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Snowflake Christine Milneaux - Munchie who came here to sperg [PM sneasel if you wanna do a proper OP on this tard]
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I mean, this is what she WANTED. This was part of her big incredible plan to be a superstar beloved sick person who films their frilly room over and over for ten minutes a day and then collects mountains of pretend love and acceptance from the comments.
You can’t control the internet, Christine. And you can’t control what it uncovers about you, especially since you’re a world-class idiot who left the largest online footprint ever, all linked to your silly persona. We haven’t even bothered to find out your real name, but it’s not hard.
I don’t know how you thought this would play out...perhaps you’d sail in here and drop a well-mannered ‘good day’ and we would all post “lol” “ur fat” “piss off fucker” and you’d be the clever, witty, charming and mannered prima donna who runs rings around the drooling apes, then gathers up her skirts and flounces off to youtube with a basket of “Kiwi Farms bullied me about my illness!” under your arm and be welcomed into the higher echelons of morons who play sick for attention.
KF posters are not all idiots. We usually weed most of those out. Many KF posters are men and women with careers, families, medical degrees, even PhDs...and yes, large internet followings. Some of us are published and accomplished people. We come from all walks of life, all experiences and identities, and we are bound together by one common thread: taking the piss out of halfwits like you.
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Really? I thought this was the site for homeless alcoholics at internet cafes to complain about those people, shit. My bad.
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Yeah. Reddit/Twitter/Tumblr are all full of bleeding hearts and snowflakes that they’re afraid to question her tall tales that just don’t add up or else they’ll be reeeeeeeeeed at for BULLYING A DISABLED PERSON U SHITLORD
This is the thing. I don’t think Cuntstine realizes that for all our degeneracy (another example, for a while we followed a woman with such extreme body dysmorphia that she inflated her boobs to the point of near-bursting and a crazy lady who built a cult on getting people to drink enough extremely salty water that they started shitting their intestinal linings out) there are quite a lot of people on the farms who are very educated and intelligent people, autistic interest in tards on the Internet aside, so we are going to question and point out the inconsistencies and bullshit she’s trying to purvey.
(I know I keep mentioning all the different cows we follow here and what makes them all so follow worthy, I’m trying to underscore to this bitch how truly boring and small potatoes she really is. I don’t know if she can pull her head out of her ass long enough to understand though.)
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And yet, alas, the joke is on us for being oddly fascinated by her in a train wreck sort of way.
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Stop telling @AbraCadaver what to do, you sped and join in on eulogizing Christine with us or gtfo.
She died before Tammy or Lola. We must dissect her life to see where she went wrong.
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pfft you guys providing information on the Victorian Era has been more interesting than anything shes ever said.
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I thought the history of irradiated products and sulfanilamide was pretty cool myself. I’d heard of the radium girls before but some of that was new to me.
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That's where she went wrong. She hasn't even read Locke.
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Some from column A, some from column B.
The history of radioactive consumer products in history has been infinitely more interesting then @Christine Milneaux
Case in point, I googled that condom. I have not googled @Christine Dingleberry
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Were corsets are dangerous as people portray them to be ? I saw a bunch of articles/videos on how they were actually safe and just as restrictive as today's underwear, but I have a feeling this is somewhat not right. I'm not 100% sure either way, but everything I read is either "They removed their bones for beauty" Or "Corsets weren't THAT bad!!".
Also, I can't imagine radioactive anything would taste good. I have to commend the people who would go with what doctors were pushing at the time, because drinking radium sounds nasty.
(also to stay on topic im glad she's not replying anymore, her way of speaking gave me a headache because it reads like a 13 year old trying to sound smart when they get called a faggot in a game)
Edit: I would say she looks like she has downs or something in her pics but that might give her an idea for something new to fake and trying to use for attention.
Also, I can't imagine radioactive anything would taste good. I have to commend the people who would go with what doctors were pushing at the time, because drinking radium sounds nasty.
(also to stay on topic im glad she's not replying anymore, her way of speaking gave me a headache because it reads like a 13 year old trying to sound smart when they get called a faggot in a game)
Edit: I would say she looks like she has downs or something in her pics but that might give her an idea for something new to fake and trying to use for attention.
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It depends on the type of corset you’re talking about.
The hook and loop style corsets were primarily to support the weight of dresses that were made of heavy fabric (so the skirt wouldn’t pull away from the bodice) and also to smooth the underwear out. They often had steel boning as an added support but weren’t all that tight.
(Just for reference, this one also has garter straps to hold the stockings, it’s actually from the early 1900s so a little later than the time frame we’re talking about but that’s the premise)
Men often also wore hook and loop corsets under their suits to make their clothes lie smooth and flat.
Tight lacing, on the other hand, was a completely different animal and could be detrimental to one’s health.
