Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

Interesting to see a response that wasn't written by a full-on retard for a change. I'm puzzled by this, though:

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Is there some precedent that says that punitive damages are "essentially criminal in nature" and warrants elevating the standard of proof to "beyond a reasonable doubt" instead of the "preponderance of evidence" standard used for civil trials?
 
Interesting to see a response that wasn't written by a full-on exceptional individual for a change. I'm puzzled by this, though:

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Is there some precedent that says that punitive damages are "essentially criminal in nature" and warrants elevating the standard of proof to "beyond a reasonable doubt" instead of the "preponderance of evidence" standard used for civil trials?

That misstates the burden of proof for exemplary damages in Texas, which is not "beyond a reasonable doubt" but "clear and convincing evidence." Tex. Civ. Prac. & Rem. § 41.003(b).

So it appears there is some wonky shit in this, too.
 
That misstates the burden of proof for exemplary damages in Texas, which is not "beyond a reasonable doubt" but "clear and convincing evidence." Tex. Civ. Prac. & Rem. § 41.003(b).

So it appears there is some wonky shit in this, too.
I knew there was something off about that section.
 
That misstates the burden of proof for exemplary damages in Texas, which is not "beyond a reasonable doubt" but "clear and convincing evidence." Tex. Civ. Prac. & Rem. § 41.003(b).

So it appears there is some wonky shit in this, too.

So what happens when you get two of these exceptional super lawyers facing off against each other. Do they just fling idiotic shit like this back and forth at each other until one of them blinks and folds, or do they spend most of their time picking apart the bullshit from the otherside with the best shit picker being the winner? Or maybe they just keep spinning out shit like this at each other until one side runs out of money and everyone goes home.
 
Do you have an archive of that article? The link seems to be dead.

Works here. But when I try to create an archive I get a 404.

Do either of these work?

 
Works here. But when I try to create an archive I get a 404.

Do either of these work?

Quoth the Raven "404." Was it the same content as my link?
 
So what happens when you get two of these exceptional super lawyers facing off against each other. Do they just fling idiotic shit like this back and forth at each other until one of them blinks and folds, or do they spend most of their time picking apart the bullshit from the otherside with the best shit picker being the winner? Or maybe they just keep spinning out shit like this at each other until one side runs out of money and everyone goes home.

I have no idea where he got this idea. Although there appear to be a number of law review articles floating this theoretical concept, it's certainly not embodied in any Texas rules or cases, or by the Supreme Court. Punitive damages are a civil and not a criminal penalty and are not required to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

Maybe he's a kook with a hobby horse about the issue, but he's representing it as an actual legal argument even though the actual rule quite clearly says "clear and convincing."
 
I had a friend in law school who was the son of a state supreme court justice. Still a great guy for all that and a bit estranged from his dad. Not in a drama way, but just kind of wanting to make it on his own and be out from under the shadow of his dad.

About three or four years out, he was doing small-scale criminal defense work. Stuff like drunk driving cases and low level pot possession. Nothing special. Imagine somebody like Nick Rekeita and you have something like his attitude toward life.

But because of his kind of unique last name, a whole bunch of his dad's cronies and people wanting to curry favor with the old man nominated him for "Super Lawyer". My friend thought it was the funniest damn thing ever and he took the publication that sponsored it at the time (Law & Politics) up on their offer to spend something like $200 to buy a little write up in their rag.

It started, "Prosecutors crap their pants when they hear "X" is on the case . . . " and went downhill from there.

He died far too young from a heart attack.

Every time I see somebody boasting about being a Super Lawyer, I remember my friend saying, "It's all fucking bullshit anyway, so I decided to have fun with the fuckers."
 
That misstates the burden of proof for exemplary damages in Texas, which is not "beyond a reasonable doubt" but "clear and convincing evidence." Tex. Civ. Prac. & Rem. § 41.003(b).

So it appears there is some wonky shit in this, too.

Still thou.....at least you can call this a professional response unlike the pile of steaming crap Casey Erick answered with.
 
Still thou.....at least you can call this a professional response unlike the pile of steaming crap Casey Erick answered with.

He could be intending some kind of constitutional argument if it ever gets to that stage. Maybe he's a proponent of this fringe view of punitive damages, and fishing around for a chance to make the argument, and you can't make it on appeal unless you make it at trial.

I have no idea why it's in there. It doesn't actually harm anything so far as I can tell, but maybe it's a sign that we can expect future eccentricity.
 
Works here. But when I try to create an archive I get a 404.

Do either of these work?

Same deal. With the link @BoxofMonkeys it seems like, unless the article is only two paragraphs long, that the rest is hidden behind a pay/account wall too.
 
Works here. But when I try to create an archive I get a 404.

Do either of these work?

I had no problems accessing the page and creating an archive.
 
Same deal. With the link @BoxofMonkeys it seems like, unless the article is only two paragraphs long, that the rest is hidden behind a pay/account wall too.

Well, fuck their shit, then.


