the toddler’s father said his client was neither vegan or anti-vax.
He said the mother, who had previously worked in child care, “dictated” the household, and claimed his client was the sole provider and would do all the driving, shopping, cooking and cleaning.
He said the relationship between the parents had broken down over suspicions of an affair, but the only time their youngest child fell seriously ill, the father called triple-0.
However, Judge Huggett hit out at the defence, saying the father is an “educated man” who should have known something was wrong.
“She wasn’t walking or talking, she wasn’t hitting milestones” she said.
“He did nothing. He could have picked her up and taken her to a doctor.
“He is older than the mother and could have just as easily have done something.
“I do not accept that he was powerless.”
The father’s lawyer said his client is now living in Queensland and has been subject to an “vegan and anti-vax witch hunt” in the press.

Police allege the father, 34 and mother, 32, — who cannot be named for legal reasons — fed their 20-month-old girl a strict diet “severely lacking in nutrients for her to thrive”.
The parents first faced court in May last year, two months after their toddler suffered a seizure at home. They both pleaded guilty to failing to provide for a child and causing serious injury.
After her seizure, the sick toddler spent a month in hospital where doctors and nurses frantically worked to give her the nourishment she needed.
Within just six months, the girl put on 6kg and was able to crawl and stand on her own.
The baby’s mother’s lawyer said medical reports show her client was suffering from depression.
He said she left hospital just three and a half hours after the child’s birth, didn’t register the birth or its Medicare or have the baby immunised.
He said his client would lay awake in bed at night wondering whether her partner was cheating on her with a work colleague and whether she was a “useless” mother.
He said she wasn’t returning calls from the baby’s GP and she was stressed about her living arrangement in rented accommodation.
He said she would spend all day in her pyjamas and couldn’t face even going shopping for groceries.
However, psychologist Dr Yvonne Skinner told the court today there was no evidence, based on medical records and her interview with the baby’s mother, that the accused was suffering from depression over the 19 months.
She said this was because it was clear she had developed a bond with her child and said she was enjoying hugging the child, breastfeeding her and buying her clothes.
She added that tests five months before the child was born, showed there was very little risk of post natal depression.
Court documents show the toddler’s mother told doctors her daughter would generally have one cup of oats with rice milk and half a banana in the morning, and a piece of toast with jam or peanut butter for lunch.
For dinner, she said her daughter would be offered tofu, rice or potatoes. But she said the girl was a “fussy eater” so she might just have oats again.
This diet resulted in severe deficiencies in nutrients across the board for the infant, including a lack of calcium, phosphate, vitamin B12, vitamin A, iron and zinc.
Her levels of vitamin D — which can cause bone disease if found to be too low — were “undetectable”.
Rickets is a preventable bone disease that affects babies and young children and causes soft and weakened bones. Children are typically diagnosed with rickets due to a lack of vitamin D, calcium or phosphorus.
The girl’s condition was only brought to the attention of doctors in March last year, when doctors attended to the infant after she suffered a seizure.
She was just over a year old, but weighed only 4.9kg — which is barely double of what she weighed when she was a newborn.
One doctor described her as “floppy” and said the tiny one-and-a-half-year-old didn’t crawl or talk during the month in care, according to court documents.
In an investigation into the girl’s medical history, doctors found an absence of immunisations, no follow-up check-ups after she was born and no birth certificate or Medicare number.
The toddler’s two older brothers, aged six and four, are also in government care and were also on vegan diets.
 
Just thought I'd drop in to show a story of a malnourished baby owned by vegans.
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I can feel sorry for the mom if she actually has PPD but in the end that doesn't matter cause the child nearly died. Also considering the vitamin B12 deficiency it's possible the mom didn't even know you can't get it without animal products and is something all vegans must supplement for so her other kids must be missing it as well.
 
Not as bad as PETA t.ards, but still ridiculous in context. Found this in a gastric bypass group. For those that don’t know, you have to have 60-80+ grams of protein and 100-120+ grams protein per day after surgery to not waste away. This is constantly stressed in nutrition classes. Therefore meat and shake consumption are highly encouraged, the latter especially in the earliest stages where you can only drink liquids. In fact, if you go to food diary threads in WLS forums, meat and dairy reign supreme because they’re complete sources for the lowest portion sizes. Not that you can’t go vegan but it’s even more difficult after WLS than the average Joe due to restriction. The idea of relying on apples for protein is laughable.

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Found this in a gastric bypass group. For those that don’t know, you have to have 60-80+ grams of protein and 100-120+ grams protein per day after surgery to not waste away. This is constantly stressed in nutrition classes. Therefore meat and shake consumption are highly encouraged, the latter especially in the earliest stages where you can only drink liquids.
Wait wait wait: If those people can take nutrition classes and drink special shakes, why don't they just go on a diet in the first place instead of something decadent like a "weight loss surgery"?
 
