ContraPoints / William Nicholas Parrott / Natalie Wynn Parrott / Nykytyne2 - GamerGhazi Cannibalism Victim, Youtube "Intellectual"

Lol, somehow I was almost certain that you were a radfem based on your posts, and that’s why I responded the way I did. I know that they make up a large part of Nyk’s hatedom, that’s why he specifically addresses/caricatures that group so much.
I also agree with their point that he’s had no female socialization, and so it’s dubious that taking cross-sex hormones would make you meaningfully male or female if you weren’t beforehand

I openly agree with radfems but I don't have time to actively participate in online radfem communities, even though I enjoy reading what they say. I know about Nyk because I watched his channel in 2016 to 2017 and I have problems with troonery because of IRL troon experiences. I only used to vaguely be aware of Nyk's Youtube Atheist days, I really didn't realize how deep the rabbit hole went though.

I wonder how many people who currently watch Nyk are even aware of all the shit he got up to back then? All of the news outlets sucking his peen act as if his reappearance in 2016 was his first time on YouTube.
 
Tim Pool shreds the New York Times blowfile of Faraday Speaks that is really just a second blowfile of Nyk for having saved Faraday: "Youtube deradicalized him... but he was never radical in the first place."


Tim says he's a fan of Nyk's and that he "recommends Contra" but I think he is starting to realize where Nyk actually stands on the issues that Tim cares about, like freedom of speech:

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Here's the catch: Faraday said in the NYT article that he had a crush on Lauren Southern, referring to her as his "fashy bae"... who Faraday I am sure will be surprised to learn is actually Theryn's BFF. Yes, ContraPoints' current fuckbuddy/ assistant is Nyk's own ex-fashy bae, who was Lauren's best friend and even more rightwing than Lauren herself (who the hell do you think arranged for Lauren to shoot in South Africa?) Some of the footage that got Lauren Southern banned from entering other countries was literally shot in collaboration with Theryn literally behind the camera shooting the footage that got Lauren in trouble. Faraday was religiously watching Lauren Southern's videos... but despite the evil Google algo sending him deeper into the alt right rabit hole, Faraday was somehow not recommended a single video by Lauren's BBF and collaborator Theryn? How is that possible? Look at that patchwork of the disappearing thumbnails that is used as a banner for the NYT article. Why is Lauren's BBF Theryn absent from that banner? If NYT want to publish nothing but blowfiles of Nyk for deradicalizing people, why not interview Theryn about how she was saved by the SJW girldick?

With regards to the discussion about hormones and whether HRT changes your sexual orientation, I do not for a moment believe that hormones change your sexual orientation. I do not believe that Nyk magically developed an appetite for men only after he decided he was a chick. Did Nyk's delusion that he's a chick (or, alternately, his transbian delusion that he can fuck a man and have it be conceptualized as a form of "lesbian sex" because they are both M2Fs) help him overcome his initial trepidations about having sex with men? Sure, but I do not for a moment believe that Nyk became bisexual or pansexual because of the HRT. I was listening to a podcast interview with a researcher the other week on NPR who said that you cannot change your sexual preferences, even your ethnic/racial sexual preferences cannot be changed through willpower (so fuck the SJW cult for bullying people about this, I can find that NPR interview and link to it if anyone is interested). Nyk once said on a Livestream that, quote, "I don't have a sex drive unless I am on MDMA" and that when he's on MDMA he just wants "to fuck everyone regardless of gender". Nyk's sexual expression as a straight man was already associated with and facilitated by drugs, he openly admitted he needed drugs to have sex. He also admitted on a Livestream that he's quote, "pretty much straight, I've never put a dick in my mouth", but on another Livestream with his BDSM friend Brittany he admitted going to sex parties where the saw men standing around, quote, "frantically masturbating" or what is commonly known as a jerk circle (riddle me this: how did Nyk just-so-happen to witness this if he wasn't participating or at least interested enough to stand there ogling the other men doing it?) This was all pre-HRT Livestreams so he openly admitted that he already had an interest in men before he trooned out. I believe Nyk's sexual confusion is definitely related to sexual repression he experienced as a boy who was (he claims) drugged for being femme. What does MDMA do? It releases oxytocin in the brain, the so-called love hormone. Homos take MDMA (and a whole bunch of other drugs) to lose their inhibitions. What does estrogen do? It releases oxytocin in the brain, the so-called love hormone. I have said this a million times on this forum, estrogen given to troons is just legalized MDMA. They're not "changing their sexual orientation", they are just experiencing the love hormone.

I think troons who experience that oxytocin high tend to lose their fucking minds, the same way Timothy Leary and Raam Daas lost their fucking minds after they did LSD. Timothy Leary described the information overload of internet surfing as being kinda like an LSD trip, many laughed at an old acidhead saying that but it turns out he was right and effectively predicted the social media dopamine hit that people seek from getting likes. A lot of troons online talk about doing E the same way a drug addict would talk about doing drugs, or an acidhead would talk about dropping acid. I definitely think that transtrending is a kind of new drug craze. Many people have fucked people they didn't want to while high, even people of a sex they otherwise were not attracted to. I don't see why a troon fucking someone while tripping on oxytocin is any different. It's people doing stupid shit on drugs they would not normally do. Same shit, different drug.
 
