Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

[Crunchy Leaf]

Oh man, I didn't know the daughter was adopted. At least she's Asian so she doesn't look super out of place.

They use Confettiskin as a username on various platforms.

I just found this post by the mom from 2011 and I am positive it's about her husband. Unfortunately, while it's a nine page thread, the rest of it seems to be just general trans discussion and not about her relationship, so I would love someone who knows more about the troon saga to fill us in.

 

[ricecake]

I would absolutely love a thread on this trainwreck, or at least a nudge in the right direction so I can peek in on the insanity.

AFAIK, she doesn't have much of a social media presence other than (apparently prolific) use of fora. No Insta, YT, etc. I don't know how much of a cow that makes her; she certainly airs her dirty laundry for the world but tries to do it semi-anonymously/discretely.

Unfortunately I got kicked off the forum where she made the posts about her husband (for shit talking Canadians, lel) and it's private and their CAPTCHA has been broken for like two years so no new registration.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

The transgender child has been struggling with mental illness since he was six . Lots and lots of issues. The mom said 'I have doubts that this child will make it past age 16 without a suicide attempt.'...in 2016.

Found the details:

I feel like my situation is a bit more messed up than your average Tinder or OKC find. My wife transitioned a bit over 4 years ago. Last year, she started sneaking around on me, hooking up with men. I found out in October. I've basically had no relationship since then, so almost a year. I'm not in a position to go through with a divorce because we have 3 properties that we have to sell, and right now there are tenants in all of them. Plus, financially I'm in a lot better shape if I stay married. Also, I have 4 kids, 3 handicapped and one of whom has severe anxiety. I'm pretty much unable to work because she has a homebound school schedule and at least one doctor appointment a week. When she does go to school, I'm often there dealing with panic attacks before the day is half over. Plus, geeky athiest living in a Southern town. Wife is home on weekends, but the rest of the time I'm basically a single parent. I really don't know where to go from here. I want to move on, but the realities of my situation make that hard. In the meantime, I know full well that the wife is dating sporadically.

I feel a little bad for posting it since she's not really an actual cow. Only a little, though.
edit: I found a post that's way more detailed and the troon started escorting too, not just hooking up.

She told me that she didn't want to live the rest of her life feeling that the kids and I were only an obligation to her.

also, they had been together since they were 17 and the real woman became a stay at home mom to look after the disabled kids that were disabled because of the troon husband

 

[Mrs Paul]

Better an adopted kid than passing on those genes.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

The transgender child has been struggling with mental illness since he was six . Lots and lots of issues. The mom said 'I have doubts that this child will make it past age 16 without a suicide attempt.'...in 2016.

Found the details:


I feel a little bad for posting it since she's not really an actual cow. Only a little, though.
edit: I found a post that's way more detailed and the troon started escorting too, not just hooking up.

also, they had been together since they were 17 and the real woman became a stay at home mom to look after the disabled kids that were disabled because of the troon husband

How the fuck does a Troon with peeling skin escort or date?

The thing about this couple was they did hide their identities online, post under pseudonyms and blurred faces in many photos. They knew they’d catch flack for purposely having kids with the disease. I didn’t even know about the Troon stuff so that adds another layer to the shit show.

The only reason I even knew about them were posts on icthyosis blog were they posted stuff about themselves and having kids. They used fake first names only but since one was president of the association it was possible to figure out who they were. Been a few years since I came across it though, just remember being appalled they had kids with the condition when it could have been avoided. The posts about what the kids endured daily to survive was sad and gross.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

I wonder if that's why they deleted their blog?

On the other forum (as it turns out, both ricecake and I were referring to the same one), she used real names and had unblurred photos.

I discovered through the wayback machine that the troon wanted a Rainbow Dash cake for his birthday in 2014. Of course.

Do icthyosis people generally frown on having kids? I don't know a lot about the community.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

I wonder if that's why they deleted their blog?

On the other forum (as it turns out, both ricecake and I were referring to the same one), she used real names and had unblurred photos.

I discovered through the wayback machine that the troon wanted a Rainbow Dash cake for his birthday in 2014. Of course.

Do icthyosis people generally frown on having kids? I don't know a lot about the community.