Taken to an extreme, it fucked one’s rib cage and abdominal organs and caused the back muscles to atrophy. (Interesting article about tight lacing and health below)
www.rcseng.ac.uk
So basically it depends on the type and how they’re fitted.
(Just for reference, this one also has garter straps to hold the stockings, it’s actually from the early 1900s so a little later than the time frame we’re talking about but that’s the premise)
Men often also wore hook and loop corsets under their suits to make their clothes lie smooth and flat.
Tight lacing, on the other hand, was a completely different animal and could be detrimental to one’s health.
Taken to an extreme, it fucked one’s rib cage and abdominal organs and caused the back muscles to atrophy. (Interesting article about tight lacing and health below)
The dangers of tight lacing: the effects of the corset — Royal College of Surgeons
A look at the medical effects of tight corsets as worn by women in the 18th and 19th centuries.
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I did read an article with quotes about some shop girls from the Victorian era who worked at higher-end clothiers and were locked into their corsets by the owner at the start of every day and let out after work. They were required to wear painfully tightlaced corsets on the job because it made them more appealing.It depends on the type of corset you’re talking about.
The hook and loop style corsets were primarily to support the weight of dresses that were made of heavy fabric (so the skirt wouldn’t pull away from the bodice) and also to smooth the underwear out. They often had steel boning as an added support but weren’t all that tight.
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(Just for reference, this one also has garter straps to hold the stockings, it’s actually from the early 1900s so a little later than the time frame we’re talking about but that’s the premise)
Men often also wore hook and loop corsets under their suits to make their clothes lie smooth and flat.
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Tight lacing, on the other hand, was a completely different animal and could be detrimental to one’s health.
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Taken to an extreme, it fucked one’s rib cage and abdominal organs and caused the back muscles to atrophy. (Interesting article about tight lacing and health below)
So basically it depends on the type and how they’re fitted.The dangers of tight lacing: the effects of the corset — Royal College of Surgeons
A look at the medical effects of tight corsets as worn by women in the 18th and 19th centuries.
Young girls were often trained up into corsets from a very young age, put in stays (a pseudo-corset) as soon as 6. Girls at boarding school would often be made to sleep in their tight stays and would be tied into them with complicated knots to stop them from trying to take them off, and they would be cinched smaller and smaller over the years to train their waists small. So no, they were much more restrictive than a bra and panties today.
Edit: can we just rename this thread Victorian Apprecation Thread? If we delete @Christine Milneaux’s posts it’ll be perfect.
E: fixed lousy mobile typing
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I couldn't agree more. This has actually become quite an interesting and engaging thread...sans Christine.
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>you will never come to your senses on a fainting chair, being held in a loose embrace and proffered sips of brandy by a swarthy gentleman in a sharply tailored suit of felted wool
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Yeah, there was a type of anemia doctors saw quite a bit in women, and especially younger women, called chlorosis that drastically decreased when tight lacing went out of fashion. No hard scientific data but it doesn’t seem entirely coincidental either.
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They needed whale bones to make corsets back then, didn't they?
It was a harsher experience, wearing a corset.
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That's OK. Most easily availiable household prouducts were so toxic, suicide was easy to come by. Once all hope was lost, A big swig of Paris Green, a chunk of arsenic intended for rat control, or a light snack of those poisonous matchtips would do you right in. Pretty awfully, but relatively quickly.
Dear gods, I wanted to walk away, but the victorian sperging has been too informational to put down, sigh.
Initially, yes. IIRC, They used flexible baleen from the whale's mouth for many things heavy plastics are used for now, such as knitting needles. As industry picked up and new metalworking techniques evolved (and whale populations plummeted due to same), light spring steel replaced whalebone.
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Ah, fuck here comes my corset sperging. Tight lacing was never quite the phenomenon it's made out to be, and by the time it was "popular" whalebone was already replaced by spiral steel (whalebone doesn't conform to the body very well and tends to give a cylinder shape when used. Spiral steel has hold but is also really, really flexible).
There's a lot of evidence that tight lacing was really more of a fetish. For example, a lot of the contemporary first person accounts of tight lacing were from "health" magazines that were actually thinly-veiled fetish rags written by men (a lot of them also included forced corseting, corsets that were locked on the wearer, sissification, and pedophilia fantasies).
A lot of the photos we have of women laced up very tightly are the late 19th century equivalent of pinup models. They were real women who really did that to themselves and achieved very small waists, but it was often because their livelihood revolved around selling photos of themselves in the undergarmies to men. Tight lacing was more often practiced by young women as a special occasion kind of "I need to fit in this dress for Mr. So-and-so's holiday ball so I'll just lace myself so tight I can't breathe" thing. Like a teenager going on an extreme crash diet to look good in her prom dress.