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Tim Pool shreds the New York Times blowfile of Faraday Speaks that is really just a second blowfile of Nyk for having saved Faraday: "Youtube deradicalized him... but he was never radical in the first place."


Tim says he's a fan of Nyk's and that he "recommends Contra" but I think he is starting to realize where Nyk actually stands on the issues that Tim cares about, like freedom of speech:

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Here's the catch: Faraday said in the NYT article that he had a crush on Lauren Southern, referring to her as his "fashy bae"... who Faraday I am sure will be surprised to learn is actually Theryn's BFF. Yes, ContraPoints' current fuckbuddy/ assistant is Nyk's own ex-fashy bae, who was Lauren's best friend and even more rightwing than Lauren herself (who the hell do you think arranged for Lauren to shoot in South Africa?) Some of the footage that got Lauren Southern banned from entering other countries was literally shot in collaboration with Theryn literally behind the camera shooting the footage that got Lauren in trouble. Faraday was religiously watching Lauren Southern's videos... but despite the evil Google algo sending him deeper into the alt right rabit hole, Faraday was somehow not recommended a single video by Lauren's BBF and collaborator Theryn? How is that possible? Look at that patchwork of the disappearing thumbnails that is used as a banner for the NYT article. Why is Lauren's BBF Theryn absent from that banner? If NYT want to publish nothing but blowfiles of Nyk for deradicalizing people, why not interview Theryn about how she was saved by the SJW girldick?

With regards to the discussion about hormones and whether HRT changes your sexual orientation, I do not for a moment believe that hormones change your sexual orientation. I do not believe that Nyk magically developed an appetite for men only after he decided he was a chick. Did Nyk's delusion that he's a chick (or, alternately, his transbian delusion that he can fuck a man and have it be conceptualized as a form of "lesbian sex" because they are both M2Fs) help him overcome his initial trepidations about having sex with men? Sure, but I do not for a moment believe that Nyk became bisexual or pansexual because of the HRT. I was listening to a podcast interview with a researcher the other week on NPR who said that you cannot change your sexual preferences, even your ethnic/racial sexual preferences cannot be changed through willpower (so fuck the SJW cult for bullying people about this, I can find that NPR interview and link to it if anyone is interested). Nyk once said on a Livestream that, quote, "I don't have a sex drive unless I am on MDMA" and that when he's on MDMA he just wants "to fuck everyone regardless of gender". Nyk's sexual expression as a straight man was already associated with and facilitated by drugs, he openly admitted he needed drugs to have sex. He also admitted on a Livestream that he's quote, "pretty much straight, I've never put a dick in my mouth", but on another Livestream with his BDSM friend Brittany he admitted going to sex parties where the saw men standing around, quote, "frantically masturbating" or what is commonly known as a jerk circle (riddle me this: how did Nyk just-so-happen to witness this if he wasn't participating or at least interested enough to stand there ogling the other men doing it?) This was all pre-HRT Livestreams so he openly admitted that he already had an interest in men before he trooned out. I believe Nyk's sexual confusion is definitely related to sexual repression he experienced as a boy who was (he claims) drugged for being femme. What does MDMA do? It releases oxytocin in the brain, the so-called love hormone. Homos take MDMA (and a whole bunch of other drugs) to lose their inhibitions. What does estrogen do? It releases oxytocin in the brain, the so-called love hormone. I have said this a million times on this forum, estrogen given to troons is just legalized MDMA. They're not "changing their sexual orientation", they are just experiencing the love hormone.

I think troons who experience that oxytocin high tend to lose their fucking minds, the same way Timothy Leary and Raam Daas lost their fucking minds after they did LSD. Timothy Leary described the information overload of internet surfing as being kinda like an LSD trip, many laughed at an old acidhead saying that but it turns out he was right and effectively predicted the social media dopamine hit that people seek from getting likes. A lot of troons online talk about doing E the same way a drug addict would talk about doing drugs, or an acidhead would talk about dropping acid. I definitely think that transtrending is a kind of new drug craze. Many people have fucked people they didn't want to while high, even people of a sex they otherwise were not attracted to. I don't see why a troon fucking someone while tripping on oxytocin is any different. It's people doing stupid shit on drugs they would not normally do. Same shit, different drug.
I like Tim Pool and I would say that I agree with him on most things besides some deep biological realities that he seems to not believe in. I think he's desperately trying to point out how he is still a leftist, even though he calls himself a classical liberal. This new fad of identity politics being mainstream is relevantly new and I think most people who aren't far leftists disagree with it. I believe the reason he is saying things in other videos even telling viewers to "watch contrapoints, she has good videos even though I don't agree with most of her points" is just a bunch of crap. I feel like behind the scenes these people are promoting each other. There are people at play here that aren't interested in truth and are trying to push a narrative.
 