I like to think that if you know something awful like this runs in your family and your offspring have a high chance of inheriting it, you decide not to risk it and have to live with someone who needs hours of daily care for the entirety of their blessedly short lives.

But then again, we have Lola Hartley.

I also was watching a documentary a while back where this deadbeat couple produced and abandoned FOUR children with cystic fibrosis over a span of like a decade.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

I wonder if that's why they deleted their blog?

On the other forum (as it turns out, both ricecake and I were referring to the same one), she used real names and had unblurred photos.

I discovered through the wayback machine that the troon wanted a Rainbow Dash cake for his birthday in 2014. Of course.

Do icthyosis people generally frown on having kids? I don't know a lot about the community.

There are different levels of severity to the disease. But I’d say just finding a partner would be difficult for someone with such a horrible skin condition. People with psoriasis bitch about dating ffs and that’s nothing compared to icthyosis. I’m thinking children arent usually a worry, finding a partner and just daily care and survival are the priorities. They stood out for having the disease and passing it on to kids.

Most people that have children with icthyosis were recessive carriers and had no idea they carried the gene. The children suffering from the condition were a total shock. I’ve not encountered a lot of people with the disease having kids, but I’ve not dug that deep into the population.

I like to think that if you know something awful like this runs in your family and your offspring have a high chance of inheriting it, you decide not to risk it and have to live with someone who needs hours of daily care for the entirety of their blessedly short lives.

But then again, we have Lola Hartley.

I also was watching a documentary a while back where this deadbeat couple produced and abandoned FOUR children with cystic fibrosis over a span of like a decade.

What awful ppl. It reminds me of Hotwheels who helped run 8chan with Null years ago.

Hotwheels has brittle bone disease, which is why he’s in a wheelchair and life is so difficult. His mother had the condition and knowingly passed it on to her kid. Hot wheels wrote a essay about how he should have never been born and the circumstances of his birth and life.

Hotwheels: Why I Support Eugenics

Fredrick Brennan Daily Stormer December 30, 2014 I am a disabled supporter of eugenics, and...

dailystormer.name

All I can say is Hotwheels proves to me how weird exceptions do occur. His parents sound like white trash scum but somehow Fredrick is a whip smart and productive despite everything that was against him. However his condition is so ungodly painful I can totally understand his argument that no one should have to suffer it and it should be wiped out, via eugenics. His POV mean x100000 more than any one else’s since he’s living with it.

But my main issue isn’t with physical disabilities. As Hotwheels proves if your mind is sharp you can lead the life you want within constraints. It’s the severe intellectual disabilities that I feel are more troubling, you have a person with no ability to make decisions about their life or care. Permanent infants/ children, people at the total mercy of the whims of the society or the family they are born into forever.

 

[John Merston]

Yeah, they told us that, too. They straight up told us the printed effectiveness of condoms was a lie to get people to buy them and that they failed, like, half the time when used correctly and that almost nobody did so it was much higher than that. Needless to say they didn't bother to mention other methods of birth control either.

I remember reading a book by Rush Limbaugh and he gave a more conservative (heh) estimate of 20% failure rate. Of course, he still treated it as a big fucking deal, comparing it to getting on a plane with a 20% chance of crashing.

 

[AnOminous]

I remember reading a book by Rush Limbaugh and he gave a more conservative (heh) estimate of 20% failure rate. Of course, he still treated it as a big fucking deal, comparing it to getting on a plane with a 20% chance of crashing.

If you're married and have sex at a normal rate, even a 1% failure rate means you're much more likely than not to encounter a failure.

 

[Mrs Paul]

Well, Limbaugh's never struck me as the sharpest knife in the drawer.

(I think Limbaugh resorts to the "Little Blue Pill", so there's definitely SOMETHING failing)

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

This is the documentary I was talking about with the CF parents. It's actually about a woman who adopted a whole bunch of disabled and terminally ill children as well as raising her own normie kids. Her one kid Joe was the product of a deadbeat couple who made nine kids, several with CF, none of whom lived with them.

He also had serious emotional issues. He tried to maintain a relationship with them and held this fantasy that they were going to take him back one day even though they never had custody and didn't reenter his life until he was 12. Then about halfway through the filming they abruptly moved away without giving him any time to understand what was happening. He ended up dying a few weeks later.

