Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

No, but seriously, most of us are talking about this KickVic thing in abstract and distant culture war terms. I've never met Vic. With Willingham, I have. It would erase any tiny bit of doubt in my mind that these people are deranged and doing it for social cred. They'd have to have exceptionally damning evidence in his case. Way more than the paltry shit they claim to have on Vic.

These people are disgusting.

Also, of course Shane hasn't seen FMA. Shane runs anime cons because he craves attention and power. He's not a fan, and has even admitted so here. It's all he has in his life. I'm glad I don't do anime cons anymore. People like him suck all the fun out of it.
 
Shane has shut up for the most part now. We actually managed to convert ReiBear to ISWV since today someone on Shane's server who's KV called her a "Nazi apologist" (sorry, don't know the full context on that one, but if someone is curious enough to know I can find out). But yeah Infection was nothing more than a giant, annoying, irritating pain in the ass the entire time he was there. He talked down to any female members of the server, acted like a sexist brat and had such wildly outlandish galaxy brained takes on shit I almost left myself. At least I got some satisfaction out of getting into voice chat with him to call him out on all his lies and tell him he's an ignorant hick ass nigger of a faggot. Yeah that didn't go over too well with him especially coming from a woman, but God damn did it feel good telling off that sack of shit. As an aside though his cock mongering little orbiter Master En is still there probably to do gay ops. God these faggots have a hard on for gay ops.
I'm still keeping tabs on Shane's discord, and this is apparently the drama with Rei. Also, Shane is definitely :madattheinternet:

Tl;dr of screenshots: Shane and others blasted rei for referring herself as Fuhrer (which is apparently an FMA reference), people are arguing about bringing families into this (mainly the pedo jabs at Shane) and everyone is sperging out oh my God I wanna minecraft myself
I suppose KickVic lost Rei now because of their immature antics towards her. The truth is revealed that KickVic won't hesitate to treat their own like shit in case they screw up.
 
I'm still keeping tabs on Shane's discord, and this is apparently the drama with Rei. Also, Shane is definitely :madattheinternet:

Tl;dr of screenshots: Shane and others blasted rei for referring herself as Fuhrer (which is apparently an FMA reference), people are arguing about bringing families into this (mainly the pedo jabs at Shane) and everyone is sperging out oh my God I wanna minecraft myself
I want to rate you dumb after that, because I felt dumber after reading it. Have an informative instead.

Like shit. Might have to go back into the hospital. Posting on an Android phone is also shit.
Since you're in the hospital, have them replace half your body mass with robotic parts and implant a Kiwi transmitter into your brain, so you can live KiwiFarms 24/7.

As Nick Rekeita takes a Matsuri break, I must thank him so much for changing my mind on the Vic situation.

The only info I ever got about the situation before he spoke about it was through Facebook. All the anime and con friends were rallying against Vic, saying how evil he was and remembering high school gossip they heard about him from 10 years ago and saying how only a dumb fangirl could deny the evidence. No one was on Vic's side and if they were, they weren't giving good comebacks. ("Oh my God he cried at this panel he can't be guilty")

There have always been a little hatedom towards Vic, and while I was kinda indifferent about him (liked him in FMA and whatnot, but he was a bit oversaturated,) none of the rumors seemed substantial. But 99 percent on my FB friends swore by it, so it wasn't really a hill I was about to die on.

Then Nick, who I was following since Maddox vs. Dick, spoke about it, and it definitely changed my mind.

I love my con friends and the con scene, but callout culture and witch hunting is definitely ruining it. I get wanting to protect people from creeps, but people will take rumors and run with it. Or be "too scared" to report a guy who they claimed raped them to the police, but not be scared enough to start a witch hunt. I've seen people just shit talk a predator instead of going through the legal process and it worries me how con people think cons are their own government or something.

I hope more common sense returns to the con world I guess. Sorry for the rambling introduction.
My more weeb acquaintances are mostly ignorant of the whole deal, mostly because they're sub watchers. Two closer friends of mine think the whole thing is bullshit.
 
Also, I want to share a story, in case I can't in the future.
Plz no dethflags.

Travis Willingham is legit cool. I was his PA at an anime con. All the stories about Vic being demanding don't even apply in his case. He asked for almost nothing. He invited me to dinner with himself, Coleen Clinkenbeard, and the con chair. He speaks glowingly about being punched in the face by Robert Duvall.
Yo I remember that story. Secondhand Lions, I think, and since Travis is kind of a big dude Duvall thought he was a stunt double and laid a punch into him.

EDIT: In case anyone's wondering what me and Manning are referring to.
 
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I know how y'all feel. I frequent the con scene, and are friends with many pro cosplayers and prop-builders who have helped me immeasurably with my own work over the years. Some I consider brothers and sisters and couldnt imagine life without them.