I like Tim Pool and I would say that I agree with him on most things besides some deep biological realities that he seems to not believe in. I think he's desperately trying to point out how he is still a leftist, even though he calls himself a classical liberal. This new fad of identity politics being mainstream is relevantly new and I think most people who aren't far leftists disagree with it. I believe the reason he is saying things in other videos even telling viewers to "watch contrapoints, she has good videos even though I don't agree with most of her points" is just a bunch of crap. I feel like behind the scenes these people are promoting each other. There are people at play here that aren't interested in truth and are trying to push a narrative.
anyone that thinks tim pool is in it for anything other than money at this point is a clickpig
 
He's a cunt but he's done good journalism and has good principles.

He isn't a journalist at this point. He reads news articles written by other people and puts it on his Youtube channel. All you have to do is complain about SJW's with clickbait titles to get people to think you are a bastion of truth anymore. The bar is so low.
 
Another Current Affairs blowfile:

NJR: Here’s what I want to start with: I was thinking, in an ideal world, there would be no ContraPoints YouTube channel, because the points that you are contra to are horrible bigoted arguments by incels, racists, and transphobes.

NW: Yeah, they’re very bad points.

NJR: They’re terrible points! We don’t want the points. So it’s a shame that there even has to be a ContraPoints.

NW: Yes. It would be a makeup channel, if it weren’t for all of the other stuff.

Then STFU and go make a make up channel. No one's stopping you.

He thinks the alt right are over their peak:

I think that when you have a population that feels, in some way, that they’re humiliated, feels in some way that they’re not getting what they’re promised, and not getting what they deserve, feeling a lack of some kind of purpose, some kind of belonging to a cause that means anything… these are the conditions where these kinds of sinister techniques—scapegoating, resentment, in-group out-group thinking—this type of stuff can really thrive. And the alt-right, when they were at their peak, a couple years ago, they jumped on top of that.

Funny that Nyk would accuse others of "in-group out-group thinking" when he belongs to the SJW cult which is the most insular cliqueish group online that is certainly guilty of "in-group out-group thinking"

Nyk thinks that science is just an aesthetic:

NW: That’s a perfect example of this, what we’re talking about as a facts and logic aesthetic. Or even, in this case, a science aesthetic, where he’s constantly saying oh, trans people are crazy, they’re delusional, they just won’t look at the biology, they’re just wrong about biology, when the fact of the matter is I go to get my hormones filled every month, and the last whole few years of my life have been kind of revolved around basically constantly talking to doctors about my biology, and dealing with the situation of my biology. I am very acquainted with my biology. So it’s just a total straw man to suggest that oh, what we’re really debating about in this pronouns debate is biology. No, we are not. It’s not a debate about biology, it’s a debate about language, but the language debate, your STEM-lord is not equipped to have that debate, most of the time.

How is this "science is just an aesthetic" bulllshit not straight out of the pomo playbook? This is literally where every crazy pomo true believer ends up. That science is not about the objective presentation of objective facts but merely an attitude you adopt towards the presentation of facts. Keep in mind that troons only question science when it disputes their ideology, when they can weaponize science to support their bullshit they happily do so.

NW: Yeah, that’s my experience, too. people will come at me with this intense smugness, and just certainty that I’m basically a child that has no idea what I’m talking about with respect to anything. And then what’s amazing is that basically the opposite is revealed to be true within the conversation.

What conversation? Nyk never has any converstations with somoene who is a real opponent, like a dyed in the wool TERF or someone like that.

Nyk's guru Julia Serano gets mentioned (which is what cis journalists do when they want to virtue signal with trannies, they namedrop Julia Serano):

NJR: The thing you said about kind of how trans people think more about biology than anybody else. I always think about how Julia Serano, the trans writer, is a PhD biologist, but Ben Shapiro can’t acknowledge the existence of a person like that.

I thought science was just an attitude, so why does it matter that Julia Serano is a biologist? If science is just an attitude or an aesthetic according to SJW troons like Nyk, isn't Julia too merely adopting an attitude that will get her point across with little to no resistance because lay people are intimidated by and hence reluctant to argue against scientists?

First, the reason why Ben Shapiro doesn't acknowledge the existence of "a person like that" is because Julia herself a couple of years ago had published a rant on Medium saying she was going to withdraw from public participation and was only going to speak to trans-affirmative journalists. When you declare a personal blackout on the media don't act surprised when that same media ignores you. You got exactly what you asked for. If Julia Serano wants to debate Ben Shapiro she is free to do so anytime she wants.