 

[GenociderSyo]

This is the documentary I was talking about with the CF parents. It's actually about a woman who adopted a whole bunch of disabled and terminally ill children as well as raising her own normie kids. Her one kid Joe was the product of a deadbeat couple who made nine kids, several with CF, none of whom lived with them.

He also had serious emotional issues. He tried to maintain a relationship with them and held this fantasy that they were going to take him back one day even though they never had custody and didn't reenter his life until he was 12. Then about halfway through the filming they abruptly moved away without giving him any time to understand what was happening. He ended up dying a few weeks later.

That woman tried so much to get services to realize that the mother and if i remember right the boyfriend was someone new were hurting that kid more then helping, but they never seemed to care. His behavior problems I think they said stemmed from reactive attachment disorder.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

That woman tried so much to get services to realize that the mother and if i remember right the boyfriend was someone new were hurting that kid more then helping, but they never seemed to care. His behavior problems I think they said stemmed from reactive attachment disorder.

Yeah I got no beef with the adoptive mom. She bent over backwards to help that kid, gave him his own space in the house to blow off steam, got the relief carer to play "good cop" so he didn't feel like everyone was ganging up on him and so the other kids didn't feel like he was holding them hostage/to keep them safe from him, and alerted CPS to the fact that the birth parents were making shit worse.

I tracked down some of the kids a while back and they seem to be happy productive members of society.

 

[Crimewatcher 44]

Hotwheels has brittle bone disease, which is why he’s in a wheelchair and life is so difficult. His mother had the condition and knowingly passed it on to her kid. Hot wheels wrote a essay about how he should have never been born and the circumstances of his birth and life.

Hotwheels: Why I Support Eugenics

Fredrick Brennan Daily Stormer December 30, 2014 I am a disabled supporter of eugenics, and...

dailystormer.name

All I can say is Hotwheels proves to me how weird exceptions do occur. His parents sound like white trash scum but somehow Fredrick is a whip smart and productive despite everything that was against him. However, his condition is so ungodly painful I can totally understand his argument that no one should have to suffer it and it should be wiped out, via eugenics. His POV mean x100000 more than anyone else’s since he’s living with it.

I know power leveling is frowned upon here, but I have the same condition, and my heart breaks for him. Yes, broken bones are painful, but they aren't constant normally, and you can have a wonderful life with good medical care and support. It sounds like he has shitty parents, shitty medical care, little to no support, and needs some therapy to deal with his circumstances. My life is full, productive, and joyous. His could be too.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

I know power leveling is frowned upon here, but I have the same condition, and my heart breaks for him. Yes, broken bones are painful, but they aren't constant normally, and you can have a wonderful life with good medical care and support. It sounds like he has shitty parents, shitty medical care, little to no support, and needs some therapy to deal with his circumstances. My life is full, productive, and joyous. His could be too.

could it be that he has a more severe form than you do?
i agree that his circumstances other than the condition are a large part of his issues though

 

[Crimewatcher 44]

could it be that he has a more severe form than you do?
i agree that his circumstances other than the condition are a large part of his issues though

It's possible, but I doubt it. He has the same short stature and facial features I do that are indicative of OI type 3, and while there are some variations in severity, there aren't many. Most with type 3 have it less severely than I do. For example, my son is 5 inches taller than me, has fewer mobility issues, and has had less than 30 broken bones whereas I've had 500+ broken bones.

Spoiler

I was told I couldn't get pregnant. When I did, my husband and I were shocked and terrified. We didn't find out our son had it until I was 5 months along and because I had a great life, we chose to keep him. Maybe it was selfish on our part, but he's a happy, healthy 25-year-old business owner who is happy to be alive.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

I know power leveling is frowned upon here, but I have the same condition, and my heart breaks for him. Yes, broken bones are painful, but they aren't constant normally, and you can have a wonderful life with good medical care and support. It sounds like he has shitty parents, shitty medical care, little to no support, and needs some therapy to deal with his circumstances. My life is full, productive, and joyous. His could be too.