And yet... I am the ONLY one among them who ISNT KickVic. In fact, MOST of my friends, being fellow left-leaning persons, are pretty much KV by default as a matter of principle amongst this particular tribe of political and social thought (and just one of many reasons why I am getting more and more fed up with "liberals" with each passing day). Given their penchant for unreasonable, knee-jerk, emotion-laden, and politically charged rhetoric when it comes to this shit and other similar scenarios, I DARED not speak up about it when it started, and I sure as hell wont bring it up around them or on my visible postings nowadays given how much that movement has festered into complete lunacy who is quick to tar and feather ANYONE who doesnt completely tow the line, and as someone who has been brigaded against in the past and know what it's like to be on the receiving end of the torches and pitchforks, that is an uphill battle I simply dont have the willpower to fight anymore, even though I know in my heart that I should stop being a little chickenshit pussflap and stand up for whats right... and that kills me inside every day.

I only have about two or three friends who are ISWV, and others who either arent aware of this situation or they do and just dont give a shit. Either way, I only discuss this matter privately and even then try not to sperg out about the opposition too much because you never know if the neutral parties will flip and rat you out.

In the end, its just a really sad situation, and I hate what this all has done to communities who otherwise would have been united and happy together. I hate that it has really made me reevaluate people I admire when I see them airing their dirty laundry out on twitter and other outlets. I hate seeing people get attacked simply BECAUSE of what hashtag they use in their posts, even if what they say is out of sincere concern and not of malicious spite. I hate seeing individuals I admire and have had pleasant conversations with both online and at their booths at cons go full exceptional individual and make fucking assclowns out of themselves online and make me wonder why the hell I was ever a fan of theirs in the first place.

It's been a wild ride, and it is EXHAUSTING to keep up with (and I sincerely admire you all doing your part and fighting the good fight here on an hourly basis! I truly mean that), especially with all of the other recent tragedies that have broadsided me lately, but I still have my convictions, and until I see anything truly incriminating, I will stand by them.

As a bit of words to the wise, does it matter? I'm not trying to be an ass but if you and your friends stand on opposite sides that doesn't mean you can't be friends. I know KickVic people but we are not enemies at all. It's simply a disagreement. If that does affect your friendship, get the hell away from those people because they are way too obsessed about some random VA who people really seem to like getting warm hugs from. Dunno why, but they do. But it is sad, but you've gotta try to put the shit in the back of your mind and enjoy what you can out of anime. I mean DC Douglas voices a character in a game series I really enjoy but it's not going to keep me from buying it or playing it.

And the sad end result people don't seem to check in is that once this is all over no matter the outcome, things will go back to being insignificant and quiet until the next community drama pops up causing problems. Not at this scale, but you get the idea. I guarantee like half the fandom will forget about all of this once Vic is done with all the lawsuits to clear his name. And believe me, I am astonished by the stupidity of people. It's amazing how people who aren't fat get more offended by people calling fat people fat than the fat people themselves.

Oh I am SO glad I unsubscribed to that little bastard a while ago. Out of the YouTube talking heads on the ISWV side, he was by far the most insufferable.

Wait until the infighting comes back around again. I swear if Senpai becomes part of a cross platform war with the Kiwis, it'll top whatever Chambers did. If he's willing to talk to Shane, I'm sure this can happen.
 
As a bit of words to the wise, does it matter? I'm not trying to be an ass but if you and your friends stand on opposite sides that doesn't mean you can't be friends. I know KickVic people but we are not enemies at all. It's simply a disagreement. If that does affect your friendship, get the hell away from those people because they are way too obsessed about some random VA who people really seem to like getting warm hugs from. Dunno why, but they do. But it is sad, but you've gotta try to put the shit in the back of your mind and enjoy what you can out of anime. I mean DC Douglas voices a character in a game series I really enjoy but it's not going to keep me from buying it or playing it.

And the sad end result people don't seem to check in is that once this is all over no matter the outcome, things will go back to being insignificant and quiet until the next community drama pops up causing problems. Not at this scale, but you get the idea. I guarantee like half the fandom will forget about all of this once Vic is done with all the lawsuits to clear his name. And believe me, I am astonished by the stupidity of people. It's amazing how people who aren't fat get more offended by people calling fat people fat than the fat people themselves.



Wait until the infighting comes back around again. I swear if Senpai becomes part of a cross platform war with the Kiwis, it'll top whatever Chambers did. If he's willing to talk to Shane, I'm sure this can happen.

Bootylicious smacks the nail right on the head as to how I've been feeling. I'd agree to disagree with Vic with my con friends; I get why people hate him. But if I expressed a contrary opinion, at best, they'd ghost me. At worst, they would "cancel" me.
 
Bootylicious smacks the nail right on the head as to how I've been feeling. I'd agree to disagree with Vic with my con friends; I get why people hate him. But if I expressed a contrary opinion, at best, they'd ghost me. At worst, they would "cancel" me.
People who see this movement crap as something to destroy friendships over, harass someone's family over who aren't personally involved (with the exception of the Weidenheft brother, because the irony was just glorious) or just thinking it'll change your life is almost more retarded than the average thing Shane says. The only way people should properly see this situation for is little more than laughter and/or either seeing Vic bring proven innocent or guilty, nothing else.