Secondly, SJW trans activists always like to bring up the fact that Julia Serano is a biologist (when Julia openly admitted on a podcast back in 2014 that she hasn't actually worked at a lab as a professional biologist in almost a decade and is now basically a fulltime SJW) as supposed evidence of her academic superiority, but pointing out that Julia Serano has a biology degree is like saying: "This person has an Asian studies degree.". Do they speak Chinese? Japanese? Korean? What specific culture in Asia did they specialize in? Julia Serano's specialty as a biologist is fruitflies and crustaceans, "creepy crawlers" as she calls them on her website. Julia has never specialized in anyhing related to the biology of living breathing human beings yet she claims studying crabs gives her the right to say anything about the biological effects of transitioning on humans. Julia did participate in a bizarre series of experiments where creepy crawlers were radiated in the lab to alter their genetics and then made to breed in order to observe the effects of radiation-induced mutations on the creepy crawlers' offspring. (You can see why a lot of troons like Laurelai are such huge fans of nuclear energy; the purpose of such bizarre research where they radiate animals to cause mutations and have them procreate in the lab is obviously to show that radiation is supposedly completely harmless/such mutations are harmless, in which case I suggest we buy Laurelai and Julia a one-way ticket to Pripyat. Or maybe Fukushiima, since a lot of troons are such Weeboos.). How the hell does radiating crabs give Julia Serano the authority to say anything about the biology of living breathing human beings? It's plain ridiculous.

I think that in some ways, the current aesthetic of my channel is sort of like a drag show, that’s essentially what it looks like.

Nyk is not a drag queen. Making Youtube videos in your bedroom is not drag. Drag is theatre, it is a live performance art. Nyk is just ripping off drag culture while shitting all over the drag scene for being insufficiently accomodating of troons for his personal profit.

And then, I think, doing the drag aesthetic, now that I’ve transitioned, is kind of the same thing as like okay, call me a drag queen—if you’re going to call me a drag queen anyway, I’ll be the most extravagant drag queen on YouTube.

No one mistakes Nyk for a drag queen and he is not the most extravagant queen either. He's just another SJW troon who shits all over drag queens while stealing their looks, jokes and slang to give himself counter cultural cred by claiming access to or knowledge of a gay subculture he has no involvement in or interactions with. He is LAPRing at being a queen just like he's LARPing at being trans.

I don’t think anyone ever thought to take gamers serious as a political community until Gamergate happened. Then, these, like, vultures, Milo Yiannopoulos and so on, found a way to take that gamer resentment, and basically funnel it into Breitbart.com. That’s kind of what I see as an important lesson for YouTube. There are these communities that you don’t expect to be political that can turn political, fast. I think that’s important knowledge to have.

And Nyk is basically the Milo of the drag scene. No one took drag queens seriously until RPDR, that's when Nyk decided to move in and appropriate (now popular and mainstream-safe) drag so as to politicize it and turn it into another cultural battlefield for his army of SJW cult members. Queens, watch out for these SJW troons, you've let the fox into the hen house.

And I think that kind of sentiment was really effectively exploited by the people who were sort of pushing that conservatism is the new counterculture, or punk rock narrative. One of the things that I’m proud of with my channel is that I feel like I’ve been sort of successful, at least within my own little limited domain, at refusing to let them get away with that. In other words, by just being way more punk rock.

A Youtube millionaire claiming he's more punk than the punks... You are a usurper, an appropriator. Nothing more.

Oh, no, Bill 6…—this is how he got famous, remember, with all this scaremongering nonsense, now proven to be absolute nonsense, about how the pronoun police are going to be marching through the streets, throwing people in jail for not saying xe/xem. What is this, if not like oh, gosh, help me, I’m so oppressed, this is an Orwellian nightmare. Oh no, our speech is being poisoned.

That's exactly what happened. People are being thrown in jail for misgendering, people are being sued and losing their jobs, people are being ostracized and demonized for saying they don't believe in transitioning, whether for it's for secular or religious reasons. Jordan Peterson was 100% right. We are living in an Orwellian nightmare where speech and personal conscience (both secular and religious) is criminalized. The pronouns police just beat up British feminist Julie Bindel, urged on by the likes of ContraPoints and Julia Serano. "But it's not political violence when our side does it because our side is right."

NW: Yes, It’s something that’s extremely important to me. I think back on my time in grad school, and I just remember long, long afternoons of just absolute, soul-crushing boredom

If you were so bored out of your ass you could've gone to a real punk rock show and met some real punks, but hey, they might tell your snowflake ass shit you don't wanna hear about free speech and thinking for yourself rather than joining cults. Yes, I know some punks are trooning out themselves, revealing themselves to be the spineless bandwagon-jumping transtrenders they are. Sadie Switchblade was unable to raise the funds needed for his FFS. Unlike Nyk, Sadie is an actual punk rocker active in the scene but he is not a popular, massively overfunded Patreon millionaire like Nyk, plus he alienated the whole punk scene from himself by going after gender critical punk bands getting them dropped from their label. People are now avoiding Sadie because they don't want to donate money to a meddlesome bothersome SJW cult member attacking others in punk and telling them what to think or say. If Nyk was a punk or in punk they would've dealt with him likewise, and he too would would have been unable to fundraise, having earned himself a reputation for censoring others. Punks don't like censorship and if they can't make it known publically because of political correctness, they will make it known privately by refusing to fund your transtrending. Sadie got woke and went broke.

And I was someone who was raised with the Internet: My attention span is short, I like to be amused.

Cousin Pink said it best.