If you read the article Hotwheels has a very productive life and specifically addresses that issue:

People who would use my relative success to argue against eugenics are very short-sighted. Other programmers who are provably much better than I were not born cripples, so preventing the birth of cripples will not cause there to be less programmers.

Others would simply dismiss this piece as the product of self-hate. However, those people are simply uneducated and do not know the meaning of the word “eugenics” and falsely equate it to German death camps. These uneducated people think that eugenics is a call to exterminate the disabled, but that is completely false and would not fix matters because of recessive genes and evasion by families.

Genetics used to be a lottery, but we know exactly how to stop a large amount of suffering in the world by preventing children with inheritable genetic conditions from being born using completely humane methods.

Fredrick’s little brother also has the condition.

(Another article about Fredrick trying to navigate life in NYC)

 

[Crimewatcher 44]

@MirnaMinkoff
I did read his article. In fact, I read it twice to be sure I understood what his intent was. I am well educated on eugenics. I am not disagreeing with him about eugenics, nor am I disagreeing with him about multigenerational families being a problem. My husband and I chose not to have another child after our son was born because we didn't think it was fair to the "child to be" or to our son who needed our undivided attention while dealing with broken bones and surgeries. If I had not been misinformed by a doctor that I was infertile, we wouldn't have had children at all.

In the article, he says he is successful, but not that he is happy. Being successful doesn't mean you are happy. That's what my original post was about. He sounds unhappy. Maybe I'm wrong and he is happy and fulfilled. It just didn't sound like it to me.

I hadn't read about his brother. What happened to him is awful. I'm glad police caught the thief and that they are helping him where they can. He should have a personal assistant, but I guess his insurance doesn't cover it. I'm sad for him too.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

@MirnaMinkoff
I did read his article. In fact, I read it twice to be sure I understood what his intent was. I am well educated on eugenics. I am not disagreeing with him about eugenics, nor am I disagreeing with him about multigenerational families being a problem. My husband and I chose not to have another child after our son was born because we didn't think it was fair to the "child to be" or to our son who needed our undivided attention while dealing with broken bones and surgeries. If I had not been misinformed by a doctor that I was infertile, we wouldn't have had children at all.

In the article, he says he is successful, but not that he is happy. Being successful doesn't mean you are happy. That's what my original post was about. He sounds unhappy. Maybe I'm wrong and he is happy and fulfilled. It just didn't sound like it to me.

I hadn't read about his brother. What happened to him is awful. I'm glad police caught the thief and that they are helping him where they can. He should have a personal assistant, but I guess his insurance doesn't cover it. I'm sad for him too.

I don’t feel comfortable determining if anyone is happy just from what I see online, it’s a very relative thing.

But Hotwheels certainly managed to build a life for himself, which is about as good as it gets for most adults. I think not having female companionship, and being a virgin, was an issue years ago that made him unhappy, but moving to the Philippines allowed him to afford prostitutes and I would assume assistants to help him with daily life. Maybe he’s even found a girlfriend idk, but I hope so.

Spoiler

I’m not casting any aspersions on you. I’m glad you’ve found a way to lead a happy life with your condition. If your son is 25 there wasn’t early genetic testing readily available to try and avoid passing it along to a child. Fredrick was certainly writing that essay to address what’s available now thanks to science.

However one of his quibbles was his mother had multiple children, some with the condition, some without. She was never really able to care for any of them but kept having them anyway. The govt provides money and benefits for such children. In loving household that cares for a disabled child properly the additional money probably doesn’t even cover all that’s needed, but for a parent who doesn’t give a shit it’s a gravy train.

Basically for a certain type of person the govt is incentivizing having disabled kids instead of trying to prevent it. (This goes well beyond OI. There are families who try to get kids Dx with autism simply for the extra money they get from SSI.) For some people using disabilities, real and faked, to generate income is a way of life.

I think his idea of incentivizing not having kids if you are disabled is interesting. There’s a great danger in trying the ban any group from having kids, the famous slippery slope. But instead of some govt eugenic overreach or punishment instead let parents benefit/be rewarded for making a decision to not have kids if they suffer from or are a carrier for a debilitating inheritable genetic condition. There will still be disabled people because many conditions are flukes or mutations, but it would reduce the number. Reducing the preventable cases means more money and services available for living disabled people.