Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[FROG]

Well it's lonely at the top, but word on the street is that you're a strong bottom even behind pizza parlors.

"UR GAY"

I guess I'll counter with NO U.

Donal is the guy who immediately got unpersoned from the industry because he refused to call Ya Boi a nazi for being mean. JDA is just butthurt Donal specifically doesn't like him because of that VoxDay shit

Donal got run through the mill pretty badly for that. That's actual bravery. When the other lemmings are timidly denouncing Diversity & Comics in order to not get canceled by creeps, and Donal went and listened for himself and came back with a "He's not so bad..."

He actually suffered for that. He deserves whatever we can give him in terms of promotion, and whatever success he earns.

I don't do this very often anymore, but I had a chat with JDA in private about it and tried to get him to understand that, and I think he does now.

 

[KingofNothing]

Donal got run through the mill pretty badly for that. That's actual bravery. When the other lemmings are timidly denouncing Diversity & Comics in order to not get canceled by creeps, and Donal went and listened for himself and came back with a "He's not so bad..."

He actually suffered for that. He deserves whatever we can give him in terms of promotion, and whatever success he earns.

I don't do this very often anymore, but I had a chat with JDA in private about it and tried to get him to understand that, and I think he does now.

Hopefully JDA gets that bee out of his bonnet, I thought he chilled out after that stream you both did with Nick. Donal did not deserve what he got for being what was at best, neutral. He also needs to get it out of his head that CG is a conservative movement, it's a consumer movement. Making it actively political makes him just as bad as the mainstream industry. Just make good comics, no one needs to know or should care if you're down Trump or Bernie.

 

[RockVolnutt]

So much for the tolerant left:
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These people are absolutely deranged:
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So uh...I know this is more of a movie thing but where did they ever get the idea that Riri would ever be whitewashed? In the sense of making her white, she probably will be whitewashed in the sense of making her origin less....."I stole shit".

I'm still hoping that Marvel and DC will smell the coffee soon.

All I want are good capeshit comics.

I hate what the MCU's done to Marvel. Now everything has to be quippy and all the heroes act like immature fratboys.

Poor Spider-Man. Most of his comics have him as an adult but he's eternally trapped by adaptations making him a high school kid again. That plus writers misunderstanding complaints about that and think by saying "Spider-Man should be more mature", you're saying he can't continue to have dumb jokes and annoy the hell out of people.

 

[Gee Willows Wilson!]

I'm still hoping that Marvel and DC will smell the coffee soon.

All I want are good capeshit comics.

I hate what the MCU's done to Marvel. Now everything has to be quippy and all the heroes act like immature fratboys.

Pretty much there for me. Before the MCU directly affected the comics with Whedonism I was okay with the MCU - they had some good ones, had some bad ones. But once all that bled through into the comics I started to get annoyed - it's too much... Everyone sounds the same, everyone just quips in the face of danger and most of them can't even get hurt anymore... Wolverine and others like him just regen in a matter of panels, so why should I be concerned for them?

The movies are the same, that's why I appreciate the movies where it's not a world ending plot or their most dangerous villain. Keep the single films low enough stakes and the big team ups for the larger shit... Look at the recent X-Men films. There's four in the new continuity: First Class. DAYS OF FUTURE PAST, APOCOLYPSE, DARK PHOENIX and they all end in one film... Exciting.

Poor Spider-Man. Most of his comics have him as an adult but he's eternally trapped by adaptations making him a high school kid again. That plus writers misunderstanding complaints about that and think by saying "Spider-Man should be more mature", you're saying he can't continue to have dumb jokes and annoy the hell out of people.

This is the saddest part. People can't write Spider-Man well anymore - with some exceptions of course. Most just write him as a bumbling retard. Parker was competent but quippy and that doesn't equate to just saying dumb shit like

Spoiler: Marvel Team up

Context: Parker and Khan changed bodies. It gets worse, believe it or not.
And let's not forget the time Parker completely cucked out to Bobbi Morse and slept on the couch when he was dating the woman.
Parker has been fucked up the most, but I can't even think back to the time when it started.

 

[Pumpkin Girl IRL]

The most confusing part of all this is why a comic about a cyborg frog is deemed interesting.

 

[damian]

Pretty much there for me. Before the MCU directly affected the comics with Whedonism I was okay with the MCU - they had some good ones, had some bad ones. But once all that bled through into the comics I started to get annoyed - it's too much... Everyone sounds the same, everyone just quips in the face of danger and most of them can't even get hurt anymore... Wolverine and others like him just regen in a matter of panels, so why should I be concerned for them?

The movies are the same, that's why I appreciate the movies where it's not a world ending plot or their most dangerous villain. Keep the single films low enough stakes and the big team ups for the larger shit... Look at the recent X-Men films. There's four in the new continuity: First Class. DAYS OF FUTURE PAST, APOCOLYPSE, DARK PHOENIX and they all end in one film... Exciting.


This is the saddest part. People can't write Spider-Man well anymore - with some exceptions of course. Most just write him as a bumbling exceptional individual. Parker was competent but quippy and that doesn't equate to just saying dumb shit like

Spoiler: Marvel Team up

Context: Parker and Khan changed bodies. It gets worse, believe it or not.
And let's not forget the time Parker completely cucked out to Bobbi Morse and slept on the couch when he was dating the woman.
Parker has been fucked up the most, but I can't even think back to the time when it started.

Slott made him into says ‘bad jokes while punching you’-Man and generally ran his personality through the ground. When Slott’s version of Peter talks about responsibility, it honestly feels so hollow, like “ah here I should put something about ‘great power = great responsibility’, also a fart joke lol”.

