Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

[Tour of Italy]

I don't know what's worse, the fact that MoRon hired a literal exceptional individual because he's the only lawyer who would tell them what they wanted to hear, or that the twitter "lawyers" spending all day online because no one at their firm trusts them in a one mile radius of cases that matter make fuhrer lemonparty look practically genius.

You make a really good point here. I'm guessing we ended up with Erick and Lemoine because Monica and Ron wouldn't hire anyone who was realistic enough to tell them to stop fucking tweeting and develop a real strategy already.

 

[AnOminous]

I love that these idiots think Ty didn't know what he was doing while Lemon didn't know they never even asked Vic to produce the evidence he was asking him about or that casey didn't know what objections he could use.

Edits : fucking autocorrect.

Law Twitter is such an absolute fucking joke. I doubt these idiotic clowns have even responded to MoRon's failure to even issue Requests for Production at this late date.

Note, it's general, if you have any sense, to do so so that you get discovery materials BEFORE deposition so that you can fucking ask about them.

Ty issued Requests for Production in the opening complaint. MoRon? Never. They forgot? They didn't know they're supposed to? Does Law Twitter realize this isn't complete clownshoes? Do they even know it happened in the case?

But to these idiot Law Twitturds, when Ty uses documents he had to get himself because, despite them having been requested, the defense played chickenshit games, he's the idiot.

But when the defense outright fails to even make Requests for Production, Ty is the idiot for pointing out that they didn't do that. Because Lemonhead apparently didn't realize they hadn't.

 

[Basil II]

You make a really good point here. I'm guessing we ended up with Erick and Lemoine because Monica and Ron wouldn't hire anyone who was realistic enough to tell them to stop fucking tweeting and develop a real strategy already.

Objection! Casey did tell them to stop tweeting, they're just so retarded that they didn't listen so Casey had to get embarrassed in front of the judge.

 

[Wake me up]

I very much doubt that J Sean will be asking the questions in court

You have to ask yourself: why was he doing the deposition? Because he's probably the most aggressive of the lawyers - which he did, in fact, try to act out, with the "y'all taking the money to grind some women down to the ground!" This sounds like a long-term strategy, to extend to court the same strategy that the defendants use on Twitter, which is to call "RAPE! RAPE!" enough times and loud enough that people just might believe them.

If that's, indeed, their strategy, it would make sense for Lemoine to keep pushing the agenda during the trial, if he was decided to be the best one to play it out during deposition as well. Whether he is actually qualified or effective in playing bad cop is an entirely separate question but my line of thinking remains: if he was decided to be the best one to get a reaction out of a witness in deposition, the same will probably apply to trial as well, unless they change their entire outlook and strategic goals - which they might as well do, since Vic didn't bat an eye so far.

 

[Cakeisjustok]

But when the defense outright fails to even make Requests for Production, Ty is the idiot for pointing out that they didn't do that. Because Lemonhead apparently didn't realize they hadn't.

Which is yet another area of criticism of the defense, why does the person doing the most important deposition not know what they asked for or rather that they failed to do so. Seems like that would have come up in prep, or should have. Now if it's simply because they are idiots, or if it due to them having too many different firms not working together that remains to be seen. But it was clearly a blown opportunity due to incompetence.

 

[repentance]

You have to ask yourself: why was he doing the deposition? Because he's probably the most aggressive of the lawyers - which he did, in fact, try to act out, with the "y'all taking the money to grind some women down to the ground!" This sounds like a long-term strategy, to extend to court the same strategy that the defendants use on Twitter, which is to call "RAPE! RAPE!" enough times and loud enough that people just might believe them.

I mentioned this in one of the other threads. I think they used him in the hope that Vic would feel empathy/pity for his affliction and be disarmed into trying to please him. He wasn't a hard hitter by any means, so I doubt he's in this dog and pony show for his sooper cross examination skillz.

 

[curious gentoo]

My speculation is that Casey realized early on he's been swindled, with their story and their funds. All those late filings and technically being in default for their answer are probably a sign of this. Casey made no hesitation to authenticate those ~400 tweets because like hell he's going put unpaid hours into doing it manually.

 

[JoyfulDarter]

It seems that the current take by law twitter is that releasing the depositions is bad unless it hurts Vic.

Does law twitter even having a stake in this beyond propping up their own egos and using it as an opportunity to signal their politics? Still slowly getting caught up on the Meyer v Waid situation but I'm seeing a ton of parallels. Prosecution does something, these bugmen swarm out of the woodworks and stumble over each other to be the first to bend over backwards to somehow indicate it's the end of the case and the lawyer is a hack fraud. I mean, if these cases go the way of the plaintiffs, does this come back to bite them in any meaningful way with people being like, "wow, you're a fucking idiot and were wrong about literally everything about this case you have no credibility," or does it just disappear into the ether? I can't imagine potential clients will troll their twitter feeds for their opinions on a weaboo slapfight before hiring them.

