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Cohen's propping up a shell of an argument to enable super lawyers to fleece Moronica more thoroughly. There's blood in the water and the sharks are circling. The entire argument Cohen is making is a feint, partly designed to bait out Nick's anger. It's working to some extent. Nick can't help but assume good faith, to my chagrin. Maybe the cursory arguing he's doing isn't hurting... IDK. This whole thing reeks to high heaven of bait.

I've lightly sparred with this Cohen on Twitter before. Was irritated by him enough to make an "INVISIBLE YARMULKE" Impact-font image macro over his smug mug. I wish I remembered what we argued about; I only generally engage if I see bare-faced ignorance, so engaging is a sign of disrepute.
 
Comparing lawsuits to art is pretty fucking stupid.

I disagree. Specifically, you could argue a lawsuit or the law in general is much like a pointillist painting. Each individual part comes together to make a greater whole. Sure, you can focus in on how just one dot contributes to a portrait but that doesn't negate the fact that there are still thousands of other dots contributing to the same picture.

Anyway, Cohen is short sighted and is finger painting with the law. Ty, in the meantime, is constructing his greatest masterpiece yet.

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Casey didn't explicitly promise the judge anything. The court cannot restrain him from doing something he's legally entitled to do - and he's legally entitled to file any time before the new deadline.



It's a couple of weeks since they first mentioned having a third lawyer. That he's now being introduced to the court probably has more to do with the deadline for filing a TCPA approaching than anything else.
That is correct to a point, If the Judge questioned and changed the date the TCPA (he extended that filing date) to accommodate the Depositions (discovery phase) and the defendants depose the plaintiff and then file a TCPA Motion, I'm seeing a pissed off judge, who slaps it down for one reason, he was accommodating to the defendants, and now again, we see them abusing the discovery process. If they go down this route, I believe it will end poorly real quick, and, once it hits the jury, is brought to their attention the abuses being played out.

except, dipshit, there's a public court record of casey agreeing ie promising to uphold a rule 11 agreement. while its not hammered out between attorneys, the basis of it is "all parties deposed, then you can file tcpa". and the judge is operating under the assumption that casey will honor it. he doesn't? good luck explaining why he decided to break a deal he had with the court and ty and why he's still not a total shitbag.

after that it won't matter what the judge can or can't do. Casey's freebies? gone. all filings from then on better be sound, ethical, and pristinely formatted because the judge is going to do him no favors anymore and depending on how much he takes the deal-breaking personally, will absolutely toss out anything less than perfect.
We have to remember look at the transcript, the judge adjusted the filing date for the TCPA, He accommodated the defendants, he set the dates for Deposition, he even ordered that the depositions be held in his courthouse in case there were any questions. If the defense were to play a TCPA game after this judge did that, I'd hate to be standing in the defenses shoes when they get rolled into the courtroom to face this judge and have to explain why they are trying to abuse the discovery process. But Branded your dead on right! Oh and we have to remember casey's last uttereances after the hearing was closed.. "That isn't going to work for us"
 
That is correct to a point, If the Judge questioned and changed the date the TCPA (he extended that filing date) to accommodate the Depositions (discovery phase) and the defendants depose the plaintiff and then file a TCPA Motion, I'm seeing a pissed off judge, who slaps it down for one reason, he was accommodating to the defendants, and now again, we see them abusing the discovery process. If they go down this route, I believe it will end poorly real quick, and, once it hits the jury, is brought to their attention the abuses being played out.
I don’t know if he could immediately reject it, but he could still make Ron and Monica be deposed.
 
The first is stupid. I believe (or have been lead to from previous discussion here) that Texas has some reasonable laws in place to protect people from becoming destitute from a judgement against them. However, I don't know if those rules extend to protecting someone from a lawyer they owe a lot of money to coming after them.

The second is a tactic that might work if they have at least as much money as Vic. However from the exceptional way in which they and their lawyer been conducting themselves so far, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up getting sanctioned and paying part of Vic's costs. Remember that they asked for a Jury. Look at the Oberlin case where the Jury awarded legal fees as damages as well. MoRonica aren't looking any better than the batch of idiots at Oberlin that played stupid games.
1. If I am correct, a judicial lien goes on them and Texas has a whopper...A judgment lien is a court-ordered arrangement in which the creditor (the person who won the judgment) can place a lien on the debtor’s (the person who owes the money) property to ensure that he or she gets what the debtor owes. A judgment lien on real property in Texas means that if the debtor cannot pay up, the creditor has the right to sell the property and use money from the proceeds to fulfill the judgment.

No no no they TOTALLY can. Dont worry shane if you are reading this and you gave them that advice, it is TOTALLY legit. Dont let the haters on KF tell you otherwise. It will not provide entertainment for the farms and the judge will take their side for sure.
Oh I hope that is a true statement by them. When the judge is questioning Casey, he is not only speaking to Casey, he is addressing the defense. If a lead on the case speaks, that is the position of the defenses team. The old, "I had my fingers crossed behind my back" defense doesn't work.

I don’t know if he could immediately reject it, but he could still make Ron and Monica be deposed.
Right I was saying in the scenario, they motion a TCPA immediately after vic is deposed. This Judge has kept the door open for TCPA, but I believe he wants the deposition process to go forward unabated.

Yep, it is. The deep pocketed one pays the judgement and the other parties have to work it out later.
Which is why Funi should be talking and distancing themselves if they were smart. Hey, make a deal, bring vic back. make a statement "we acted harshly" pay a small compensation and seal the deal. Slam that door on Moron and marchi
 
I disagree. Specifically, you could argue a lawsuit or the law in general is much like a pointillist painting. Each individual part comes together to make a greater whole. Sure, you can focus in on how just one dot contributes to a portrait but that doesn't negate the fact that there are still thousands of other dots contributing to the same picture.

Anyway, Cohen is short sighted and is finger painting with the law. Ty, in the meantime, is constructing his greatest masterpiece yet.

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You can also think of it like engineering. The regular person will have no idea why some things are constructed the way they are, and they make think it looks silly, but that part very likely has a specific purpose that the designing engineer put thought into. Another engineer may even look at it and think it looks silly, but unless they're familiar with the entire process of that design, they may not know why it really isn't silly. The big difference between engineering and law, which Ty has actually mentioned in a stream before, is that a rule in engineering is a specific and narrow description of reality. In law, a rule is something with wiggle room, because human judgment is involved.
 
Which is why Funi should be talking and distancing themselves if they were smart. Hey, make a deal, bring vic back. make a statement "we acted harshly" pay a small compensation and seal the deal. Slam that door on Moron and marchi

While Funi could do that, the question is how beneficial it would be to Vic. If he settles with Funi for a small amount, he may then ultimately be left with a judgment against the others which they cannot realistically pay.
 
While Funi could do that, the question is how beneficial it would be to Vic. If he settles with Funi for a small amount, he may then ultimately be left with a judgment against the others which they cannot realistically pay.
They could always potentially settle for roughly half or so of the asking and then guarantee him some contracts that would be sure to get him the other remainder of the asking damages. I mean the other 3 parties would still be on the hook for the money not settled by funi, but this would ensure vic gets what he needs to continue going.

I do not view vic as the kind of dude to half ass his roles just because he would be guaranteed some contracts since he actually loves his fans.

edit: Vic honestly seems like he finds joy in working, and not just the paycheck. That would be why I mentioned a few guaranteed contracts(in which then funi can cut ties after fulfilled if they so desire)
 
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