ANTIFA / Antifascist Action / Antifaschistische Aktion - The anti-fascist gang with fascist tendencies

[Syaoran Li]

I'd bet a lot of money they've been investigating them for quite some time. Feds are sneaky fucks. You don't tend to find out what they are really up to for thirty years.

True. RICO was passed in 1970, but you didn't see the massive federal crackdowns on the Italian Mafia start until the late 1980's and it wasn't until the mid-1990's that the majority of the really high-profile cases were all resolved in court. You still had smaller crackdowns from those investigations continue even into the late 90's and 2000's.

Keep in mind that RICO was passed specifically to target the Italian Mafia and the Five Families and Chicago Outfit were fast-tracked for investigation.

I would not be surprised if the Feds are intensely yet subtly investigating Antifa, although if the incident in Portland continues to spark more outrage from normies and centrists, we're probably going to start seeing some indictments and warrants being issued in the near future, especially if Andy Ngo dies from his injuries.

 

[It's HK-47]

I wasn't aware that beating a gay minority in the streets was considered "starting a conversation", but thank you, random VOX soy-creature.

 

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I wasn't aware that beating a gay minority in the streets was considered "starting a conversation", but thank you, random VOX soy-creature.

Your speech is violence. Their violence is speech. Honk Honk.

 

[AnOminous]

I'd bet a lot of money they've been investigating them for quite some time. Feds are sneaky fucks. You don't tend to find out what they are really up to for thirty years.

At some point, much like other commie groups like the CP/USA ended up, you'll have a bunch of feds snitching on each other and a hollowed out actual group with nobody unironically in it but spuds like ADF/Phil.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

The "black bloc" has been around throwing bricks at starbucks and violently murdering trash cans for as long as I can recall. They would latch on to the leftists in any demonstration or march and everyone would claim not to know them. There was a small subset of anti-racist punks in Portland who would tromp around wearing their retarded uniforms (shaved heads and giant swastikas which were crossed out not very competently, so from a distance they looked like a gang of nazis). The switch from "black bloc anarchists, we disavow them!" to "antifa, they're heroes!" came in about 2015-16, like a lot of similar changes.

 

[escapegoat]

Yeah, they were usually called Black Bloc when I was younger, and they used to get accused of being CIA plants or "white out of town anarchists discrediting legitimate protest." Even as late as Occupy.

Whoever said they've always been fight club is correct.

 

[ICametoLurk]

Whoever said they've always been fight club is correct.

All US politics is LARPing. You probably believe that people in Antifa are, as someone mentioned in the MSM recently, “principled antifascists”. I’ve met people who participate in black bloc. They are like any other of our current street-fighting groups eg Proud Boys, Alt Right, in that any theory or ideology is secondary to feeling like you’re part of a group and working together to enact some sort of change in a country where people feel powerless.

 

[Sissy Galvez]

True. RICO was passed in 1970, but you didn't see the massive federal crackdowns on the Italian Mafia start until the late 1980's and it wasn't until the mid-1990's that the majority of the really high-profile cases were all resolved in court. You still had smaller crackdowns from those investigations continue even into the late 90's and 2000's.

Keep in mind that RICO was passed specifically to target the Italian Mafia and the Five Families and Chicago Outfit were fast-tracked for investigation.

I would not be surprised if the Feds are intensely yet subtly investigating Antifa, although if the incident in Portland continues to spark more outrage from normies and centrists, we're probably going to start seeing some indictments and warrants being issued in the near future, especially if Andy Ngo dies from his injuries.

It takes time to infiltrate, to build trust, to gather evidence, etc. It doesn’t happen overnight and Antifa is a loose group of inbred dumb fucks. I wouldn’t be surprised if the leadership of larger antifa groups like Rose City Antifa aren’t feds or informants.

They think they’re clever and smarter than the feds or alt/right and that they’ve effectively hidden their chats and organizing but they’re wrong. If the feds are keeping tabs on a terrorist living in a cave, why wouldn’t they have eyes and ears on wannabe socialists who reject their upper middle class upbringing and live in a first world country using the latest iphones and laptops?

 

[AnOminous]

They think they’re clever and smarter than the feds or alt/right and that they’ve effectively hidden their chats and organizing but they’re wrong. If the feds are keeping tabs on a terrorist living in a cave, why wouldn’t they have eyes and ears on wannabe socialists who reject their upper middle class upbringing and live in a first world country using the latest iphones and laptops?

The reason they haven't gotten these morons is they actually don't want to, at least not yet. It's better to keep them in these ineffectual containment groups where their fucking retardation just attracts others of the same kind. And until they start doing things that are actually dangerous on a large scale, they will be left alone, allowed to funnel idiots into ineffectual bullshit.

There is not some huge woke conspiracy, it is just that these dipshits are possibly the least dangerous activity that the kind of people who would have gotten into the Weather Underground and similar shit in previous generations can be funneled into. If they actually turn dangerous there will just be a mass roundup, much like after shit like the Haymarket Riots.

