Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

[WarpedTourWasFun]

Amanda/Ren's latest update...I'm just going to leave this here without further comment.

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I could have lived and died twice over without ever needing to know this.

 

[Munchie_Minder]

I could have lived and died twice over without ever needing to know this.

Yah, but could you have survived sepsis 93 times without knowing this? That’s the REAL test.

 

[RanchRanchLover]

Morgan is the cunt that keeps on giving.

 

[Munchie_Minder]

Morgan is the cunt that keeps on giving.

What if she’s now having gastric bypass from gaining a bunch of weight?

 

[A Detachable Penis]

Glad you’re doing better. I don’t think you can ever really know if anyone is faking or not, unless they admit it. Because somatization disorder is real and the brain will give you symptoms of things you think you have. Look up and research Munchausens and Somatization disorder and the differences.

If someone is just OTT but has real issues, then they’re generally going to just have one or two chronic illnesses, that they sit there and ruminate on and go into way too much detail about. Munchausen people who are faking it for either attention or monetary gain are in general going to go through many doctors, many diagnoses, and end up with this laundry list of diagnoses that are often contraindicative of each other (example: fibromyalgia and Ehlers Danlos Syndrome). They’re also going to shut down and possibly get really OTT when someone calls out their behavior.

Someone with somatization disorder could be OTT as well. But they’re going to typically have more vague complaints that run similar to physical issues with anxiety. The difference usually between this and Munchausen is that munchies are actively looking to take on new diagnoses and so they grill people about their symptoms and then start talking about those symptoms, fishing for diagnosis. So, one year the munchie might be looking for epilepsy diagnosis, and then doctor debunks that and then they’re searching for a narcolepsy diagnosis “because maybe I’m actually just falling asleep instead of falling catatonic”, then after that they might move on to heart issues, “maybe I’m fainting”. Etc etc.

Edit to add: In general, if a person has a REAL chronic illness, they may post a lot about it in a short time when searching for diagnosis or just having been diagnosed but then maybe mention something about it very rarely afterward. I’ve never seen anyone who doesn’t have Munchie or isn’t extremely OTT talk about it literally every day on social media.

A bit off topic, but not as we do have autism faking munchies in here.

Autism + ADHD and OCD is controversial as both the latter are explainable as symptoms of the first. You see plenty of folks with both diagnoses but any supposed advocate should be aware of this and should at least mention that hey, they're symptoms and not separable disorders.

I've seen arguments that dyslexia, dyscalculia, dyspathy, etc are all symptoms of related developmental issues to autism and thus aren't necessarily relevant or the most useful to diagnose separately (except for dysphagia as it alone has actual serious side effects of not being able to eat properly). All diagnoses should be useful shorthand to explain significant symptomology whereas ADHD adds nothing to a diagnosis of autism.

Aka, munchies list everything under the sun just to make themselves sound better especially with these as they are easy to claim and you dont even have to fake all the time.

 

[$hakerattle]

Ask and you shall receive. Hey, Morgan! Since you’re reading here and calling us all a bunch of pussies, why don’t you post a little more than your words. You’re old enough to get your records. Let’s see your diagnoses. Let’s see your medical records that show you have EDS, you know.. one from a GENETICIST. Let’s see the medical records from your little “brain on fire” stunt that show you actually had AE. Show us the receipts. Instead you’ve deleted a bunch of things online. For what reason? Good job sending the five or so people who still believe you to this site though!

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More pandering about the surgery she is being vague about.
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Now, onto the good stuff..

Spoiler: Morgan goes ape about kiwis

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P.s. U still dying, Morgan? Let’s see the paperwork on that. What condition is it that’s killing you?

jesus christ, morgan. i skimmed over pages of run-on sentences and all i could hear was "reeeeeeeeeeeee!!!"

glad i asked for info, tho. what a gold mine - your update was the real mvp tonight.

since she's reading this: morgan, you don't have AE. no doctor has ever diagnosed you with AE. you watched a netflix movie about AE and decided it was the most sooper speshul thing you wanted to have. every doctor agreed that you were faking, one almost removed you from your parents' custody, and you were placed in psych. i'm sure you've got some mental health issues, and maybe depression causes some of your pain, but the amount of drugs and surgeries you believe you need is just absurd. even more absurd is any doctor dumb enough to placate you with the aforementioned drugs and surgeries.

you were asked to show proof of your diagnoses. you won't, because there is no proof. feigning illness gets you attention and drugs. you get to feel special and avoid working. that's all there is to it.

like someone else said, people like morgan are the reason so many actually disabled/chronically ill/whatever folks stay quiet - they don't want to be lumped together with the "spoonies."