I remember watching Trump’s inauguration on this livestream with a million viewers, and the live chat was just this wave after wave of swastikas and Pepes, and I was like what is happening? And that’s gone. Like, it’s not gone, but it’s much more controlled, it’s contained. That hard right fashy energy has kind of lost its momentum, and that’s very reassuring to me.

Out of sight, out of mind because that's how delusional the left is, they think that if you can't see something it must not be happening. Just like with transition where you're banned from mentioning someone's past, even shit you saw them do with your own eyes, you are being encouraged to forget and repress history for the sake of maintaining peace in the present. All the SJW cult has done is created a massive toxic stew of repressed resentment waiting for that spark to explode (and it doesn't have to be a single event either, it can be multiple smaller things that begin to add up). Typical how these pomo true believers always forget Marcuse warning them that the repressed comes back to haunt.
 
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He isn't a journalist at this point. He reads news articles written by other people and puts it on his Youtube channel. All you have to do is complain about SJW's with clickbait titles to get people to think you are a bastion of truth anymore. The bar is so low.

He's also contradicting himself often, or at least his claimed "principles" like sargon and the rest of these types. I would not make the claim that he's principled. Him promoting contra is not the first time he's sided with or promoted someone who blatantly goes against what he claims to stand for, generally free speech. Basically all these "new media" types are the same as old, clickbait, nepotism, in group defense, virtue signals. They got spooked by bad labels given to them by the "old media" which they claim no one should believe, but they still care enough to desperately attempt to get away from by promoting somebody like contra even if it contradicts their claimed principles.

The "contra is reasonable progressive/sjw" was a funny skeptic point though. It's one thing to be open to speaking to these people. It's another to be a free speech advocate and promote very pro censorship types and claim they're totally reasonable people.
 
Nyk thinks that science is just an aesthetic:



How is this "science just an aesthetic" bulllshit not straight out of the pomo playbook? This is literally where every crazy pomo true believer ends up. That science is not about the objective presentation of objective facts but merely an attitude you adopt towards the presentation of facts. Keep in mind that troons only question science when it disputes their ideology, when they can weaponize science to support their bullshit they happily do so.

I was going to say just that, you beat me to it. As a physics student this gave me a stroke. How can Nyk (and other SJWs deep in science denialism) simultaneously downplay the importance of scientific methods and inquiry, and then also try to use Big Science to try and justify their troonery? Nyk and other BreadTubers like to present themselves as the true bastions of Facts and Logic (TM) while making a meme out of the right wingers who do the exact same thing. So apparently the difference is that one side is reactionary and the other isn't? Which is clearly false, because they're all reactionary. The idea that these people truly understand the science behind what they assert (as opposed to the right wingers) is laughable and insulting. In the mind of an SJW, everything is an identity, everything is an idea, everything is a theory, there is no such thing as a fact.

The problem is that all of these political YouTube channels treat science as something to be exploited to fit a narrative or justify a position, rather than as an objective evaluation of reality that can then have conclusions drawn from it. They pick and choose what makes them look good, and if that fails, then they treat science as subjective (but are still willing to exploit it of course). How many things are just an "aesthetic" in Nyk's eyes? Is this how he copes with reality? Maybe Nyk is suffering from hypofrontism. In which case, he really should get a brain scan, that is if he deems the MRI machine to produce a reflection of reality and not an "aesthetic".

So it’s just a total straw man to suggest that oh, what we’re really debating about in this pronouns debate is biology. No, we are not. It’s not a debate about biology, it’s a debate about language, but the language debate, your STEM-lord is not equipped to have that debate, most of the time.

Nyk straight up admits that the validity of his identity is rooted in language and policing of language, rather than reality. Which proves my point that these extreme SJWs don't care about reality, they care about creating a perception of reality in which their delusions have the ability to be "valid" if enough people play along. No shit this is one big word game. Whatever language you use to justify yourself or your identity Nyk, your body full of Y chromosomes (and your dick) exists independently of that. Just like the huge amount of conservatives still exist on the internet, independent of you acknowledging they exist.

I'm also not really comfortable with calling these people "far left". Genuine far leftists don't buy into identity politics. They're more like milquetoast liberal democrats.

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How can Nyk (and other SJWs deep in science denialism) simultaneously downplay the importance of scientific methods and inquiry, and then also try to use Big Science to try and justify their troonery?
you're making the ben shapiro fallacy, which is that facts matter as opposed to sentiments matter, which is what "scientifically-minded" people get hung up on very often. the postmodernists were absolutely right in pointing out that structuralism could be made contextless ("truth is a function of power"), the problem is that arbitrariness eventually darwinifies itself out of existence, i.e., selection is the law in nature - so "truth is a function of power" is only the short-term view with obvious immediate payoffs ("political power grows from the barrel of a gun" is true in the short term, but does a very bad job of explaining the origins of and need for political structure, economic systems, the churn of history, etc). the problem is that selection occurs over generations, so nyk et al. can wreak as much havoc as they want in the short term and it doesn't matter to them or their besties. 100 years from now we (might) know better, but it comes at the cost of today.
 
