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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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RadicalCentrist said:
At this rate, it will be more dangerous to be a child in "Great" Britain than anywhere else in the world:



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"You're in my way of doing what I want, so let me guarantee I'll never be able to do what I want again by getting locked in prison! See ya, kids!"
I'm calling it now: drugs.
EasyPeasy said:
A model WTF? What was she modelling, her fucking freckles?

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That's a rough 23.
Also: Yup. Drugs.
.... Do you think the babydaddies are clients who came in her by accident? oh shit
 
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keyboredsm4shthe2nd said:
"You're in my way of doing what I want, so let me guarantee I'll never be able to do what I want again by getting locked in prison! See ya, kids!"
I'm calling it now: drugs.

That's a rough 23.
Also: Yup. Drugs.
.... Do you think the babydaddies are clients who came in her by accident? oh shit
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23? She's about 14. Welcome to Britain, land of shit food and shitier jail bait
 
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EasyPeasy said:
Farage is a sellout toff, he revealed the Brexit Party's policies and it's stupid stuff like free wi-fi on buses and trains, free broadband in every home, cancelling interest payments on student loans... etc

But nothing about protecting our borders, nothing about kicking out non-British immigrants after Brexit, nothing about giving our pensioners a decent pension to live on or getting our homeless veterans off the streets.

Fuck him, lost my vote.
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Farage has never represented himself as anything other than a laissez faire civnat. His reputation as a far-right anti-immigrant nationalist was invented by the media. The only notable party offering real nationalism and mass repatriation was the BNP.
 
EasyPeasy said:
Farage is a sellout toff, he revealed the Brexit Party's policies and it's stupid stuff like free wi-fi on buses and trains, free broadband in every home, cancelling interest payments on student loans... etc

But nothing about protecting our borders, nothing about kicking out non-British immigrants after Brexit, nothing about giving our pensioners a decent pension to live on or getting our homeless veterans off the streets.

Fuck him, lost my vote.
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Pensioners in the uk have so much fucking money its unreal, but they dont want to spend it. Stupid old cunts wont spend their savings because "thats for my children". They hoarded property and cash and get indignant because the welfare system they "worked their whole lives" to pay into isnt their own personal piggy bank. If you are one of the relatively few people who didnt work enough for a full pension, then the evil government tops it up and pays all your rent and council tax for you. Seriously, fuck pensioners. They have no idea how good they have it compared to future generations. Farage cant do anything to fix that.
 
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r00 said:
Pensioners in the uk have so much fucking money its unreal, but they dont want to spend it. Stupid old cunts wont spend their savings because "thats for my children". They hoarded property and cash and get indignant because the welfare system they "worked their whole lives" to pay into isnt their own personal piggy bank. If you are one of the relatively few people who didnt work enough for a full pension, then the evil government tops it up and pays all your rent and council tax for you. Seriously, fuck pensioners. They have no idea how good they have it compared to future generations. Farage cant do anything to fix that.
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Age war now! gas the grannies
 
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Buster O'Keefe said:
Age war now! gas the grannies
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If only. People are living longer and new pensioners are outpacing newborns. There are currently a good chunk of people who are living to an age where they spend 40% of their lives claiming a state pension which is a lot longer than anyone imagined when state pensions were first introduced. Thats why the working age keeps increasing. Most of them are women who didnt actually pay enough in to cover what they get out of it. Many of them have decent savings and own their own property. The current problems with pensions arent even the tip of the iceberg of how fucked everyone is going to be later. Pensions dont suck because the government is evil. They suck because we simply cant afford to keep paying them, especially not to increasingly decrepit old fucks that are rattling about in big houses they dont need and have enough savings to realistically support themselves.
 
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Iwasamwillbe said:
I didn't say that there necessarily wasn't anything wrong with white identitarianism, but now that you bring it up, there is a clear difference between Zionism and white identitarianism. Zionism, in practice, has allowed for a significant Arab minority in Israel (along with a virtually intractable regional conflict), while the closest analogue for white identitarianism being put in practice (i.e. Nazism), caused a genocide.

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But is Nazism the closest white identitarianism?


The Immigration Restriction Act 1901[2] was an Act of the Parliament of Australia which limited immigration to Australia which sought to exclude all non-Europeans from Australia. The law granted immigration officers a wide degree of discretion to prevent individuals from entering Australia. The Act prohibited various classes of people from immigrating and provided for illegal immigrants to be deported.[3]

These policies effectively gave British migrants preference over all others through the first four decades of the 20th century. During the Second World War, Prime Minister John Curtin reinforced the policy, saying "This country shall remain forever the home of the descendants of those people who came here in peace in order to establish in the South Seas an outpost of the British race."[3]

The initial bill was based on similar legislation in South Africa.[5]

So apparently South Africa and Australia were previously Nazi nations.

But now they are woke.

