Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[Stoneheart]

That pattern extends about a foot or more past the end of the fireplace, yet doesn't extend to the floor. There's just a black void between the fireplace and Vic's leg, so what's supporting the top half of that wall? Is it just freely hanging there? Can't claim it's lighting either when on the other side of Vic, you can see a gray background.

Its a Set. and the lighting isnt normal room lighting...

 

[NotaLolyer]

It's possible it's the part of his leg where the shadow isn't hitting, but the lines are still wrong on his right (our left) leg next to that bit. Then there's the whole floating wall.

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That pattern extends about a foot or more past the end of the fireplace, yet doesn't extend to the floor. There's just a black void between the fireplace and Vic's leg, so what's supporting the top half of that wall? Is it just freely hanging there? Can't claim it's lighting either when on the other side of Vic, you can see a gray background.

There's a few minor things I noticed, too, that don't make sense, like missing pixels up by his ear.

The wall looks badly reconstructed from bad memory of what was behind them in this picture since they’re blocking how far down it goes.

Someone on nicks stream mentioned hammermor on twitter so I looked it up and he also didn’t seem to notice Vic’s third leg lol

Edit: actually if it’s just a set it very well could just be a floating wall but meh, Vic’s still got a third leg that isn’t the one in his pants

 

[Hallstein995]

I first heard about it around 5 years ago on Encyclopedia Dramatica.

I was unaware anything on an encyclopedia dramatica had merit.

 

[Disapproving Bread]

It's possible it's the part of his leg where the shadow isn't hitting, but the lines are still wrong on his right (our left) leg next to that bit. Then there's the whole floating wall.

View attachment 795301

That pattern extends about a foot or more past the end of the fireplace, yet doesn't extend to the floor. There's just a black void between the fireplace and Vic's leg, so what's supporting the top half of that wall? Is it just freely hanging there? Can't claim it's lighting either when on the other side of Vic, you can see a gray background.

There's a few minor things I noticed, too, that don't make sense, like missing pixels up by his ear.

The wall could just be a section where the camera couldn't pick up enough light to get a negative on the camera. The fireplace combined with the person in front of it could be blocking off enough light to make it too dark for the camera to see.

That's likely not the case, but it's a possibility.

However looking at the stance is what really irks me about this picture. It just looks like a very uncomfortable way to straddle the side of a chair while also leaning on a mantle. The weight distribution looks off and quite frankly the part that looks the least fitting is the lady in the chair.

Granted, this could all just be a result of the stage lighting playing havoc with a low quality camera.

 

[k35LR2]

I was unaware anything on an encyclopedia dramatica had merit.

They don't have credibility, but you just asked where we first heard it. Not like any of the other sources have merit either lulz. Where did you first hear it?

 

[Hotfartz :)]

Her comments about the fanficiness of the story - responding that she was a writer - makes me think there's probably some embellishments , if it happened at all.
All she can prove (with the pictures) is that she knew of him. Not that they knew each other.

If something did happen, then the way she describes the aftermath, lamenting that he "hated her", makes me think that wasn't completely one-sided, either.

Can someone explain the fanfic angle to me? Like, people keep mentioning "fanfic" in conjunction with this 30-year-old story, but I don't understand the context. Must be before my time...

 

[UA 674]

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The wall looks badly reconstructed from bad memory of what was behind them in this picture since they’re blocking how far down it goes.

Someone on nicks stream mentioned hammermor on twitter so I looked it up and he also didn’t seem to notice Vic’s third leg lol

Edit: actually if it’s just a set it very well could just be a floating wall but meh, Vic’s still got a third leg that isn’t the one in his pants

No one noticed it.

 

[Stoneheart]

Edit: actually if it’s just a set it very well could just be a floating wall but meh, Vic’s still got a third leg that isn’t the one in his pants

god you people are realy that stupid? those 2 pictures are made on set of some highschool play, the wall is not a real wall. also he doesnt have 3 legs, thats just the lighting they have on stage, its very clear from the picture that it was not taken outside, in daylight or with normal room lighting.

 

[teriyakiburns]

god you people are realy that stupid? those 2 pictures are made on set of some highschool play, the wall is not a real wall. also he doesnt have 3 legs, thats just the lighting they have on stage, its very clear from the picture that it was not taken outside, in daylight or with normal room lighting.

All this wank about how the pic must be a shoop is supremely stupid. It's an old pic, one that proves precisely nothing, except that the two were in the same room once.

 

[Mr. 0]

All this wank about how the pic must be a shoop is supremely stupid. It's an old pic, one that proves precisely nothing, except that the two were in the same room once.

she tried to draw vic in but vic knew he could do better and ignored her

she swore vengeance from that day forward, and here we are today

 

[Tipsy Tea Cup]

All this wank about how the pic must be a shoop is supremely stupid. It's an old pic, one that proves precisely nothing, except that the two were in the same room once.