I get sick of speds falling apart worse than a junkie in a mid-life crisis over this crap when they have little to no personal involvement in the grand scheme of things.
 
I suppose KickVic lost Rei now because of their immature antics towards her. The truth is revealed that KickVic won't hesitate to treat their own like shit in case they screw up.
Is that supposed to be the same Rei that's friends with Renfamous? In the screengrabs this Rei claims to not use twitter.
 
I trust Ty's judgement well above my own on this. I was just labeling what I'd do in that position. Ty knows much, much more than any of us and how that doesn't terrify them is beyond me. The biggest factor into his plan is obviously money which 200k is a lot but probably not much to work with for this many targets. I think Marzgurl is a good target especially going back to being vocal and a perfect centerpiece but maybe Ty found something better.

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Also, you give a guy some credit and then he turns around and goes full Greg Douchette on you.

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Hey Mike, Nick literally spends some livestreams reading the current law and explaining it in Layman's terms. If you watched the videos ignoring the rants (fan favorites) you'd probably see that instead of getting the info from shoe eaters.

I do like this response though:
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We might need to add this Mike guy to the Greg thread as he's almost as exceptional.
I suspect that half of the new crop of Twit&Er "lolwyers" with actual credentials, are just mad at Nick because he's exposing and showing up what's behind the curtain at the Wizard of Oz's ivory tower a.k.a. the U.S. court system, to the commoners. Just like when some jackass reveals the tricks behind the "magic", plenty of the guild mates are gonna be foaming at the mouth after being exposed as scum and slimy hacks.
 
Dont know about that. I would still put SGSami on the lowest tier of ISWV. Right above Perfection.

SGSami at least makes his vids short and doesn't have an unheathy boner for starting pointless slapfights. He brings misinfo (that he tries to cover his ass by saying 'rumor') but he's not trying to start wars with TFS or unironically cites OAG.
 
MarzGurl has no money; she's immune to getting sued. How can you punish a moneyless woman?
Her not having money doesn't make her immune; it means that she'll be stuck with liens on her property and either living with wrecked credit or having to declare bankruptcy.

At least I assume this is the case. I'm no expert.
 
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I do apologize if I go a bit TMI on this due to the Discord drama, but I will stepping back from the Farms for a while until I am ready to come back. I have very mixed thoughts on this. Plus as for Anime Matsuri starting April 13 (which is today) and ending on April 15, I do hope Vic and his friend Reuben - plus people that are attending there - will have a safe and good time over there.
 
I do apologize if I go a bit TMI on this due to the Discord drama, but I will stepping back from the Farms for a while until I am ready to come back. I have very mixed thoughts on this. Plus as for Anime Matsuri starting June 13 (which is today) and ending on June 15, I do hope Vic and his friend Reuben - plus people that are attending there - will have a safe and good time over there.
Fixed it for you. To mean what you meant.
 
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I suspect that half of the new crop of Twit&Er "lolwyers" with actual credentials, are just mad at Nick because he's exposing and showing up what's behind the curtain at the Wizard of Oz's ivory tower a.k.a. the U.S. court system, to the commoners. Just like when some jackass reveals the tricks behind the "magic", plenty of the guild mates are gonna be foaming at the mouth after being exposed as scum and slimy hacks.
I guess that makes Douchette the Uri Geller of this pack of morons. Who would want to hire any of these people? Unless they had cheap rates AND good material like Nick, like I might hire Popehat for instance if he were cheap since he doesn't seem as retarded as (((Cohen))) or Douchette or some of the others, why would you hire a lawyer more content to shitpost on Twitter. Especially Douchette whose legal work appears to mostly be that of a glorified public defender and just a way to give his retarded activism a platform, but even there I don't want my public defender screaming on Twitter to the tune of a few hundred posts a day. It's also pretty shit advertising for your legal work if you absolutely refuse to read the court documents or try and understand Texas law. Sure, take some potshots at the weirder parts, the legal system can be a joke at times, we all know it. But the ignorant approach these people take, refusal to accept the other side's argument, and flat out ignoring evidence really speaks volumes to the quality of your legal work.

Seems like if you're lawyer calls himself a super lawyer and posts on Law Twitter you should be looking elsewhere because you're probably getting ripped off for average at best legal work.
Her not having money doesn't make her immune; it means that she'll be stuck with liens on her property and either living with wrecked credit or having to declare bankruptcy.

At least I assume this is the case. I'm no expert.
Do you really think someone who crowd funds oil changes has good credit to begin with?
 
To people who are scared to be pro-Vic around their friends...

Grow some balls and let them know how you feel. They have their opinions, why cant you have yours? You're not unpersoning them because of their beliefs, so if they wanna do that to you, fuck em, you dont need them anyway.
 
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