 

[Ellesse_warrior]

What if she’s now having gastric bypass from gaining a bunch of weight?

Her weight gain was what made me think she was getting better but then I had another look at her photos and the weight on her face looks like the kind you gain when you take steroids. I could be wrong though and she just started putting on weight after starting to use medical marijuana.

Has there been any update on what surgery she's having or is she keeping it vague for dramatic effect? What's the likelihood that she's still pushing an AE DX and has exhausted all other options so they are scheduling a brain biopsy?

 

[StasisOne]

Her weight gain was what made me think she was getting better but then I had another look at her photos and the weight on her face looks like the kind you gain when you take steroids. I could be wrong though and she just started putting on weight after starting to use medical marijuana.

Has there been any update on what surgery she's having or is she keeping it vague for dramatic effect? What's the likelihood that she's still pushing an AE DX and has exhausted all other options so they are scheduling a brain biopsy?

She is getting a pyloroplasty and a J Tube. It sounds like she thinks she is vomiting because of delayed gastric emptying, so they widen the stomachs opening to the intestines to speed up emptying time. She must drink a crap ton of water in order to vomit as much fluid as she does. So her puffiness could be water retention from that as well.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

She is getting a pyloroplasty and a J Tube. It sounds like she thinks she is vomiting because of delayed gastric emptying, so they widen the stomachs opening to the intestines to speed up emptying time. She must drink a crap ton of water in order to vomit as much fluid as she does. So her puffiness could be water retention from that as well.

You actually believe she’s regularly vomiting all kinds of fluid for real? She’s jealous of all the other IG munchies with j-tubes.

Morgan being out of action for awhile thanks to her psych stay and meds meant she fell behind all the munchie trends. She’s now back in the game and mad she does have toobes to show off and get infected. Munchie goals!

 

[Munchie_Minder]

Well, well, well. Welcome back, Morgan. Morgan’s friends, in case you’re new here and would like to really know what we are... we are not here to make fun of actual sick people. We are here to make fun of people who are faking illness for gain, whether it be to avoid work, get medications, or those sweet internet asspats. Many of us are in the medical field as doctors, nurses, etc, or are even chronically ill ourselves. We find behavior such as Morgan’s to be damaging to both the actual chronically ill people and their supporters as it paints people with her purported conditions as attention-seekers, wastes precious hospital time and public money on someone who is not, in fact, critically ill, or dying as she claims.

We are calling her out because her claims are wildly inaccurate and contradictory as to what she says she has. And even if she DID have all that she claims to, she is obscenely OTT, claiming she’s dying and needs hospice for 18 or so conditions. We are here to call that behavior out too. Normal person: ah man, I have an ingrown toenail. Let me google how to fix it. Go on about my day after soaking my foot and trimming my nail. OTT: take 100 photos, post online about how bad my toe hurts, go to hospital, consult with podiatrist, fail to do anything suggested, get toe more infected, post “omg, might lose my toe to gangrene”, schedule procedure in the hospital to remove toenail, film it, vlog it, complain about how ugly my toe is without a nail, rinse and repeat for every minor human problem.

Spoiler: Morgan’s “Final” Address to Kiwis

Spoiler: Hilarious Meme Morgan Posted

Take the meme’s advice m&m and move along. You’ll feel better.

P.S. Morgan, EVERY bit of what you said when you “set the record straight” was recorded and posted. We have the balls to post it. Every bit. Stop lying. Sorry you don’t have the balls to post your records nor post this post explaining what we actually are. Hopefully, you’ve led at least one or two followers here though.

 

[MistressCaridad]

The thing that these munchies don’t seem to get is, among the people calling them out on their behavior are a lot of people who work in the medical field and work with genuinely chronically ill people, people who have the conditions they fake and just don’t talk about it, or people who have friends or family with those conditions.

They also don’t seem to understand that there are “tells” that are lacking in their supposed illnesses that out them as fake and the people that actually know what they’re talking about and don’t get their information strictly from Dr Google can see this. (I’d give some examples except I know that these dipshits scour the Internet for information on how to make their alleged illnesses more real and I don’t want them wasting resources and ER and doctor’s office staff’s valuable time anymore than they already do.)