The extant corsets in most collections have the odd 20" waist among them, but most are much, much larger than that, 28-34", about on par with what someone at a healthy or slightly chubby weight for their build would wear to get a 2-4" waist reduction. They were also were substantially different than earlier corsets in form. They were longer with hip gores and gave a really strong curve to the bust-waist-hips rather than the straight cylindrical form of earlier styles. They exaggerated the pinched in waist effect by pairing full skirts, bustles, crinolines, and "mutton chop" sleeves with tightly-fitting bodices with a deep, elongated v-shaped waist line and sometimes chevron-like patterns or vertical stripes stitched into the bodice.
The idea that tight lacing was very popular and literally killing women was actually propaganda spread by women's rights activists, particularly bicyclists but also suffragettes and that ilk, to argue for practical dress reform that wasn't so restrictive of their movement. It didn't work, but you know, gold star for effort. Take medical claims that corsetry caused this, that, the third problem with a pretty generous pinch of salt and remember that this was also the era when they thought angry uteruses made women crazy if they didn't have enough babies and that heroin was a safe, non-addictive alternative to morphine. I cannot stress enough how rudimentary medical knowledge was in this time. We just learned what germs were a few decades before and some doctors were still thinking that washing your hands between lancing an abscess on Mr. Jone's ass and delivering Mrs. Smith's baby was unnecessary. Corsets also got the blame for tuberculosis. Chlorosis or green sickness is just an old-timey word for hypochromic anemia, the same thing that happens to vegans who don't supplement their iron and B vitamins or in people who take too many NSAIDs and give themselves GI bleeds.
Problems tight or even moderate lacing did cause with prolonged use were core muscle weakness and constipation. Not nearly as sensational as the broken ribs puncturing lungs most people think of.
(What was really dangerous was the later Edwardian S-bend "Gibson Girl" corset that forced your pelvis into an unnatural angle, destroyed your lumbar vertebrae and threw off your center of balance. Luckily steel shortages during WWI killed that fucker off right quick.)
And because historians gonna historian: most of this info from Corset: A Cultural History by Valerie Steele and Adorned in Dreams: Fashion and Modernity by Elizabeth Wilson with probably some also taken from Mechanical Horse: How Bicycling Changed American Life by Margaret Guroff.
A lot of the photos we have of women laced up very tightly are the late 19th century equivalent of pinup models. They were real women who really did that to themselves and achieved very small waists, but it was often because their livelihood revolved around selling photos of themselves in the undergarmies to men. Tight lacing was more often practiced by young women as a special occasion kind of "I need to fit in this dress for Mr. So-and-so's holiday ball so I'll just lace myself so tight I can't breathe" thing. Like a teenager going on an extreme crash diet to look good in her prom dress.
The extant corsets in most collections have the odd 20" waist among them, but most are much, much larger than that, 28-34", about on par with what someone at a healthy or slightly chubby weight for their build would wear to get a 2-4" waist reduction. They were also were substantially different than earlier corsets in form. They were longer with hip gores and gave a really strong curve to the bust-waist-hips rather than the straight cylindrical form of earlier styles. They exaggerated the pinched in waist effect by pairing full skirts, bustles, crinolines, and "mutton chop" sleeves with tightly-fitting bodices with a deep, elongated v-shaped waist line and sometimes chevron-like patterns or vertical stripes stitched into the bodice.
The idea that tight lacing was very popular and literally killing women was actually propaganda spread by women's rights activists, particularly bicyclists but also suffragettes and that ilk, to argue for practical dress reform that wasn't so restrictive of their movement. It didn't work, but you know, gold star for effort. Take medical claims that corsetry caused this, that, the third problem with a pretty generous pinch of salt and remember that this was also the era when they thought angry uteruses made women crazy if they didn't have enough babies and that heroin was a safe, non-addictive alternative to morphine. I cannot stress enough how rudimentary medical knowledge was in this time. We just learned what germs were a few decades before and some doctors were still thinking that washing your hands between lancing an abscess on Mr. Jone's ass and delivering Mrs. Smith's baby was unnecessary. Corsets also got the blame for tuberculosis. Chlorosis or green sickness is just an old-timey word for hypochromic anemia, the same thing that happens to vegans who don't supplement their iron and B vitamins or in people who take too many NSAIDs and give themselves GI bleeds.
Problems tight or even moderate lacing did cause with prolonged use were core muscle weakness and constipation. Not nearly as sensational as the broken ribs puncturing lungs most people think of.
(What was really dangerous was the later Edwardian S-bend "Gibson Girl" corset that forced your pelvis into an unnatural angle, destroyed your lumbar vertebrae and threw off your center of balance. Luckily steel shortages during WWI killed that fucker off right quick.)
And because historians gonna historian: most of this info from Corset: A Cultural History by Valerie Steele and Adorned in Dreams: Fashion and Modernity by Elizabeth Wilson with probably some also taken from Mechanical Horse: How Bicycling Changed American Life by Margaret Guroff.
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Now that the topic of the thread has redirected to this, could you post some links to that series?