I agree. However, at this point, if Michelle should ever be involved, her testimony defeats itself. The most important thing is that there is a witness. Nobody is talking about the witness that "stormed" out of the place before the incident took place and confronted him the next time around. It is apparently a friend of Vic's and that was it, nothing else, that reeks of bullshit because KickVic would have been all over that and he would have come out to brigade him.

 

[Hotfartz :)]

Not to shift topic, but I would like to raise a question. The main argument regarding Vic being a creep was that the accusations have been around for years. So I wanted to ask when everyone first heard these accusations and who told them. I want to see of anyone actually heard from a victim, rather than heresay from a 3rd hand account.

Powerleveling a bit here...

I was on the NeoToonami forums for a few months...a fan project to make a fan-made Toonami after its cancellation. One day I get wind of Steve Blum tweeting that Toonami fans should tune into the annual Adult Swim April Fools stunt. At 12 a.m. eastern time, Adult Swim airs the opening credits to The Room...all of a sudden, TOM pops on the screen. "Oh Hi Adult Swim!" Cue recycled Toonami footage and a whole block of Toonami and Adult Swim classics such as DBZ, Trigun, Outlaw Star, Yu Yu Hakusho, and others...In short order, I joined the Adult Swim Message Boards, before Toonami was legit brought back a couple months later or however long it was...

Anyway, I mention all that to get to this: This coincided with a renewed interest in anime for me. For a brief time I even had a pipe dream of becoming a voice actor. I began looking up Youtube vids of interviews and panels with VA's I was familiar with, Vic being one of them...

I was never a fanboy of his like so many others. While I always thought his performance as Edward Elric was one of the best American VA performances ever, for the rest of his work I was either not familiar with it or was just like, "meh". He didn't blow me away in the videos I watched either. To me he seemed very effiminate, too much of a goldenboy asskisser to fans and cons, and maybe even conceited. And yes, I did get those creep / playboy vibes from him, from just watching videos.

However, I balanced those thoughts with the overall awesome experiences these people seemed to be having with him on camera, plus the overwhelmingly positive comments people had about him. I never saw one negative comment about him...

Until I was apart of the Adult Swim Message Board. Came across a thread where people were shit talking him for being a prima donna. Talking about him throwing tantrums for more space, being difficult, etc. Apparently one guy knew a higher-up con guy that said Vic would never be invited back to his con. I wpuld say the posters were split, but with more anti-Vic posts than pro-Vic ones. This was around 2012-2013. I remember leaving that discussion with an open mind, not entirely convinced one way or another. I had NEVER heard anything about him being a sex pest...

Until I saw the "Kip Mangina" video by Sean Schemmel and Sonny Strait for the first time, around this same time period. Could not believe that they would trash a fellow VA in that manner in "good fun". I started to wonder if my impressions from videos lined up with others' opinions of him.

However, I have always been level headed, and I knew that he never had any verifiable complaints against him, after having had what must be over a hundred thousand fan interactions. After all this shit came out I immediately realized that not even people in his Risembol Rangers fanclub (you know, that club he started to prep underage girls or whatever) ever came out with any stories despite being apart of his signings and dinners and shit.

Tldr. I am buzzed, I don't exactly even know what points I'm trying to make anymore, just noticed an interesting discussion point from @Hallstein995 I felt like replying to...

 

[Tipsy Tea Cup]

Powerleveling a bit here...

I was on the NeoToonami forums for a few months...a fan project to make a fan-made Toonami after its cancellation. One day I get wind of Steve Blum tweeting that Toonami fans should tune into the annual Adult Swim April Fools stunt. At 12 a.m. eastern time, Adult Swim airs the opening credits to The Room...all of a sudden, TOM pops on the screen. "Oh Hi Adult Swim!" Cue recycled Toonami footage and a whole block of Toonami and Adult Swim classics such as DBZ, Trigun, Outlaw Star, Yu Yu Hakusho, and others...In short order, I joined the Adult Swim Message Boards, before Toonami was legit brought back a couple months later or however long it was...

Anyway, I mention all that to get to this: This coincided with a renewed interest in anime for me. For a brief time I even had a pipe dream of becoming a voice actor. I began looking up Youtube vids of interviews and panels with VA's I was familiar with, Vic being one of them...

I was never a famboy of his like so many others. While I always thought his performance as Edward Elric was one of the best American VA performances ever, for the rest odmf his work I was either not familiar with it or was just like, "meh". He didn't blow me away in the videos I watched either. To me he seemed very effiminate, too much of a goldenboy addkisser to fans and cons, and maybe even conceited. And yes, I did get those creep / playboy vibes from him, from just watching videos.

However, I balanced those thoughts with the overall awesome experiences these people seemed to be having with him on camera, plus the overwhelmingly positive comments people had about him. I never saw one negative comment about him...

Until I was apart of the Adult Swim Message Board. Came across a thread where people were shit talking him for being a prima donna. Talking about him throwing tantrums for more space, being difficult, etc. Apparently one guy knew a higher-up con guy that said Vic would never be invited back to his con. I wpuld say the posters were split, but with more anti-Vic posts than pro-Vic ones. This was around 2012-2013. I remember leaving that discussion with an open mind, not entirely convinced one way or another. I had NEVER heard anything about him being a sex pest...

