Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[Allanon]

So, since they rejected confidentiality agreements, does that mean that unlike the other depositions he went through, they won't be omitting large chunks of irrelevant things? Any embarrassing question the Amazons ask will end up published?

 

[repentance]

Even better: We get the depositions. In full.
They wanted everything to be public.
They're going to get their wish.

Edit: I guess, except for tax information(?)

It sounds more like the court is going to rule on confidentiality as issues arise. I think tax information and contracts were given as examples of the kind of information which might be regarded as confidential rather than some blanket exclusion already determined by the court.

I also expect that the court will be asked to rule many, many times.

So, since they rejected confidentiality agreements, does that mean that unlike the other depositions he went through, they won't be omitting large chunks of irrelevant things? Any embarrassing question the Amazons ask will end up published?

From the information we have so far, the court will rule on confidentiality issues as they arise - which means that a fair bit of information from the depositions could be ruled confidential. The difference is that the court will be making that determination rather than the attorneys agreeing upon it between themselves.

Mon and Ron are now in a position which makes it harder for them to ask the court for confidentiality, though.

 

[HeyYou]

Even better: We get the depositions. In full.
They wanted everything to be public.
They're going to get their wish.

Edit: I guess, except for tax information(?)

It may not be good for Vic, it definitely won't be good for MoRon and crew, but it will be great for us.

 

[TheClappening]

Yes but if I recall correctly, there were people in the replies of this tweet asking if she meant what she said and she gave a response that implied so. She also had enough time since she sent the tweet till now to clarify that she did not want any actual harm upon Vic (which to my knowledge, she has not done). Hence, I think if those two conditions are met, then her defence is fucked. Even if you meant it as a hyperbole, that fact that you did not issue a statement that you do not condone violence against him is a clear indication that you wanted people or were directing people to go after him and try to physically harm him.

It's not very stable, but I'm pretty sure they could go with that angle given conditions were met

I highly doubt it. A reasonable person isn't going to see the head'n'balls tweet and come to the conclusion that Jamie was inciting violence against Vic. I certainly don't.

As others have pointed out, it shows that Jamie doesn't like Vic, and is more likely than not to make statements with reckless disregard to the truth because of said dislike. That's why people like to point to that tweet. It doesn't show that she wants to physically emasculate Vic, rather that she has the motive to lie about him.

 

[AStupidMonkey]

Casey Agreed to not file ANTI-SLAPP before both depositions are complete. To clarify.

This is what Vic Wanted.

This is what I expected to happen: the judge would ask some very simple questions. Like "do you intend to file a TCPA?"

The act of filing it stays discovery immediately by operation of law. It isn't up to the judge.

But it looks pretty bad for Casey if he agrees not to do that, then does it anyways. Could that be contempt?

Also, for all we know at this point, he may have said something more weasely and lawyer-like. Like, "defense has no such intention at this time."

 

[kadoink]

What timezone though? I don't know Texas Time.

Texas time is always "Ten too..Tend to your own damn business!"

 

[Allanon]

I don't think the judge can stop Casey, but I'd imagine it's a real bad idea to personally piss off the judge before things even really get started. It'd be like personally pissing off the opposing lawyer so instead of it being simple business, the entire firm is specifically out to grind you into dirt no matter the cost.

So, nothing like any of any of MoRon's previous strategies, they should be fine and tethered down by survival instinct and common sense.

I personally think whatever embarrassing things they try to pull out of Vic without confidentiality protection won't be nearly as harmful to him as what the Amazons may do to them, because he's already been ruined by far worse accusations. Finding out he's a playboy who used to do drugs in college or something is just not going to ruin him anywhere near the level of rampant pedophilia and rape.

 

[Urbanmech]

hmmm I am kind of thinking this may be a loss for Casey. I mean it all depends on what happens if he goes back on his word with the TCPA thing. He is going first in Depositions now and it gives BHBH a gauge on what to ask MoRon when its their turn. Casey ask questions pertinent to the case, BHBH will also. Casey goes off the rails and tries to get embarrassing stuff out of Vic, BHBH will probably do something similar if not worse.

 

[Allanon]

hmmm I am kind of thinking this may be a loss for Casey. I mean it all depends on what happens if he goes back on his word with the TCPA thing. He is going first in Depositions now and it gives BHBH a gauge on what to ask MoRon when its their turn. Casey ask questions pertinent to the case, BHBH will also. Casey goes off the rails and tries to get embarrassing stuff out of Vic, BHBH will probably do something similar if not worse.

True. since BHBH likes to mirror civility, if Casey acts like a raging dick and is more concerned with embarrassing Vic than trying to get real information out of him (because he knows there's nothing to get), then they should have full lease and excuse to go hard into MoRon. It avoids them looking bad or petty.