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"Super Lawyers" Beware
By Lauren M. Gregory, Litigation News Associate Editor – September 20, 2016
An ethics opinion condemning attorney accolades based on "popularity contents" rather than recipients' true merit has stirred debate over the ways in which lawyers should be permitted to promote themselves to potential clients. Contextual meritorious information is now required under some states' ethics rules, most recently New Jersey. Some ABA Section of Litigation leaders caution that blanket "Superlawyer" type advertisements could be viewed as misleading to potential clients if not presented with enough explanatory context.
New Jersey "Notice to the Bar" Warns Lawyers
The New Jersey Supreme Court Committee on Attorney Advertising has published a Notice to the Bar in response to "numerous grievances regarding attorney advertising of awards, honors, and accolades that compare a lawyer's services to other lawyers' services." The Committee warns that those who wish to advertise themselves as recipients of awards such as "Super Lawyers, " "Rising Stars," "Best Lawyers," "Superior Attorney," "Leading Lawyer," and "Top-Rated Counsel," may do so "only when the basis for the comparison can be verified and the organization has made adequate inquiry into the fitness of the individual lawyer."
The Notice places the burden on the lawyer seeking to advertise such an award to determine whether the organization conferring the award had made "inquiry into the attorney's fitness," which must be "more rigorous than a simple tally of the lawyer's years of practice and lack of disciplinary history."
Then, if the award meets this preliminary test, the lawyer must take the additional step of adding contextual information in proximity to any reference to the award, including: (1) a description of the standard or methodology on which the award is based (either in the advertising itself or by reference to a "convenient, publicly available source"); (2) the name of the comparing organization that issued the award; and (3) the disclaimer that "No aspect of this advertisement has been approved by the Supreme Court of New Jersey."
Finally, the Notice warns, when the name of the award contains a superlative such as "super," "best," "superior," "leading," or "top-rated," the advertising must "state only that the lawyer was included in the list with that name, and not suggest that the lawyer has that attribute."
How Much Regulation Is Really Necessary?
Most litigators are already self-regulating, taking care to describe themselves as "listed as a 'Super Lawyer' as opposed to 'I am a Super Lawyer,'" explains Dolly Hernandez, Miami, FL, cochair of the Section of Litigation's Family Law Litigation Committee. "As lawyers, we have a duty to market ourselves in an ethical fashion," Hernandez says. "I think people are very careful. You do not want to be associated with a fee-paid service, for example, where if you don't pay, you don't receive the award."
In Hernandez's experience, "Super Lawyers" and the like are not solely fee-based or "popularity contests," as asserted by the New Jersey Committee. But even if they were, potential clients could just as easily become confused by other media reports over which the attorney has no control, offers Helen E. Casale, Norristown, PA, cochair of the Section's LGBT Litigator Committee.
"I don't know how [an attorney advertising his or her own accolades] is any more misleading than picking up whatever publication in which it's published," Casale says. "If someone wants to put in their biography that they were voted a 'Super Lawyer' for three years in a row, I think they should have the right to say that."
Even so, notes Cynthia C. Albracht-Crogan, Phoenix, AZ, Cochair of the Section's Solo & Small Firms Committee, it is important to remember that not everyone is familiar with the vetting process behind certain awards, and for those individuals, context is key. "The advertisement of these types of awards can be confusing to prospective clients," Albracht-Crogan warns. "The [New Jersey] rule, which requires citation to the qualifications for the awards, helps eliminate that confusion and is a positive step towards honesty in advertising."
Keith Swisher, Phoenix, AZ, Cochair of the Attorney Advertising Subcommittee of the Section's Ethics & Professionalism Committee, also sees the benefit of providing potential clients with disclaimers. However, he believes state ethics committees should take a step back and view the issue with a more critical eye. "Statements will often be made about what a consumer will think without, say, a market survey or other empirical data supporting the proposition," Swisher says.
Meanwhile, it is important to balance public interest with attorneys' free speech rights in the advertising realm, he adds. "It's a tough issue," Swisher observes. "Disclaimers can be good, and they can fix advertising that would otherwise be misleading. But if you require too many disclaimers, you are then infringing too much on free speech rights. There is that line that is hard to find in some cases."
Wavering Ethical Standards
The debate over regulation of "Super Lawyers" and similar awards has been ongoing. In fact, New Jersey prohibited this form of advertising altogether pursuant to the Committee's Opinion 39 in 2006. But the New Jersey Supreme Court vacated Opinion 39 in 2008 due to First Amendment concerns.
Although debates continue in various other jurisdictions across the country, after continued dialogue over a period of years, "at least some of the ambiguities have been clarified and, as a general notion, more and more states have become comfortable with these types of lists," Swisher explains.
A practical approach to compliance that balances the interests of the attorney and client may be best, Swisher offers. For example, Section members may want to include a hyperlink to information about a particular award to provide context for those who want it without having to overload promotional materials—especially pithy social media posts—with lengthy disclaimers, he suggests. "That wouldn't do too much damage to a Twitter-type advertisement or banner."
Keywords: attorney advertising, Rule 7.1, ethics
 
He could be intending some kind of constitutional argument if it ever gets to that stage. Maybe he's a proponent of this fringe view of punitive damages, and fishing around for a chance to make the argument, and you can't make it on appeal unless you make it at trial.

I have no idea why it's in there. It doesn't actually harm anything so far as I can tell, but maybe it's a sign that we can expect future eccentricity.
At least this eccentricity is benign? Assuming this is a pet project, then there is at least a fair chance he only inserted this in on the off-chance he gets to try to argue it. It definitely isn't a center point, so this isn't a for sure sign of exceptionalism.
 
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