Maybe Nyk is suffering from hypofrontism. In which case, he really should get a brain scan, that is if he deems the MRI machine to produce a reflection of reality and not an "aesthetic".

He did get a brain scan back when he was studying neuro-sci and volunteering as a research assistant in the neuroscience lab at the Georgetown Laboratory for Relational Cognition, where Nyk was brain-scanning others. The MRI scan you see in this video is Nyk's own. Very feminine brains, evidently.

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I found SpacePan's original video response to Faraday Speaks' first video. This part, where he goes into Faraday's claim that he was deradicalized by Nyk, is really good:


"ContraPoints is fucking smoke and mirrors. There is so little substance in a ContraPoints video. It's a lot of dancing around with lighting and making different characters and creating disingenuous strawmen. So, either this [Faraday] is either a guy who is purposefully putting out a narrative designed to appeal to people who just basically run on vapid emotions and are looking at a skin-deep surface level version of different argumentations, and just want whatever feels the most emotionally useful. Which I think is a brilliant propaganda approach for this kind of NPC left to use. Or, he actually is that kinda dim, this really is where he's at. So either way, I just don't have a lot of sympathy because, you were sitting right on a lot of these answers you were looking for, and you're just kinda like, moving around letting reality just fucking happen to you instead of thinking for yourself."

I went over to Faraday's channel to see how "viral" he really got after the NYT blowfile and he has barely gained more subscribers. Faraday is clearly not accepted by the SJW crowd that worships Nyk, Oliver and Harry. I suspect it's because he's too working class and not snob/smug enough for their liking. Faraday doesn't flaunt his degeneracy and/or moral superiority the way the other three do, so he's rejected by the crowd that watches them. The purpose of the NYT blowfile was not about Faraday's change of heart, it was about the older, richer, better educated Nyk saving the dumber, poorer, working-class Faraday. Annie saved from the orphanage by Oliver Warbucks.
 
Another Current Affairs blowfile:
Then STFU and go make a make up channel. No one's stopping you.

Hopefully he starts one so he can attempt to moral police the beauty community over the dumbest shit and then gets hit with a million "expose" videos by tea channels. 🥺

And that gay dude's mullet tail is triggering me.


Julia has never specialized in anyhing related to the biology of living breathing human beings yet she claims studying crabs gives her the right to say anything about the biological effects of transitioning on humans. Julia did participate in a bizarre series of experiments where creepy crawlers were radiated in the lab to alter their genetics and then made to breed in order to observe the effects of radiation-induced mutations on the creepy crawlers' offspring. (You can see why a lot of troons like Laurelai are such huge fans of nuclear energy; the purpose of such bizarre research where they radiate animals to cause mutations and have them procreate in the lab is obviously to show that radiation is supposedly completely harmless/such mutations are harmless, in which case I suggest we buy Laurelai and Julia a one-way ticket to Pripyat. Or maybe Fukushiima, since a lot of troons are such Weeboos.). How the hell does radiating crabs give Julia Serano the authority to say anything about the biology of living breathing human beings? It's plain ridiculous.

I would question anyones moral judgment that willingly irradiates animals all day.
 
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@Cr1ms0n_&_C10v3r Not sure whether my joke went over your head, but your own conflicting views most certainly are. You're humming this odd narrative of "Oh sure, I agree with TERFs that gender is entirely subjective, by definition." But then backpedal on that by stressing that all 'men' who have transitioned are 'men' still. You can say that that's just semantics and that what you're really talking about on here is the biological sex. Yet that strand of essentialism (where all males and females exist on a binary) necessarily omits the diversity and variability of sexually dimorphic traits. So, one would still be making a social decision when adopting this essentialist stance, which isn't scientific. This isn't to say that there are no biological underpinnings of sex. On the contrary, much of it is just that. But that isn't incompatible with the idea of gender as a spectrum rather than a binary, and many scientists are in fact beginning to interpret the biological sex just like that.

@Nykysnottrans No but seriously, have you not considered making a Youtube video on 'Breadtube' in general and Nyk in particular? There's a lot of datum on here to dissuade people from following those influencers, and you will likely spread your message across to large audiences via that site. You seem very impassioned on this subject. Why not give it a try?
 
@Cr1ms0n_&_C10v3r Not sure whether my joke went over your head, but your own conflicting views most certainly are. You're humming this odd narrative of "Oh sure, I agree with TERFs that gender is entirely subjective, by definition." But then backpedal on that by stressing that all 'men' who have transitioned are 'men' still. You can say that that's just semantics and that what you're really talking about on here is the biological sex. Yet that strand of essentialism (where all males and females exist on a binary) necessarily omits the diversity and variability of sexually dimorphic traits. So, one would still be making a social decision when adopting this essentialist stance, which isn't scientific. This isn't to say that there are no biological underpinnings of sex. On the contrary, much of it is just that. But that isn't incompatible with the idea of gender as a spectrum rather than a binary, and many scientists are in fact beginning to interpret the biological sex just like that.