 

[Beavis]

It may not be good for Vic, it definitely won't be good for MoRon and crew, but it will be great for us.

I’ve said it before, but i think it’s going to come out that Vic had affairs with women that were married or in committed relationships. I hope Vic cucked Ron.

 

[TexOffender]

I’ve said it before, but i think it’s going to come out that Vic had affairs with women that were married or in committed relationships. I hope Vic cucked Ron.

That would sure explain a lot. Far as we've seen vic and ron have never been in the same room together.

 

[PrinceofAllCucks]

That would sure explain a lot. Far as we've seen vic and ron have never been in the same room together.

Probably because he was told to wait outside the room like a good boy while Vic spent some quality time whaling.

 

[GeneralMint]

I’ve said it before, but i think it’s going to come out that Vic had affairs with women that were married or in committed relationships. I hope Vic cucked Ron.

If that is what the defense was banking on, that Vic's sexual escapades would look bad to his Christian fans/friends, this is a whole new bowl of stupid. Did they really think he'd just let people think he's a sexual molester rather than being a pussy magnet?

 

[El Goblina]

Sounds like a little from column A and a little from column B type situation.

I think the tactics here are markedly more subtle. I've yet to see a discernible misstep from Beard, or at least one that can't be explained tactically.

Confidentiality requests are expected from Beard, because he's positioning himself as someone sympathetic, deeply concerned about the impact of information on the case. It gives him distance from third-party observers like Rekieta, because he's acting in a manner that would interfere with Rackets' YouTube income.

Heck, it's even possible that the spurious subpoena duces tecum was intended to get Erick to underestimate Beard.

I'm not sure if anyone else got the kind of "DO NOT MESS WITH THIS MAN" vibes from Beard in Rekieta's interviews with him. Big teddy bear until you cross him, then you're in over your head before you know it. Beard is like the anti-Holmberg.

Erick's side is also posturing hard WRT the confidentiality requests, only they're doing it backwards: "We have nothing to hide!" blah blah blah. We know that in the end, this is going to be very ugly, but for the sake of posturing, their entire case is built around a bunch of baseless public libel, so this is consistent, and they're not going to change their position without being forced.

 

[TexOffender]

If that is what the defense was banking on, that Vic's sexual escapades would look bad to his Christian fans/friends, this is a whole new bowl of stupid. Did they really think he'd just let people think he's a sexual molester rather than being a pussy magnet?

If he looked like harvey weinstein they could spin it that way, but it's pretty obvious he's a member of house pussy slayer.

 

[Far Queue]

This is what I expected to happen: the judge would ask some very simple questions. Like "do you intend to file a TCPA?"

But it looks pretty bad for Casey if he agrees not to do that, then does it anyways. Could that be contempt?

Also, for all we know at this point, he may have said something more weasely and lawyer-like. Like, "defense has no such intention at this time."

I think the judge would just reject it based on the existing agreement which would be considered legally binding. The court may not be able to prevent someone from filing a TCPA except for very limited circumstances that are unlikely to apply here, but that's wholly different from stating that it can't be filed until after certain events occur. Presumably part of this agreement would be that they aren't subject to the normal filing deadline as well.

Maybe Monica and Ron are stupid enough to believe that this works in their favor (don't ask me how) but it's also a license for the Amazons to bend them both over the table and fuck them raw, then bend them over backwards and violate them all over again, and once that warm-up has concluded, spend the next five hours of the deposition making their lives utter hell.

I suspect that the information we have is just the tip of the iceberg. Ty probably only gave those texts to Nick to show a king to Casey to let him know that he isn't bluffing. But Ty's holding four aces in reserve and all Casey has is a pair of fucking idiots. I don't know if all of the aces will get turned over in the deposition, but I suspect that clubs will come out.

 

[GeneralMint]

If he looked like harvey weinstein they could spin it that way, but it's pretty obvious he's a member of house pussy slayer.

Granted he's getting weeaboo women, and from experience that requires at most part-time employment and ownership/utilization of a bar of soap and a toothbrush, but still. Who would rather be thought of as a sexual predator as opposed to beastmaster of cat-ear wearing spergettes? ... well, maybe Mumkey Jones at this point.

 

[JosephTX]

On Monday I'm going to contact the court to inquire about what paperwork and notices I'm required to file per their local rules to video and audio record and possibly stream hearings so I can start trying to set up field agents.

 

[Superman93]

On Monday I'm going to contact the court to inquire about what paperwork and notices I'm required to file per their local rules to video and audio record and possibly stream hearings so I can start trying to set up field agents.

Sempi fuckin Fi u brave autist

 

[Hexadecimal]

On Monday I'm going to contact the court to inquire about what paperwork and notices I'm required to file per their local rules to video and audio record and possibly stream hearings so I can start trying to set up field agents.

That's probably the best profile tagline I've seen on the board.