Until I saw the "Kip Mangina" video by Sean Schemmel and Sonny Strait for the first time, around this same time period. Could not believe that they would trash a fellow VA in that manner in "good fun". I started to wonder if my impressions from videos lined up with others' opinions of him.

However, I have always been level headed, and I knew that he never had any verifiable complaints against him, after having had what must be over a hundred thousand fan interactions. After all this shit came out I immediately realized that not even people in his Risembol Rangers fanclub (you know, that club he started to prep underage girls or whatever) ever came out with any stories despite being apart of his signings and dinners and shit.

Tldr. I am buzzed, I don't exactly even know what points I'm trying to make anymore, just noticed an interesting discussion point from @Hallstein995 I felt like replying to...

It kind of makes sense though. Think about it. In lieu of their jealousy for his success, it was a scummy way to project his insecurities onto Vic by using his background of Christian faith and associating that with the stigma of men of Christian faith who touch little boys.

Edit: You're killing me with the double post man lol

 

[ctalkep]

It's possible it's the part of his leg where the shadow isn't hitting, but the lines are still wrong on his right (our left) leg next to that bit. Then there's the whole floating wall.

View attachment 795301

That pattern extends about a foot or more past the end of the fireplace, yet doesn't extend to the floor. There's just a black void between the fireplace and Vic's leg, so what's supporting the top half of that wall? Is it just freely hanging there? Can't claim it's lighting either when on the other side of Vic, you can see a gray background.

There's a few minor things I noticed, too, that don't make sense, like missing pixels up by his ear.

Hey photo experts, you should analyze this one too... fishy walls, three legs, very suspicious.

 

[Hotfartz :)]

Alright, like @NotaLolyer said, Vic's got an extra leg in the pic. I was asked to do ELA testing, which I did, but there was no fucking point. I dont even know how I missed this the first time I looked at it when I did catch missing pixels.

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Whether it's actually another leg or not is irrelevant. It doesn't match the background of anywhere else. This idiot took an actual photo, took a pic of it, and shopped in Vic without bothering to take out the extra leg. There was no fucking reason to go doing ELA tests, or color analyses, or any other shit. He's got an extra leg. It's fake.

If anyone wants all the other stupid reasons this is fake, like the missing wall, let me know.

I actually thought that first post about the third leg was a penis joke...

 

[indianshedevil]

Hey photo experts, you should analyze this one too... fishy walls, three legs, very suspicious.
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That suppose to an illusion of some sort.

 

[NotaLolyer]

god you people are realy that stupid? those 2 pictures are made on set of some highschool play, the wall is not a real wall. also he doesnt have 3 legs, thats just the lighting they have on stage, its very clear from the picture that it was not taken outside, in daylight or with normal room lighting.

Lighting doesn’t make a solid substance appear between your legs unless you’re implying Vic has one massive calf and skipped leg day on the other.

All this wank about how the pic must be a shoop is supremely stupid. It's an old pic, one that proves precisely nothing, except that the two were in the same room once.

IIRC she’s trying to use it as proof her disproven story that Vic wasn’t in that town at the time

Hey photo experts, you should analyze this one too... fishy walls, three legs, very suspicious.
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literally just someone else’s leg, while Vic is standing next to nothing the same color as his legs but nice shitpost

 

[Hotfartz :)]

It kind of makes sense though. Think about it. In lieu of their jealousy for his success, it was a scummy way to project his insecurities onto Vic by using his background of Christian faith and associating that with the stigma of men of Christian faith who touch little boys.

Edit: You're killing me with the double post man lol

Yeah I fucked up in my drunkeness and frustration at my shitty internet.

 

[ManateeHunter]

How long till we start analyzing the photos where people's legs or fingers happened to look like penises?

 

[Son of Sparda 84]

Not to shift topic, but I would like to raise a question. The main argument regarding Vic being a creep was that the accusations have been around for years. So I wanted to ask when everyone first heard these accusations and who told them. I want to see of anyone actually heard from a victim, rather than heresay from a 3rd hand account.

I learned it legit last year when he was cast as Rohan for Jojo Part 4. I laughed so hard because I instantly knew who the voice was but when went on twitter I instantly saw some people extremely mad over this due to the fact that they saw Rohan (and alot of Jojo characters ) as gay people and seeing him played by an alleged homophobe made them go ballistic. I searched up anything that related to homophobia and Vic and all I got was him arguing actual homophobic Christian's, the reason why he shouldn't voice some Free character, forums from Rooster Teeth and TV Tropes and him talking about yaoi and why he didn't sign one of them. Like it is honestly understandable why he didn't wanna sign something that contains one of the characters he voices (and is a teenager) and an older man naked and making out. Like Ew. But before that all I knew from him is that he has a beautiful singing voice