They also don’t seem to understand that people who call them out aren’t pissed at them for “being sick”. They’re pissed because these selfish assholes (hi Morgan) are, as I mentioned earlier, wasting valuable resources that could be used on legitimately ill people such as hospital beds (especially when capacity is limited), medical personnel’s time and energy, units of blood (and goddamn donor blood supplies are VERY limited), medications, etc.

 

[GenociderSyo]

They also don’t seem to understand that people who call them out aren’t pissed at them for “being sick”. They’re pissed because these selfish assholes (hi Morgan) are, as I mentioned earlier, wasting valuable resources that could be used on legitimately ill people such as hospital beds (especially when capacity is limited), medical personnel’s time and energy, units of blood (and goddamn donor blood supplies are VERY limited), medications, etc.

Or the money alone they are wasting. I have no idea how they get all this paid for unless they somehow are on medicare and even then its EXPENSIVE. Going to the E.R. and getting a bed in the hall due to an emergency runs upwards of SIX THOUSAND dollars. I emergency surgery last year and hospital stay of 5 days they billed upwards of 80 thousand dollars. I can't imagine what these people are costing since I'm sure as hell they can't pay for any of this.

 

[Video Games]

They also don’t seem to understand that people who call them out aren’t pissed at them for “being sick”. They’re pissed because these selfish assholes (hi Morgan) are, as I mentioned earlier, wasting valuable resources that could be used on legitimately ill people such as hospital beds (especially when capacity is limited), medical personnel’s time and energy, units of blood (and goddamn donor blood supplies are VERY limited), medications, etc.

Oh, I reckon they understand this. Their response is designed to prevent their supporters from realizing why they receive hate. By labeling all negative feedback as "chronic illness hatred" and responding to it as such, they rid their supporters of any need to question their own beliefs and backing of the Munchie. Hating chronically ill people for being sick is obviously a bad thing, so obviously that no empathetic person would even feel the need to consider holding such a position. So, with haters labeled this way, supporters don't bother to question whether they are on the "right side" or investigate the specifics of the hate--of course not hating chronically ill people is right! And the Munchie keeps her validation.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

Or the money alone they are wasting. I have no idea how they get all this paid for unless they somehow are on medicare and even then its EXPENSIVE. Going to the E.R. and getting a bed in the hall due to an emergency runs upwards of SIX THOUSAND dollars. I emergency surgery last year and hospital stay of 5 days they billed upwards of 80 thousand dollars. I can't imagine what these people are costing since I'm sure as hell they can't pay for any of this.

Morgan has certainly abused Medicaid. She’s an adult woman with no job who lives with her crazy ass mommy.

Morgan has doubled down as munchie as a career. She has no actual career or job prospects, no love life, no education, she tries to use pity to get a few IRL people to be her “friend,” she has no social life, she has nothing but her batshit mother and trying to force the Internet idiots and medical professionals to pay attention to her. It’s outstandingly pathetic.

Her and her mom will grow old together chasing some pretend hospital drama for the rest of their absurd, empty lives.

Morgan only claims we haven’t posted all her words because she fucked up and called attention to KF. She’s hoping the few idiots who follow her will just believe we ignore all her (non-existent) proof that she never posted.

The remaining people who interact with her are merely fellow munchies and ppl she’s collected from chronic illness groups. They all have a vested interest in supporting each other’s charade but it’s not as satisfying for Morgan. They also expect her to return the attention and pity. But no matter what she does they still shit talk and mock her anonymous on other forums.

It’s good for us that her desperate need for attention and e-begging means she will never know who is a secret Kiwi. She has zero clue who 95% of her FB friends even are. She’d have to delete the majority of her “friends” to stop the leaks.

 

[Munchie_Minder]

Morgan has certainly abused Medicaid. She’s an adult woman with no job who lives with her crazy ass mommy.

Morgan has doubled down as munchie as a career. She has no actual career or job prospects, no love life, no education, she tries to use pity to get a few IRL people to be her “friend,” she has no social life, she has nothing but her batshit mother and trying to force the Internet idiots and medical professionals to pay attention to her. It’s outstandingly pathetic.

Her and her mom will grow old together chasing some pretend hospital drama for the rest of their absurd, empty lives.