All men who "transition" via HRT and cosmetic surgery are men still, yes. In no aspect of reality are they a woman, because women are female, and being male is unchangeable. You have to define your terms and draw a line about what falls under a definition. Biological sex is a binary because we're a species that sexually reproduces. Just because sexual dimorphism is varied amongst individuals that doesn't negate the fact that there are only two sexes, and that fact doesn't "omit" variation (imagine if biologists concluded lions are hermaphrodites or sexless because some males don't have manes). There is nothing essentialist about it, some things just are. There is no logical consistency in the belief that being male or female is something you can achieve through self-proclamation or altering your body, because in that case you don't have a definition for these words. No scientist worth their salt believes "sex is a spectrum", because it isn't and to believe that is a fundamental misunderstanding of reproductive sex and what differentiates females and males on a genetic level. I consider "gender" to be a social concept removed from material biology.

Think of it like this, if we decided to destroy the English language and decide "man" and "woman" are airy-fairy concepts that are subjective and mean nothing, we'd still have two groups of humans that produce different gametes, have different sex chromosomes, have different bodies etc. that can reproduce with one another. We'd still need language to describe these two groups of people that respectively both make up half the human race, so we'd be back at square one.

People who treat this as a semantics game, like Nyk does, only do so to try and prove a point that they can technically, according to language, be a true and honest wammenz. Try to redefine basic language that has historically been universally understood if you want, but sex exists independent of people's view of gender (and however that even is defined by an individual) and so you're still going to need language to describe that, because it still exists.
Anyway, if you want to continue this autistic argument then post on my profile or whatever, because this thread will get cluttered.
 
@Nykysnottrans No but seriously, have you not considered making a Youtube video on 'Breadtube' in general and Nyk in particular? There's a lot of datum on here to dissuade people from following those influencers, and you will likely spread your message across to large audiences via that site. You seem very impassioned on this subject. Why not give it a try?

I am not eloquent, photogenic or just patient enough to get active on Youtube. Youtube is for young people with a lot of time and energy on their hands and that's not me. I think people should spend less time watching/participating on Youtube, and I do not want to contribute anything more than I already do to Google and other social media giants data-hoarding everything - unless it's a trannie, then they censor everything in the name of fighting deadnaming and misgendering, according to the data-overlords in Silicon Valley only trannies get to memory-hole their digital past, everyone else has to live with the fact that The Internet Is Forever and the fact that you can delete yourself but not your digital Doppelgänger. I have no desire to waste my time making videos about Nyk, only to watch them get banned by Youtube for sure. Look at what happened to Prince of Queens when he made videos criticizing Nyk. In this part of his video Prince talks about why having a political response channel is not a viable option on Youtube anymore. Also watch this part where he describes getting dogpiled by Nyk's cult when he started making videos about Nyk. Now his whole channel is demonetized when it was already shadow banned. I tried to look up Mancheeze's channel the other day and it seems to have disappeared too. Besides, Nyk is a narcissist and all a narcissist wants is for people to be making videos about him, attacking him, debunking him, etc, "all publicity is good publicity" for a narcissistic attention-seeker. The way to fight a narcissist is to deprive them of their food, which is attention. I don't think anyone should be wasting their precious time and energy responding to Nyk on Twitter/Reddit/Facebook, making videos about him, etc. A cult leader is nothing without his cult and cults need an external enemy/threat to promote group-cohesion and a crisis mentality in their members. People like Nyk are psychic vampires, they want to suck up your energy so that you waste it on them and their delusions instead of on yourself and your reality. I am not going to fall into that trap.
 
I was going to say just that, you beat me to it. As a physics student this gave me a stroke. How can Nyk (and other SJWs deep in science denialism) simultaneously downplay the importance of scientific methods and inquiry, and then also try to use Big Science to try and justify their troonery? Nyk and other BreadTubers like to present themselves as the true bastions of Facts and Logic (TM) while making a meme out of the right wingers who do the exact same thing. So apparently the difference is that one side is reactionary and the other isn't? Which is clearly false, because they're all reactionary. The idea that these people truly understand the science behind what they assert (as opposed to the right wingers) is laughable and insulting. In the mind of an SJW, everything is an identity, everything is an idea, everything is a theory, there is no such thing as a fact.

Exactly this. They are critical theorists that try and deconstruct anything to the point where everything is a social construct, there are even a few who believe all physical differences between men and women are due to societal pressure. It's leaking into the average normie too at this point, I heard a girl at work yesterday talking about how nobody watches the women's world cup because they are sexist, not because they are just objectively worse because of biology. If you can do that then you can literally tell people anything and they will believe it. Critical theory is the basis of all the cancer that is destroying western society at the moment.
 
