Artcow Michael John Kricfalusi / John Kricfalusi / John K. / John K. Stuff / Raymond Spum - scammer animator who pissed away his own career, salty blogger, CONFIRMED predator and child rapist

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Sweet jesus, I think it's like the Nostalgia Critic; people have started to realize that no, that's not supposed to be stylistic suck, it's just plain shitty.

Thank god for whoever else worked on ren and stimpy, because you can just imagine how fugly and unwatchable everything would've been if he'd been the only one around.

I'm generally of the opinion that John likely once had talent but he washed it away in booze induced brain damage over the years given he's such an enormous alcoholic. He's probably had so many benders that he's become less functional in day to day life too, and anytime he gets frustrated with his unwieldy motor functions, he goes straight to the bottle to cope with his crumbling nervous system, further compounding his damage.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

So what were the details of what it's like to work with Kricfalusi anyway? I heard about him throwing a guy down a stairwell before but I'm more curious about the day to day.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

So what were the details of what it's like to work with Kricfalusi anyway? I heard about him throwing a guy down a stairwell before but I'm more curious about the day to day.

I'd love to know that too. But I assume he was "nicer" to most of his female staff than his male staff. I know that when working on Mighty Mouse, Bakshi kept firing and re-hiring him to the point that both men just flat out forgot when John was fired or not.

 

[mr dink]

Wait, Sandra Rivas? Hasn’t she worked for Studio Yotta for the last few years? How did she get roped into something with John K?

If you look at Sandra's art going waay back, it is very clear she is inspired by John K and Katie Rice's art. I do believe that her working on Cans back then gave her a visibility boost amongst internet animators at the time (ie newgrounds people) and a lot of Studio Yotta is ex-Newgrounders. How she got in contact with him...dunno, she is a cute girl who aped his art style, guess it just caught his eye.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

So what were the details of what it's like to work with Kricfalusi anyway? I heard about him throwing a guy down a stairwell before but I'm more curious about the day to day.

To put it simply, you would not want to work with him at all.

Voice actors having to do a hundred takes of one scream. People having to make fifty different versions of one background prop because he didn't like the color. Entire sequences sent back to be reanimated at the last minute. Teenage animators paid $200 a month, if you get paid at all.

There's a reason no one wanted to work with him before the pedophile accusations.

I'd love to know that too. But I assume he was "nicer" to most of his female staff than his male staff. I know that when working on Mighty Mouse, Bakshi kept firing and re-hiring him to the point that both men just flat out forgot when John was fired or not.

That was Eddie Fitzgerald. Bakshi fired him, Eddie said he had a family to support, and so Bakshi rehired him. Then, when Eddie came in the next day, Ralph said: "Didn't I fire you? Get the hell out!"

 

[Tragi-Chan]

To put it simply, you would not want to work with him at all.

Voice actors having to do a hundred takes of one scream. People having to make fifty different versions of one background prop because he didn't like the color. Entire sequences sent back to be reanimated at the last minute. Teenage animators paid $200 a month, if you get paid at all.

There's a reason no one wanted to work with him before the pedophile accusations.

Shame he wasn’t such a perfectionist about Cans Without Labels.

 

[Tlazolli]

Shame he wasn’t such a perfectionist about Cans Without Labels.

That’s because John had to do the animation himself instead of just screaming to some poor animators that their stuff wasn’t up to his “standards”

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Teenage animators paid $200 a month, if you get paid at all.

Isn't that shit lawsuit worthy?

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

Isn't that shit lawsuit worthy?

Ostensibly, but nobody ever seems to have sued him. And there are a lot of people who'd do that. There are studios who've worked on APC who still, all these years later, haven't been paid.

 

[AnOminous]

Ostensibly, but nobody ever seems to have sued him. And there are a lot of people who'd do that. There are studios who've worked on APC who still, all these years later, haven't been paid.

Probably they're just so disgusted by him they'd rather do without their money than spend even one more minute in the same room as him.

 

[LordofCringe7206]

I'm generally of the opinion that John likely once had talent but he washed it away in booze induced brain damage over the years given he's such an enormous alcoholic. He's probably had so many benders that he's become less functional in day to day life too, and anytime he gets frustrated with his unwieldy motor functions, he goes straight to the bottle to cope with his crumbling nervous system, further compounding his damage.

If I had to use a metaphor to describe John's talent, it would be a food dish that requires a strainer. He has some good ideas and potential, but he requires help refining in it in order for it to reach acceptable heights.

 

[Adamska]

If I had to use a metaphor to describe John's talent, it would be a food dish that requires a strainer. He has some good ideas and potential, but he requires help refining in it in order for it to reach acceptable heights.

At this point I disagree; he is that cunt who basically can't make a good product unless every one does it for him, and even then half the time he renders the process less efficient, less effective, and drives the talent away.

John K. is a fucking conman with some ability to cash what his mouth cashed in who got lucky in life and pissed it away.

 

[AnOminous]

At this point I disagree; he is that cunt who basically can't make a good product unless every one does it for him, and even then half the time he renders the process less efficient, less effective, and drives the talent away.

John K. is a fucking conman with some ability to cash what his mouth cashed in who got lucky in life and pissed it away.

I think the time has passed for any of us who used to admire this guy at all to make excuses for him. The fact is we just (well those of us who did fall for his bullshit) got taken by his bullshit auteur act even though he never really had the talent to claim such a status. He isn't that case of an asshole who was also super talented enough to forgive what an asshole he was. He was always just an asshole.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

I think the time has passed for any of us who used to admire this guy at all to make excuses for him. The fact is we just (well those of us who did fall for his bullshit) got taken by his bullshit auteur act even though he never really had the talent to claim such a status. He isn't that case of an asshole who was also super talented enough to forgive what an asshole he was. He was always just an asshole.

John got by on people's love of Ren and Stimpy and his narrative about being fired from a heartless corporation for a long time. Everyone was thinking he was going to produce something as good as R&S someday. Now it's nearly 30 years later. He hasn't, and he never will. At some point you just have to acknowledge the truth.

 

[AnOminous]

John got by on people's love of Ren and Stimpy and his narrative about being fired from a heartless corporation for a long time. Everyone was thinking he was going to produce something as good as R&S someday. Now it's nearly 30 years later. He hasn't, and he never will. At some point you just have to acknowledge the truth.

And more importantly, R&S being good in the first place was mostly the work of other people.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

And more importantly, R&S being good in the first place was mostly the work of other people.

Other people who keep working in animation to this day, mind you.

 

[bloohued]

I think this is the most accurate way to summarize the whole Cans Without Labels thing.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

I think this is the most accurate way to summarize the whole Cans Without Labels thing.

Robert Crumb getting cracked in the eye by the butt of a shotgun?

 

[bloohued]

Robert Crumb getting cracked in the eye by the butt of a shotgun?

No, it was supposed to be John K. getting hit with a can opener.

 

[Tlazolli]

John got by on people's love of Ren and Stimpy and his narrative about being fired from a heartless corporation for a long time. Everyone was thinking he was going to produce something as good as R&S someday. Now it's nearly 30 years later. He hasn't, and he never will. At some point you just have to acknowledge the truth.

Basically John K has never been good and is nothing other than an untalented rapist hack with weird daddy issues. Was Mr. Kricfalusi bad enough as a father to warrant the creation of a man as repulsive John K? Or was John just born shit?