ANTIFA / Antifascist Action / Antifaschistische Aktion - The anti-fascist gang with fascist tendencies

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

Nice dodge, but you're still wrong in pretending that scanning for biased and deceptive reporting is the same as scanning for wrongthink.

Your red herrings won't fly with me.

I'm saying that when you want to argue that an article is biased, you should base it on something more than self-professed over-analysis of word choices that are MCOM101.

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

I realize I'm going back to the well on this pack of exceptional fucks, but I want to let everyone bask in the blazing exceptionalism found in the juxtaposition of these 2 comments found there -

If you don't have ICE, and USBCP, you don't have a country to "be proud of", not that I think any of these middle-class larpers have an iota of pride in the USA.

And jesus christ, this fuck needs to move back to whatever sister-fucking, knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing trailer park he came from and stop larping as a fucking commie, because his first 2 points are referring to shit that predates the Trump Administration, and none of it actually defines a "fascist government." Why are these people so fucking exceptional?

Spoiler: His subscribers are even dumber

 

[Absorbed]

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When I read "I grew up under the authoritarian regime" I was thinking I might actually feel a little bad and xir is gonna be from some authoritarian country, only to be disappointed.

Also you'd think people like this would be able to introspect and realize that even white woman from seemingly ok material conditions can have a pretty shitty life and why all the umbrella terms like privilege are useless and only antagonize people, but I highly doubt this is going to be the case.

More from the AntiFa reddit, and naturally, it's fucking wrong -
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I'm generally ok with people making their own interpretations of movies based on their own experiences but having this horseshit as a universal truth spammed by automod makes me laugh.

Funnily enough, both the gay man who wrote the source material and the movie's director said the movie is more about consumerism, sterile nature of comfortable middle class life and the loss of "traditional masculinity" in these systems and the affect it has on men who then seek thrills elsewhere, because they can't find meaning in their comfortable lives. I've seen people criticize the way the movie presented these themes and that's fine, but that's basically what the movie is supposed to be about, straight from the authors.

This description, when you think about it, could probably be applied to many Antifa members, but I highly doubt any of them have enough self awareness to see it. Not to mention that I doubt Antifa members that actually march in the streets hang out in Antifa subreddit.

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

I'm saying that when you want to argue that an article is biased, you should base it on something more than self-professed over-analysis of word choices that are MCOM101.

You mean how they're presenting the information, and spinning and framing the situations which is what the poster was actually analyzing?

You are still being disingenuous, to the point of outright lying.

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

Which one of you fuckers is trolling the AntiFa reddit?



Fucking speds, I swear to christ.

• LeftCannotMeme.Jpg
• Reee, we need the gov't to control social media, because people disagree with us!
• Reee, we need the gov't to control social media, because people disagree with us! Pt le deux
• We're going to keep pounding this facile and inaccurate claim into the dirt, until the term is worthless, like every other term we misuse
• We're mad that people aren't rushing to join us, and everyone on the left that doesn't join us gets a bullet!

Can I get an X in the chat, from all the people doubting that condemnation?



See, this is why I press X to doubt a single one of these larping pukes has any "pride in the USA".

 

[YikNemoShmoall]

I like how you admit you're carefully scanning the article for any sign of wrongthink and then conclude that it's propaganda. Also "crypto-anything" is usually bullshit, especially in the modern news climate where not wearing your bias on your sleeve is seen as a detriment.

Not really. I was curious how a MSM outlet that I am familiar with would respond to what was a obviously reprehensible act where the perpetrators were 'almost' on their side against someone against them but also 'them' (i.e. a conservative journalist). Yes I may have carefully scanned it for bias but I never concluded it was propaganda. I made up the term crptoantifash (probably not the first person to) because of how cryptofash is being used to call out/denigrate more people, widen the net on what is 'nazi' and target and fear shadows. It was meant as an unfunny joke so I guess on some level - autistic.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

They are referring to Heather Clark who was knocked out at the Cider Riot as you can see here:

https://twitter.com/mrandyngo/status/1124137746501496834?lang=en

This is what Antifa hates Ngo for, they consider his naming her in this tweet doxing.

As to whether her neck was broken that seems unlikely. Ngo indicates that there was a GoFundMe, but there was no evidence of a police or hospital report.