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Yes, ContraPoints' current fuckbuddy/ assistant is Nyk's own ex-fashy bae, who was Lauren's best friend and even more rightwing than Lauren herself (who the hell do you think arranged for Lauren to shoot in South Africa?) Some of the footage that got Lauren Southern banned from entering other countries was literally shot in collaboration with Theryn literally behind the camera shooting the footage that got Lauren in trouble.
I don't know where to find the video at the moment, but I'm almost certain that during a livestream with Nyk and Theryn (it's the one where they were drinking the mimosas and getting handsy I think) someone asked Theryn about the "oppressed white South African farmers" talking point that was relevant at the time, and she responded with something along the lines of "the alt-right doesn't actually care about South Africa, they're just using what's happening there to support their narrative".

A lot of what spurred on the "white farmers" talking point was that documentary (Farmlands), correct? If what you're saying is true, and I'm remembering the circumstances of her remarks on the white South Africans correctly, then holy shit. I can't believe that someone could so suddenly and callously throw their former friend under the bus like that.
 
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All men who "transition" via HRT and cosmetic surgery are men still, yes. In no aspect of reality are they a woman, because women are female, and being male is unchangeable. You have to define your terms and draw a line about what falls under a definition. Biological sex is a binary because we're a species that sexually reproduces. Just because sexual dimorphism is varied amongst individuals that doesn't negate the fact that there are only two sexes, and that fact doesn't "omit" variation (imagine if biologists concluded lions are hermaphrodites or sexless because some males don't have manes). There is nothing essentialist about it, some things just are. There is no logical consistency in the belief that being male or female is something you can achieve through self-proclamation or altering your body, because in that case you don't have a definition for these words. No scientist worth their salt believes "sex is a spectrum", because it isn't and to believe that is a fundamental misunderstanding of reproductive sex and what differentiates females and males on a genetic level. I consider "gender" to be a social concept removed from material biology.

Think of it like this, if we decided to destroy the English language and decide "man" and "woman" are airy-fairy concepts that are subjective and mean nothing, we'd still have two groups of humans that produce different gametes, have different sex chromosomes, have different bodies etc. that can reproduce with one another. We'd still need language to describe these two groups of people that respectively both make up half the human race, so we'd be back at square one.

People who treat this as a semantics game, like Nyk does, only do so to try and prove a point that they can technically, according to language, be a true and honest wammenz. Try to redefine basic language that has historically been universally understood if you want, but sex exists independent of people's view of gender (and however that even is defined by an individual) and so you're still going to need language to describe that, because it still exists.
Anyway, if you want to continue this autistic argument then post on my profile or whatever, because this thread will get cluttered.

I'll happily discontinue this autistic sparring because it is circuitous, and because of cluttering (Although that didn't stop this forum from devolving into an all-out anti-trans ensemble a few pages prior.)

I am not eloquent, photogenic or just patient enough to get active on Youtube. Youtube is for young people with a lot of time and energy on their hands and that's not me. I think people should spend less time watching/participating on Youtube, and I do not want to contribute anything more than I already do to Google and other social media giants data-hoarding everything - unless it's a trannie, then they censor everything in the name of fighting deadnaming and misgendering, according to the data-overlords in Silicon Valley only trannies get to memory-hole their digital past, everyone else has to live with the fact that The Internet Is Forever and the fact that you can delete yourself but not your digital Doppelgänger. I have no desire to waste my time making videos about Nyk, only to watch them get banned by Youtube for sure. Look at what happened to Prince of Queens when he made videos criticizing Nyk. In this part of his video Prince talks about why having a political response channel is not a viable option on Youtube anymore. Also watch this part where he describes getting dogpiled by Nyk's cult when he started making videos about Nyk. Now his whole channel is demonetized when it was already shadow banned. I tried to look up Mancheeze's channel the other day and it seems to have disappeared too. Besides, Nyk is a narcissist and all a narcissist wants is for people to be making videos about him, attacking him, debunking him, etc, "all publicity is good publicity" for a narcissistic attention-seeker. The way to fight a narcissist is to deprive them of their food, which is attention. I don't think anyone should be wasting their precious time and energy responding to Nyk on Twitter/Reddit/Facebook, making videos about him, etc. A cult leader is nothing without his cult and cults need an external enemy/threat to promote group-cohesion and a crisis mentality in their members. People like Nyk are psychic vampires, they want to suck up your energy so that you waste it on them and their delusions instead of on yourself and your reality. I am not going to fall into that trap.

Nyk himself is hardly eloquent or photogenic enough to get active on Youtube but look at what happened. Of patience, you do need to have lots of it to do the amount of contribution that you've already granted to this forum, so I think you are underestimating your own ability in that. You don't need a standing channel inasmuch as a single video relevant enough to be viewed for posterity. Of narcissists, I can say with great confidence that serving a poisoned meal is as efficient as depriving one of any at all — The poison for Nyk is a video divorcing the individual from transgenderism without criticizing the transgender community. It's hard for anybody to do on the right because they're composed of bigots, and it's impossible for anyone on the left because they all suck up to Contra. If the video is informative, cold and impartial (and doesn't have a concrete author behind it, for good measure) then you just might make a very good jab at Natalie's persona. Naturally, I understand your position and I'm wholly content if you decide to keep it on here. I just think that keeping your knowledge to this place is a missed opportunity. Also, loved the pun!
 
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