 

[moocow]

And until they start doing things that are actually dangerous on a large scale, they will be left alone, allowed to funnel idiots into ineffectual bullshit.

That might be coming to an end if they're getting comfortable killing people and cheering it on.

 

[queue-anon]

Maybe I'm just clueless, but why are so many people defending these fuck-wads?

If I was left leaning, I'd be embarrassed that they were on my side of the aisle and would do everything I could to disavow them.

I'm left leaning, but am getting increasingly fed up with the left, and I've been against antifa since shortly after I first heard about them. I don't like political violence, especially when the stakes are so low and when it's accomplishing jackshit. I also find antifa's use of violence and the left's flexible definitions of "fascist" and "Nazi" to be a dangerous combination. If antifa ever did manage to destroy supposed hate groups, they'd immediately turn against leftists who are also guilty of thoughtcrime. According to antifa fuckwads, I'd qualify as a "literal Nazi" because I don't think a man in drag is a woman, and I like my face without a fist in it.

Where's the statistic on kids getting raped? And by who? If it was the border patrol raping kids, we would have heard about it a long time ago.

It's been pretty clear from the reporting I've seen on this that the kids are raping each other. I still hold ICE somewhat responsible for that because it should come as a surprise to nobody what happens when you warehouse sexually mature teenagers with younger kids.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

I'm left leaning, but am getting increasingly fed up with the left, and I've been against antifa since shortly after I first heard about them. I don't like political violence, especially when the stakes are so low and when it's accomplishing jackshit. I also find antifa's use of violence and the left's flexible definitions of "fascist" and "Nazi" to be a dangerous combination. If antifa ever did manage to destroy supposed hate groups, they'd immediately turn against leftists who are also guilty of thoughtcrime. According to antifa fuckwads, I'd qualify as a "literal Nazi" because I don't think a man in drag is a woman, and I like my face without a fist in it.

That is how I feel. I am pretty left, but Antifa is a really bad thing to be backing because it doesn't take much for vigilantism to end badly. It happens every fucking time. And, like you said, coupled with the left's very generous definitions of "nazi" and "fascist", it's a bad combo. Not to mention that even if someone is indeed fascist, that doesn't mean they deserve to be assaulted. Not all fascists are nazis. Fascism is not much different than communism.

Not to mention that anyone who says "Antifa is stupid" is automatically labeled a "nazi sympathizer" or something.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Ngo has gone back to the hospital:

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

That is how I feel. I am pretty left, but Antifa is a really bad thing to be backing because it doesn't take much for vigilantism to end badly. It happens every fucking time. And, like you said, coupled with the left's very generous definitions of "nazi" and "fascist", it's a bad combo. Not to mention that even if someone is indeed fascist, that doesn't mean they deserve to be assaulted. Not all fascists are nazis. Fascism is not much different than communism.

Makes me wonder why "real fascism has never been tried" isn't considered a valid argument to these people. Probably because they don't believe in logic anyway.

 

[Dante Alighieri]

Makes me wonder why "real fascism has never been tried" isn't considered a valid argument to these people. Probably because they don't believe in logic anyway.

You can't argue with someone who has no principles or standards that don't come from feelings.

 

[queue-anon]

That is how I feel. I am pretty left, but Antifa is a really bad thing to be backing because it doesn't take much for vigilantism to end badly. It happens every fucking time. And, like you said, coupled with the left's very generous definitions of "nazi" and "fascist", it's a bad combo. Not to mention that even if someone is indeed fascist, that doesn't mean they deserve to be assaulted. Not all fascists are nazis. Fascism is not much different than communism.

Not to mention that anyone who says "Antifa is stupid" is automatically labeled a "nazi sympathizer" or something.

Pretty early on I criticized antifa and, yeah, that made me a “nazi” which didn’t convince me I was wrong, it just made me think antifa is even more dangerous. Imagine that.

 

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Pretty early on I criticized antifa and, yeah, that made me a “nazi” which didn’t convince me I was wrong, it just made me think antifa is even more dangerous. Imagine that.

Just remember: The official stance of the Democratic Party is that you should "Punch a Nazi," har har har, isn't political violence hilarious? But don't worry, the only possible reason you could object to a violent leftist street militia assaulting random people is if you are, in fact, guilty of the crime of needing to be assaulted.

Dangerous games. I wonder how many Antifa riots will be in Trump's successful 2020 reelection campaign videos?

 

[Vault Boy]

Ngo has gone back to the hospital:

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Watch as some morally bankrupt asshats try to mock his injury or downplay the severity of it.

 

[AnOminous]

According to antifa fuckwads, I'd qualify as a "literal Nazi" because I don't think a man in drag is a woman, and I like my face without a fist in it.

And if they like their heads without bullet holes in them they'll eventually learn that their current escalation is a very, very bad idea and will not end well for them.

 

[Vitoze]

Makes me wonder why "real fascism has never been tried" isn't considered a valid argument to these people. Probably because they don't believe in logic anyway.

Considering Mussolini's track record, do fascists even make that argument? Couldn't they just talk up that government?