Just a name? Is every reporter guilty of doxing, then? They made it sound like he was releasing addresses and phone numbers or something substantial.

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

Not really. I was curious how a MSM outlet that I am familiar with would respond to what was a obviously reprehensible act where the perpetrators were 'almost' on their side against someone against them but also 'them' (i.e. a conservative journalist). Yes I may have carefully scanned it for bias but I never concluded it was propaganda. I made up the term crptoantifash (probably not the first person to) because of how cryptofash is being used to call out/denigrate more people, widen the net on what is 'nazi' and target and fear shadows. It was meant as an unfunny joke so I guess on some level - autistic.

IE. - This completely exceptional thread in /rAntifascistsofReddit, where they're trying to call Sargon of a Stepdad a fucking cryptofascist in the FIRST comment to a question about over- and misuse of labels that renders the labels useless.

Just a name? Is every reporter guilty of doxing, then? They made it sound like he was releasing addresses and phone numbers or something substantial.

Private citizens are allowed to post known information about individuals of interest to the public, and journalists definitely have that prerogative, within the strictures of the relevant Code of Ethics.

 

[Spongeknob Squarenuts]

I browsed twitter for around 5 minutes and I already saw blue check marks:

-saying the attack was staged
-claiming the cement milkshakes are a hoax that the police is in on
-trying to justify the assault because of random right wing attacks that are unrelated to this incident
-claiming that ANTIFA was provoked
-justifying the assault by saying that he isn’t a journalist
-and of course, calling a bunch of people fascists

These are the same people who always talk about “right wing violence and false flag conspiracies” whenever a nut job does something violent. It seems like the same thing doesn’t apply when it’s one of their guys though.

These people almost made me go full doomer until I remembered that they’re just a clique of ideologies.

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

I want a fucking explanation how a socialist figures they'll be able to support social programs and the whole "to each their due" meme, without taxation.
Seriously, I think these guys need a community watch-thread, because it's fucking magical.

Spoiler: Anonymous omegle logs prove existence of muh nero-nazis

Omegle chat log

logs.omegle.com

 

[GethN7]

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I want a fucking explanation how a socialist figures they'll be able to support social programs and the whole "to each their due" meme, without taxation.
Seriously, I think these guys need a community watch-thread, because it's fucking magical.

Most of these idiots, if you forced them sum up what they believe in a few words as possible, would usually identify their beliefs as "anarco-communism".

The two concepts are inherent contradictions, and hence their entire system of belief is based on magic beans and crack.

Anarchism rejects any form of organized government or law, the world is a Mad Max-like world where we all choose our own law, it is not imposed from without, with or without a common consensus of any kind.

Communism is a society where individual rights are sublimated for the good the community, hence the name, therefore all society does is to the benefit of the communal benefit.

Now try to reconcile the two concepts, and I think you will begin to understand the severe amount of delusion and cognitive dissonance these people exist in.

 

[Spongeknob Squarenuts]

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I want a fucking explanation how a socialist figures they'll be able to support social programs and the whole "to each their due" meme, without taxation.
Seriously, I think these guys need a community watch-thread, because it's fucking magical.

I think they want it to be some kind of collectively enforced thing where mobs go around and redistribute money all the time. If antifa is anything to go off of they’re fine with theft and violence as long as it’s not the government that doing it. Mob rule basically.

 

[Dracula's Spirit Animal]

I don't think you really will ever get that. If you read the Solzy in one of his boring books about the gulags, not the fun ones about the jews, he describes devout party members in the gulag continuing on with their delusions. One mother even wrote to her children and told them to denounce her for better lives, such was her faith in the soviet government.

I always cringe at people talking about centrism. If we are absolutely honest, everyone wants the state (or some other actor) to violently enforce their views. America has reached a point where the left and right have deep rooted irreconcilable differences and at this point the only healthy way to end this is to have a civil war and allow the winner to take all or break apart the country. I don't think the Left is particularly interested in allowing the right to break off or secede, so we'll just have a nice big war over it.

I for one cannot wait for it all to be over.

The interesting thing to me is that the right was a reaction, the Left created the modern white nationalist movement. They could stop at anytime with the 'progress' and try reconciliation but it'll just keep going until it breaks.

Fuck man. You're such an accelerationist, I'm really beginning to think you might be a fed.