I’ve heard good things from the current (Spencer) run, lot of praise, but they come from a guy that is a die-hard Spider-Man fanboy. He praises specific panels and doesnt judge the book in its entirety so I don't actually know how good his recommendations are.

 

[Gee Willows Wilson!]

Slott made him into says ‘bad jokes while punching you’-Man and generally ran his personality through the ground. When Slott’s version of Peter talks about responsibility, it honestly feels so hollow, like “ah here I should put something about ‘great power = great responsibility’, also a fart joke lol”.

I’ve heard good things from the current (Spencer) run, lot of praise, but they come from a guy that is a die-hard Spider-Man fanboy. He praises specific panels and doesnt judge the book in its entirety so I don't actually know how good his recommendations are.

Slott, that's who I was thinking of, I honestly forgot his name.

Spencer has been good, and Zdarsky's little generational run is pretty good too - though I wish it lasted longer. One issue is one decade and I'd like at least two to three for each decade.

Eve Ewing is doing the Kamala Parker teamup and it honestly shows that she's really up to date on the 'lol so randem' comic style MARVEL loves lately.

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

The most confusing part of all this is why a comic about a cyborg frog is deemed interesting.

Want some existential horror? Contemplate why a cyborg frog is more interesting than almost anything Marvel or DC puts out recently.

(I say 'almost', because, no offense @FROG, I think Immortal Hulk is a solid title. Sadly, it's just ONE title in the pile of trash that is Marvel.)

 

[Pumpkin Girl IRL]

Yeah, I probably should point out my exposure to comics is from the MCU and DCU films. Seeing people go nuts over "he's a frog, but a robot" confuses me a bit.

 

[RockVolnutt]

Slott made him into says ‘bad jokes while punching you’-Man and generally ran his personality through the ground. When Slott’s version of Peter talks about responsibility, it honestly feels so hollow, like “ah here I should put something about ‘great power = great responsibility’, also a fart joke lol”.

I’ve heard good things from the current (Spencer) run, lot of praise, but they come from a guy that is a die-hard Spider-Man fanboy. He praises specific panels and doesnt judge the book in its entirety so I don't actually know how good his recommendations are.

Slott, that's who I was thinking of, I honestly forgot his name.

Spencer has been good, and Zdarsky's little generational run is pretty good too - though I wish it lasted longer. One issue is one decade and I'd like at least two to three for each decade.

Eve Ewing is doing the Kamala Parker teamup and it honestly shows that she's really up to date on the 'lol so randem' comic style MARVEL loves lately.

I was more trying to say that Spider-Man got the whole "tainted by adaptations giving the wrong impression" earlier than the rest. OMD and Slott could be were it started in the regular comics comics but you had adaptations like Ultimate, the Raimi movie, various cartoons etc. which feature younger Peters as they center around his origin and thus assume he's always some kid in a suit, If you asked a random person off the street, they would probably be confused if you told them that Spider-Man is pushing 30 in the comics and hasn't been in high school since the 1960s.

Imagine if Dick Grayson was the only Robin and due to adaptations depicting him as such, he's eternally strangled by it as Nightwing since they need to make him recongizable to the people who see him solely as Batman's kid sidekick.

 

[Starscreams Cape]

Yeah, I probably should point out my exposure to comics is from the MCU and DCU films. Seeing people go nuts over "he's a frog, but a robot" confuses me a bit.

We're in a time when you can legitimately say "he/she might be a hero, but is also a complete cuck/asshole/SJW" for a good 80-90% of the trash being pushed out by the big companies. Something a bit different is bound to be at least a little intriguing.

And regardless of how you feel about the story, the book may be worth it just to look at the pictures. The ones released so far have been pretty stunning.

 

[Puddleduck]

What is Rainbow Brute a reference to? I know a lot of old cartoons, but not all of them!

 

[Love Soze]

What is Rainbow Brute a reference to? I know a lot of old cartoons, but not all of them!

Rainbow Brite

EDIT: I can't believe there is no picture on that wiki. Here she is:

Here is Rainbro Brute:

 

[Charlie Delicious]

What is Rainbow Brute a reference to? I know a lot of old cartoons, but not all of them!

Rainbow Brite

 

[RockVolnutt]

Though the world Rainbow Brute lives in sounds like it's some kind of composite of "girl" cartoons from the 80s so it's not like the whole thing is from one source.

 

[Love Soze]

Though the world Rainbow Brute lives in sounds like it's some kind of composite of "girl" cartoons from the 80s so it's not like the whole thing is from one source.

The world of Rainbro Brute is a composite, I believe. Care to clarify, @FROG?

 

[damian]

 

[FROG]

The world of Rainbro Brute is a composite, I believe. Care to clarify, @FROG?

It's a composite, made up of 80's Girl Toy pop culture, reimagined for boys.

 

[Puddleduck]

Is Letterer still a job for tradition sake? Is it still done by hand? I'd have thought it would be easier for the writer and/or artist to directly type the lines in.

Do Letterers generally have any creative input?

 

[FROG]

Is Letterer still a job for tradition sake? Is it still done by hand? I'd have thought it would be easier for the writer and/or artist to directly type the lines in.

Do Letterers generally have any creative input?

Letterers work almost entirely digitally now. And sure, they have creative input in how they do word balloons and fonts, etc. The letterer on CYBERFROG BLOODHONEY put his own spin on everything. The characters are mostly aliens, and he interpreted my script with colors, fonts, and balloons in a very unique way.