Morgan only claims we haven’t posted all her words because she fucked up and called attention to KF. She’s hoping the few idiots who follow her will just believe we ignore all her (non-existent) proof that she never posted.

The remaining people who interact with her are merely fellow munchies and ppl she’s collected from chronic illness groups. They all have a vested interest in supporting each other’s charade but it’s not as satisfying for Morgan. They also expect her to return the attention and pity. But no matter what she does they still shit talk and mock her anonymous on other forums.

It’s good for us that her desperate need for attention and e-begging means she will never know who is a secret Kiwi. She has zero clue who 95% of her FB friends even are. She’d have to delete the majority of her “friends” to stop the leaks.

Just for S&G I perused her friends list. What an interestingly eclectic group of people she went to high school with and have seemed to have moved on, gone to school, gotten jobs, and even babies, and then there are the ones she’s obviously collected on her healthcare travels with healthcare workers and other attention-seeking “spoonies”.

Side note, why are all these bishes shaving their heads? To look like cancer patients? It’s almost as prolific as the headboard with lights.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

Or the money alone they are wasting. I have no idea how they get all this paid for unless they somehow are on medicare and even then its EXPENSIVE. Going to the E.R. and getting a bed in the hall due to an emergency runs upwards of SIX THOUSAND dollars. I emergency surgery last year and hospital stay of 5 days they billed upwards of 80 thousand dollars. I can't imagine what these people are costing since I'm sure as hell they can't pay for any of this.

I assume many of them are munching on mommy and daddy's money.

Even if you're on Medicaid, some of the shit that munchies like to do wouldn't be covered. Like IVIg. And IVIg is NOT cheap. There's a substantial amount of cash being thrown around here.

 

[flatlandbasin]

Hi all. I've just migrated over from IF because they tangentially talk about you sometimes. On here I read back all the pages and you talk about them being OTT/ munchies themselves. I decided to test that out, and clicked on the very first poster of the day there. You were not wrong. Also if this is not what y'all post about here, tell me to GTFO and I will forever. I bring you u/liquidcatz.

He or she has been active only since March 3, 2019. However, they have posted 64 posts regarding alleged health issues. These are to include (reportedly):

POTS
hEDS
Narcolepsy without cataplexy "diagnosed without a sleep study"
Dysautonomia
Sciatica
Seronegative Spondyloarthropathy (suspected not confirmed, according to liquidcatz)
"Allergic to almost every plant"

On drug seeking:
"Ritalin helping dysautonomia"

r/dysautonomia - Ritalin helping dysautonomia

7 votes and 4 comments so far on Reddit

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A month before, they were asking if adderall helped with ADD

r/Narcolepsy - Do stimulants like Adderall work for people with ADD?

4 votes and 14 comments so far on Reddit

www.reddit.com

On toys:

Is getting a cane just to appear disabled wrong? Are there any special shoes for people with hEDS? Wanting to get a non-electric wheelchair. Vogmasks. The special rings and bracelets.

r/ehlersdanlos - Opinion: Is getting a cane just to appear disabled wrong?

10 votes and 43 comments so far on Reddit

www.reddit.com

r/ehlersdanlos - Shoe recommendations?

11 votes and 33 comments so far on Reddit

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https://www.reddit.com/r/ehlersdanlos/comments/b910u5/how_do_you_use_non_electric_wheel_chairs/

r/TrueChronicIllness - Vogmask customer service is amazing!

9 votes and 1 comment so far on Reddit

www.reddit.com

And finally and most importantly: this person's doctors are doubting that they are disabled! "According to my primary care I'm not disabled"

r/disability - According to my primary care I'm not disabled

25 votes and 9 comments so far on Reddit

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They went to Cleveland Clinic for cardiac rehab, which many commenters pointed out to them was for people who have just had heart attacks or heart surgery. They stated their own geneticist told them it was not for people with hEDS. They were very upset that after stress tests they received a customized care plan that said to engage in low-impact exercise such as a stationary bicycle.

r/dysautonomia - Cleveland clinic cardiac rehab updates

17 votes and 9 comments so far on Reddit

www.reddit.com

There's a lot more, and you can check out their post history if you'd like. I was unable to find any other related social media.