Wait wait wait: If those people can take nutrition classes and drink special shakes, why don't they just go on a diet in the first place instead of something decadent like a "weight loss surgery"?

WLS is basically a last resort to treating food addiction. Most doctors won't take you in without you presenting a list of diets that you've tried and failed. It's also often the best method to keeping weight or most of the weight off for people that do it. Regain is still a thing (10 or so pounds is common) but you have to really fuck up to gain 100+ pounds back after surgery. You can go on a diet and lose weight, yes, but it's very easy to regain it because your stomach is still the same size and the whatnot. WLS isn't a cure all but rather another tool to help with the neverending weight loss battle. For a lot of patients it's the tool they need to really get the ball rolling and stay there.
 
WLS is basically a last resort to treating food addiction. Most doctors won't take you in without you presenting a list of diets that you've tried and failed. It's also often the best method to keeping weight or most of the weight off for people that do it. Regain is still a thing (10 or so pounds is common) but you have to really fuck up to gain 100+ pounds back after surgery. You can go on a diet and lose weight, yes, but it's very easy to regain it because your stomach is still the same size and the whatnot. WLS isn't a cure all but rather another tool to help with the neverending weight loss battle. For a lot of patients it's the tool they need to really get the ball rolling and stay there.
So why don't they just eat less?
 
So why don't they just eat less?
That works short term, but not in the long run. As I said, WLS patients are often on diets constantly only to regain and more. They're also food addicts so "just eating less" is like telling a depressed person to stop being depressed or an alcoholic to stop drinking. They can't control it long term, if at all. They need help. WLS's intent is to help nip that in the bud. It's a true last resort and you have to do all sort of tests and classes (including therapy) to help prevent total regain. Then once the weight is off you have to watch what you eat for life, like how an alcoholic has to make sure they don't drink for the rest of their lives. WLS helps by killing hunger for most patients to the point that they just want to eat less, if at all. It's harder with the stomach they have pre-op. If they could lose the weight and keep it off on their own, they would've done it. A lot of patients will admit that. This isn't something that you can just go "lol why not" for the shits and giggles.

To keep this on topic, my dog is like a friend to me and I'd lose my shit if PETA tried to kidnap and kill her. Seeing her grow as a doggie after adopting her is the total opposite of the slavery bullshit those dumbasses believe pet ownership is.
 
That works short term, but not in the long run. As I said, WLS patients are often on diets constantly only to regain and more. They're also food addicts so "just eating less" is like telling a depressed person to stop being depressed or an alcoholic to stop drinking. They can't control it long term, if at all. They need help. WLS's intent is to help nip that in the bud. It's a true last resort and you have to do all sort of tests and classes (including therapy) to help prevent total regain. Then once the weight is off you have to watch what you eat for life, like how an alcoholic has to make sure they don't drink for the rest of their lives. WLS helps by killing hunger for most patients to the point that they just want to eat less, if at all. It's harder with the stomach they have pre-op. If they could lose the weight and keep it off on their own, they would've done it. A lot of patients will admit that. This isn't something that you can just go "lol why not" for the shits and giggles.
Sounds like the fatsos are just lazy and decadent.
 
That works short term, but not in the long run. As I said, WLS patients are often on diets constantly only to regain and more. They're also food addicts so "just eating less" is like telling a depressed person to stop being depressed or an alcoholic to stop drinking. They can't control it long term, if at all. They need help. WLS's intent is to help nip that in the bud. It's a true last resort and you have to do all sort of tests and classes (including therapy) to help prevent total regain. Then once the weight is off you have to watch what you eat for life, like how an alcoholic has to make sure they don't drink for the rest of their lives. WLS helps by killing hunger for most patients to the point that they just want to eat less, if at all. It's harder with the stomach they have pre-op. If they could lose the weight and keep it off on their own, they would've done it. A lot of patients will admit that. This isn't something that you can just go "lol why not" for the shits and giggles.

To keep this on topic, my dog is like a friend to me and I'd lose my shit if PETA tried to kidnap and kill her. Seeing her grow as a doggie after adopting her is the total opposite of the slavery bullshit those dumbasses believe pet ownership is.
I know a guy who had some sort of stomach surgery (because of ulcers that wouldn't heal leading to him ending up in the ER from internal bleeding), and he mentioned how he needs to eat far smaller meals than he used to, but eats more of them to keep healthy as he didn't have weight problems beforehand.

Then again that guy was cursed by witches when it came to health, both kidneys totally failed, a hernia after the kidney transplant, the ulcers, testicular cancer, and finally the old kidneys begin to fall apart and cause internal bleeding again (normally they don't remove the kidneys because of all the blood vessels involved). So yeah, cursed by witches.
 
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