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ShinyStar said:
How does fraud against BHBH intimidate kickvicers?
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The fraudulent action was to send one or more fake letters claiming to be from a lawfirm. Letters from law firms are frequently aggressive/threatening in one way or another.

So this rogue actor whoever they were was likely demanding something or otherwise threatening someone.
 
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Hotfartz :) said:
It might not even be kickvic. Just as likely that someone from ISWV is doing it to intimidate kickvicers.
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If we’ve learned anything from all this it’s that there’s certainly plenty of autism to go around.

The Nick thing though is weird. It makes marginally more sense as a double gay op, where someone was trying to make it look like KickVic was stupid/corrupt enough to impersonate Nick, but both motives are so exceptional it’s really up in the air. Which is made complicated by the fact that we have a wide cast of characters who I have zero trouble believing are stupid enough to think they could get away with just discrediting Nick.
 
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some_crazy said:
The fraudulent action was to send one or more fake letters claiming to be from a lawfirm. Letters from law firms are frequently aggressive/threatening in one way or another.

So this rogue actor whoever they were was likely demanding something or otherwise threatening someone.
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So the letter gets sent to a KickVicer to, say, take down a YouTube video or retract some tweets? I can see a certain kind of logic with that. Follow it through, though. Right now, the really cool thing to do if you're KickVic is to publish documents received from BHBH. That's what all the kids in the 'in' crowd are doing. It's instant victim cred. It seems highly likely that anyone in that group who received a fake email would have plastered it all over twitter. Have any of them been waving emails from BHBH around? If not, then I have to doubt the scenario.
 
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ShinyStar said:
So the letter gets sent to a KickVicer to, say, take down a YouTube video or retract some tweets? I can see a certain kind of logic with that. Follow it through, though. Right now, the really cool thing to do if you're KickVic is to publish documents received from BHBH. That's what all the kids in the 'in' crowd are doing. It's instant victim cred. It seems highly likely that anyone in that group who received a fake email would have plastered it all over twitter. Have any of them been waving emails from BHBH around? If not, then I have to doubt the scenario.
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Apparently at least one party who received a fraudulent email asked or told BHBH about it - hence the announcement in the first place.
 
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some_crazy said:
Apparently at least one party who received a fraudulent email asked or told BHBH about it - hence the announcement in the first place.
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We don't have a timeline on whether the fake Nick email or the fake BHBH email was sent first, but it's possible that whoever contacted BHBH only did so after Nick made his fake email public.

Whoever did this is really playing with fire if they're within the US.
 
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So I know places like Twitter have no qualms on giving whatever info they have when the authorities get involved and that they save EVERYTHING. But I have no idea how well Discord deals with those kinds of requests. Does anyone know? I know the higher ups are filled with furry degenerates who have been covering people for years but I'd hope they play along when authorities get involved.
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Just tell them Vic is an alleged pedo. They'll circle the wagons. lol

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Emails are very easily forged. The only thing really telling you who sent an email is the 'From:' header, which is ridiculously easily forged. Any email server in the world can at any time send emails 'From: president@whitehouse.gov' and it will get sent just fine. There's some sanity checks email servers can do to look for very blatant forgeries, but it varies wildly in sophistication and accuracy between email services.

A common scam is to use a forged 'From: trustworthy@company.biz' and supply a real 'Reply-To: pajeet@indiamail.com' which causes your reply to automatically address the Reply-To instead of the From address. If someone is just trying to cause problems, they might not supply a Reply-To but might supply a real From hoping you don't respond to it and just react on it.
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Not even gonna lie: I would be genuinely impressed if anyone in KickVic were competent enough to exploit this. And bonus points if they didn't boomer it up by using their real IP address or CC-ing it to their internet fwiends to brag about.
 
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Another ethics report, I assume? Or someone silly enough to try to sue for 'doxxing' people by showing an address in a court document? Or was Nick selling bootleg moonshine out of his garage this whole time?

Edit: Judging by the date, I guess they meant the Buzzfeed gayops.
 
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Another ethics report, I assume? Or someone silly enough to try to sue for 'doxxing' people by showing an address in a court document? Or was Nick selling bootleg moonshine out of his garage this whole time?
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It could be literally anything but considering how Nick hasn't done anything legally wrong and only speculated procedures or posted online documents an ethic complaint wouldn't do much. The thing I can see is if someone on the ethic complaint payroll is a kickvicer and try's to pull some strings to temporarily suspend Nicks license due to an investigation (or something like that). We know how bad company's are so wouldn't be to hard to con someone in power who wants the "good PR."
 
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I don't...know how in the hell anyone would be on the side of faking letters from a lawfirm. This doesn't help anyone and in fact hurts everyone as lawyers aren't going to want to have to deal with sabotage that petty. This already is a toxic wasteland and any sane person in a debate would agree to put a stop to this, but we are dealing with loons. That's dangerous and can end up being phising and ruining someone's life by getting all their private information stolen. This isn't some silly game they think it is.

repentance said:
What an absolutely brilliant move publicly tying Greg Doucette to whatever gay ops happen and saying that he "encouraged" them is. Pure genius.
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I don't think Greg could damage his reputation more than it already has at this point so it's whatever. Not like he can get disbarred over this. From what Nick described, it's really difficult to do.
 
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What an absolutely brilliant move publicly tying Greg Doucette to whatever gay ops happen and saying that he "encouraged" them is. Pure genius.
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Considering the "tea" turned out to be fairly serious felonies, I wonder if any of the people boasting about them in advance would be asked some questions by some very humorless people with guns and badges.
 
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