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r00 said:
If only. People are living longer and new pensioners are outpacing newborns. There are currently a good chunk of people who are living to an age where they spend 40% of their lives claiming a state pension which is a lot longer than anyone imagined when state pensions were first introduced. Thats why the working age keeps increasing. Most of them are women who didnt actually pay enough in to cover what they get out of it. Many of them have decent savings and own their own property. The current problems with pensions arent even the tip of the iceberg of how fucked everyone is going to be later. Pensions dont suck because the government is evil. They suck because we simply cant afford to keep paying them, especially not to increasingly decrepit old fucks that are rattling about in big houses they dont need and have enough savings to realistically support themselves.
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What did you expect from a policy that takes from the least wealthy age bracket (the young working class) and gives to the overwhelmingly wealthiest age bracket (the old?)

Reminder that social welfare was started by Bismark to keep the proles from revolting as he consolidated the German confederation into the empire.

"Behind every baneful idea in the popular culture there lurks a German intellectual"
 
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Inquisitor_BadAss said:
Probably would have been replaced in a couple weeks anyway so might as well have jumped.
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While it's true that his position was almost certainly untenable in the long-term, going so quickly is actually presenting itself as a much bigger issue.

The thing is, after a few weeks (or months) when the news cycle has moved on, he could have quietly moved on and been replaced. Instead there seems to be a general feeling developing, especially after Boris (current PM heir apparent) did not defend him in the TV debate, that he has basically been fired (or forced to resign) by proxy, by Trump. This breaks the general international diplomatic convention that nations are free to assign who they want as ambassadors to other countries, the recipient nations get no official/public say in the matter (of course, I fully expect that a lot of behind-the-scenes talks take place).
 
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London is tracking passengers on the Underground

London's subway has become the latest transportation agency to use location data collected from people's smartphones in a bid to improve services.
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Washington, DC(CNN Business)London's subway has become the latest transportation agency to use location data collected from people's smartphones in a bid to improve services.

Transport for London, which operates the Tube, began collecting data in its stations this week, in order to determine how people are moving through the system and how crowded trains and platforms are. It said passengers will benefit as they will get more alerts about delays and congestion later this year. Extra trains could also be added on routes where the data indicates trains are especially congested.

It's become increasingly common in recent years for transportation organizations worldwide to use smartphone data to better plan services. They say digital data offers insights that greatly surpass previous methods, such as user surveys.

But transportation experts believe London may have the first public transportation system to track and use individual trip data in real time. Given how large a system London operates, other cities may follow suit if the project succeeds. The practice also raises concerns about user privacy, unwanted tracking, potential hacks and the misuse of data.

In London, there is no process to obtain consent from passengers for the data collection aside from signs posted in stations, explaining that data is being collected to improve services. The signs also say people can opt out by turning off their wifi.

Smartphones aren't the only way transportation agencies collect location data. In 2018, the Los Angeles Department of Transportation released a way for cities to track shared e-scooter and e-bike rides, by requiring the vehicles to broadcast their location to the local government. In the future, the same system will be used to monitor self-driving cars. Individual trip data can be shared with agencies up to 24 hours after trips, rather than instantly as in London. Many cities have adopted LA's system. This summer the program spun off into a new organization that will govern it, the Open Mobility Foundation, with some of the largest US cities as board members.

London's program relies on wifi in 260 of its stations to understand where people are, such as waiting on the platform or in a ticketing area. It can get the location of any smartphone in the area that has its wifi turned on. Phones do not need to be connected to the subway's wifi network.

Transport for London says it will be able to monitor in real-time how long it takes people to walk from the ticketing area to the train platform, and estimate how many people are on each train. The program is an expansion of a 2016 pilot that it deemed a success.

Agencies such as Transport for London use anonymous location data as a security measure, according to the agency. But reidentifying — the practice of linking anonymous data to a person — has also been shown to become easier when combined with other databases, according to experts. London said it isn't linking the anonymous data to other customer information, and only individual, depersonalized data is available to a controlled group of employees. Only aggregated data may be shared with other Transport for London departments, and external bodies.

Data can be shared with law enforcement if police demonstrate through a formal process that the data release is justified to prevent or detect crime or prosecute an offender, according to Transport for London.

Collecting data via wifi isn't the only option for transportation agencies. StreetLight Data, a San Francisco-based company, supplies location data to dozens of cities, states and agencies, illuminating how cars, trucks, pedestrians and bikes move on streets. It uses location data from smartphone apps and connected cars that it buys from data collection companies such as Cuebiq, and says it has data on about a quarter of all trips through a given area.

Some areas, such as the transportation authority in Flagstaff, Arizona, say the data from StreetLight has helped them better plan services and save taxpayer dollars.

For example, transportation officials knew a few years ago that they had a traffic problem on a road leading to a nearby ski resort. With data from Streetlight Data, they examined the worst traffic days over the previous five years on the road. They concluded there wasn't a need to build a new, expensive road, but that increasing bus service would alleviate the bad conditions, according to a transportation agency spokeswoman. Since adding more bus service in 2018, transit ridership is up and congestion is down.

Now the city is planning to use the data to better plan bus rapid transit.

"It's more like planning with a precise laser beam than a floodlight, where you're making an assumption about an entire community," said Jacki Lenners, spokeswoman for the Northern Arizona Intergovernmental Public Transportation Authority.
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All this tracking and surveillance is horrifying. Maybe luddites have the right idea.
 
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