 

[Sooper Speshul Southerner]

I believe I may have stumbled upon a male munchie. He even calls himself a spoonie, but he’s all up in tangles over not being given adequate amounts of OxyContin for his “torn ligament and beginnings of osteoarthritis”. So maybe he is just drug seeking? One of his posts even mentions a partner who is undergoing cancer treatment and won’t be able to adopt because she has bipolar and had a goFuckme to raise money to continue to pay for her egg preservation. He’s also a pagan into healing arts and says he’s had more prayers answered this way than he ever did as a Christian.

Without further ado,

Spoiler: Meet David

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Could it be?? A male BPD?? Going to look into him more. Male borderlines are rare and even fucking worse than the females. This should be good.

 

[bee squared]

"So that's actually a fun story. When they do sleep studies my body goes into fight or flight response and won't deep sleep at all. So he dignoased without one."

I love all the diagnoses that people will explicitly state they didn't get tested for or tested negative for. Cause that's easy to believe.

 

[Munchie_Minder]

Hi all. I've just migrated over from IF because they tangentially talk about you sometimes. On here I read back all the pages and you talk about them being OTT/ munchies themselves. I decided to test that out, and clicked on the very first poster of the day there. You were not wrong. Also if this is not what y'all post about here, tell me to GTFO and I will forever. I bring you u/liquidcatz.

He or she has been active only since March 3, 2019. However, they have posted 64 posts regarding alleged health issues. These are to include (reportedly):

POTS
hEDS
Narcolepsy without cataplexy "diagnosed without a sleep study"
Dysautonomia
Sciatica
Seronegative Spondyloarthropathy (suspected not confirmed, according to liquidcatz)
"Allergic to almost every plant"

On drug seeking:
"Ritalin helping dysautonomia"

r/dysautonomia - Ritalin helping dysautonomia

7 votes and 4 comments so far on Reddit

www.reddit.com

A month before, they were asking if adderall helped with ADD

r/Narcolepsy - Do stimulants like Adderall work for people with ADD?

4 votes and 14 comments so far on Reddit

www.reddit.com

On toys:

Is getting a cane just to appear disabled wrong? Are there any special shoes for people with hEDS? Wanting to get a non-electric wheelchair. Vogmasks. The special rings and bracelets.

r/ehlersdanlos - Opinion: Is getting a cane just to appear disabled wrong?

10 votes and 43 comments so far on Reddit

www.reddit.com

r/ehlersdanlos - Shoe recommendations?

11 votes and 33 comments so far on Reddit

www.reddit.com

https://www.reddit.com/r/ehlersdanlos/comments/b910u5/how_do_you_use_non_electric_wheel_chairs/

r/TrueChronicIllness - Vogmask customer service is amazing!

9 votes and 1 comment so far on Reddit

www.reddit.com

And finally and most importantly: this person's doctors are doubting that they are disabled! "According to my primary care I'm not disabled"

r/disability - According to my primary care I'm not disabled

25 votes and 9 comments so far on Reddit

www.reddit.com

They went to Cleveland Clinic for cardiac rehab, which many commenters pointed out to them was for people who have just had heart attacks or heart surgery. They stated their own geneticist told them it was not for people with hEDS. They were very upset that after stress tests they received a customized care plan that said to engage in low-impact exercise such as a stationary bicycle.

r/dysautonomia - Cleveland clinic cardiac rehab updates

17 votes and 9 comments so far on Reddit

www.reddit.com

There's a lot more, and you can check out their post history if you'd like. I was unable to find any other related social media.

Shit like this is what is poisoning the chronic illness community for everyone; patients, doctors, advocates, and families.

Doctors are getting fearful of referring to “support” groups for fear of making their patient feel invalidated, or worse, them feeling like they too need all the toobz. Patients are questioning their diagnosis. (“I hear this is now being over-diagnosed.” “Why don’t I need a cane, wheelchair, feeding tube?”) Advocates now have to wonder whether the people most involved with support groups even have the particular illness. Patient’s families are now thinking, “well, my husband, spouse, child must not be that bad since THEY don’t need a feeding tube or port.”

Finally, there is a reason why EDS, particularly HEDS is so prolific. It’s because it is not life endangering or life threatening in 99.9% of cases and people live long enough lives to pass on their DNA! Only an additional mitochondrial diagnosis or other rare disease makes it more likely to live a shortened life. Is it a painful, annoying disorder? Yes? Did people absolutely live for thousands of years without toobz and smartdrives? Yes.