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

Most of these idiots, if you forced them sum up what they believe in a few words as possible, would usually identify their beliefs as "anarco-communism".

The two concepts are inherent contradictions, and hence their entire system of belief is based on magic beans and crack.

Anarchism rejects any form of organized government or law, the world is a Mad Max-like world where we all choose our own law, it is not imposed from without, with or without a common consensus of any kind.

Communism is a society where individual rights are sublimated for the good the community, hence the name, therefore all society does is to the benefit of the communal benefit.

Now try to reconcile the two concepts, and I think you will begin to understand the severe amount of delusion and cognitive dissonance these people exist in.

I think they want it to be some kind of collectively enforced thing where mobs go around and redistribute money all the time. If antifa is anything to go off of they’re fine with theft and violence as long as it’s not the government that doing it. Mob rule basically.

@GethN7 basically summed up what I was suggesting - the overwhelming majority of these dolts are mired in doublethink and cognitive dissonance, and genuinely believe that humans can magically become a non-competitive, intrinsically and universally generous species, without any kind of self-serving altruism, and we'll all just live without hierarchy. We can't, and it's entirely because hierarchy, competitiveness, and self-interested altruism translate to genetic success - if you're smart enough to rescue the neighbouring tribe from starvation by "donating" excess food you have, you are more likely to impress upon them your viability as a producer and protector of their daughters.

All the shit they talk about "deconstructing", whether it's hierarchy, colonialism, patriarchy, or whatever, it's shit that's basically built into our evolutionary success, and these people are all colossal failures. They don't have any choice but to hope they can get enough failures together to reenact Harrison Bergeron, because they're all Participation Trophy Winners, with zero actual capacity to succeed, under their own steam.

 

[Vitoze]

Fuck man. You're such an accelerationist, I'm really beginning to think you might be a fed.

I can out myself on other places if you'd like, it was bound to happen anyway. I'm less of a fed and more of a pessimism poster. I don't think going out and doing anything near these people is anywhere close to realistic.

I will say I think the right is going to lose hard in the future. I don't think anything can be done about that.

 

[GethN7]

I can out myself on other places if you'd like, it was bound to happen anyway. I'm less of a fed and more of a pessimism poster. I don't think going out and doing anything near these people is anywhere close to realistic.

I will say I think the right is going to lose hard in the future. I don't think anything can be done about that.

The political pendulum always swings one way or the other at different times, so it has since the dawn of organized political thought.

So long as the pendulum does not swing so far in one direction or the other utter madness and chaos is the only result, it's bearable, it can be changed.

ANTIFA is conniving at their own destruction, and I have no doubt their ideological opposites will one day destroy themselves with their hubris too, and thus the cycle will continue.

 

[Particle Bored]

Guardian journalist Jason Wilson(@jason_a_w) at the protest...the fuck did this bong drink the chemical shake???

He was also seen wearing the same gloves that were in the Ngo beating video.

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I don't know who Jason Wilson is, but that's a pic of Luis Marquez, one of the Portland Antifag pied pipers.

 

[SmileyTimeDayCare]

I don't know who Jason Wilson is, but that's a pic of Luis Marquez, one of the Portland Antifag pied pipers.

Oh? Someone mislabeled I will edit my post.

 

[Vitoze]

The political pendulum always swings one way or the other at different times, so it has since the dawn of organized political thought.

So long as the pendulum does not swing so far in one direction or the other utter madness and chaos is the only result, it's bearable, it can be changed.

ANTIFA is conniving at their own destruction, and I have no doubt their ideological opposites will one day destroy themselves with their hubris too, and thus the cycle will continue.

I don't believe in pendulum theory, I buy into Evola's postulations on the hindu cycles. that is to say that civilization will be entirely destroyed before things get better. I think this is a microcosm of this. But I don't think things will improve for a long time.

The early NRxers, like moldbug, observed that for the past 500 years ago civilization has been moving steadily leftwards, in some sense, and I tend to agree with that.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Guardian journalist Jason Wilson(@jason_a_w) Creepy guy at the protest...the fuck did this bong creepy guy drink the chemical shake???

He was also seen wearing the same gloves that were in the Ngo beating video.

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If anyone at the protest got bitten by this creature, I hope they got a rabies shot.