 

[Wake me up]

My speculation is that Casey realized early on he's been swindled

If that's the case why is he further allowing himself to be swindled? I find it hard to believe he wouldn't drop the case altogether on the spot once any party failed to keep up with their obligations towards him. He's not working on contingency, that's a given - or even pro bono, considering he prouds himself of being a Super Duper Lawyer.

 

[curious gentoo]

If that's the case why is he further allowing himself to be swindled? I find it hard to believe he wouldn't drop the case altogether on the spot once any party failed to keep up with their obligations towards him. He's not working on contingency, that's a given - or even pro bono, considering he prouds himself of being a Super Duper Lawyer.

That's a good question.

I mentioned this in one of the other threads. I think they used him in the hope that Vic would feel empathy/pity for his affliction and be disarmed into trying to please him. He wasn't a hard hitter by any means, so I doubt he's in this dog and pony show for his sooper cross examination skillz.

It's funny because it had the opposite effect. Lemoine, not used to having someone's sincere attention, because of his condition and being in a generally despised profession, got swooned by Vic without even realizing it.

 

[Cakeisjustok]

If that's the case why is he further allowing himself to be swindled? I find it hard to believe he wouldn't drop the case altogether on the spot once any party failed to keep up with their obligations towards him. He's not working on contingency, that's a given - or even pro bono, considering he prouds himself of being a Super Duper Lawyer.

Only thing I can think of is that he still has hope of the TCPA. Notice he's not been doing any of the work lately, everything is in Lemonheads name. Maybe is his hoping he will be paid if they win TCPA.

 

[Wake me up]

That's a good question.

The implied answer is obviously he's either not being swindled or he's not yet aware of it. Much more likely is that Ron is paying out-of-pocket for everything and will be completely dry once it's all over or midway through.

Don't remember what but something in his deposition actually made me think Monica is actually the one contributing the largest part to the household. If someone's OK going broke and pushing for this, it's Soye though.

 

[curious gentoo]

The implied answer is obviously he's either not being swindled or he's not yet aware of it. Much more likely is that Ron is paying out-of-pocket for everything and will be completely dry once it's all over or midway through.

Don't remember what but something in his deposition actually made me think Monica is actually the one contributing the largest part to the household. If someone's OK going broke and pushing for this, it's Soye though.

Oh yeah, if you're implying outright fraud I doubt that's what's happening. That would be far too exceptional. From the depo it sounds like MoRon haven't paid their councel more than 10k. With all their chicken-shit games it's safe to assume they won't be seeing their money any time soon.

 

[repentance]

If that's the case why is he further allowing himself to be swindled? I find it hard to believe he wouldn't drop the case altogether on the spot once any party failed to keep up with their obligations towards him. He's not working on contingency, that's a given - or even pro bono, considering he prouds himself of being a Super Duper Lawyer.

It's quite curious. There are two other law firms representing the defendants and the case is still at pre-trial motion stage, so it wouldn't be difficult for him to withdraw if he wished.

 

[Cakeisjustok]

The implied answer is obviously he's either not being swindled or he's not yet aware of it. Much more likely is that Ron is paying out-of-pocket for everything and will be completely dry once it's all over or midway through.

Don't remember what but something in his deposition actually made me think Monica is actually the one contributing the largest part to the household. If someone's OK going broke and pushing for this, it's Soye though.

I'd love to know how secure his finances are if he just had to start a new job recently. I'm thinking that wasn't planned and wish Ty had asked about it (just to see if he was fired or not). They are still likely betting they will not have to pay their lawyers due to listening to idiots on law Twitter thinking the TCPA is a slam dunk.

 

[AnOminous]

The implied answer is obviously he's either not being swindled or he's not yet aware of it. Much more likely is that Ron is paying out-of-pocket for everything and will be completely dry once it's all over or midway through.

Don't remember what but something in his deposition actually made me think Monica is actually the one contributing the largest part to the household. If someone's OK going broke and pushing for this, it's Soye though.

Even if he and the other Super Duper Lawyers got a fairly substantial advance, splitting up whatever they got between them, there is no way lots of that hasn't been burned already with the absolutely ludicrously insane amount of motion practice before even a motion to dismiss under the TCPA, which would have been literally the first thing any normal defendants would have done.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Watching these depositions it's clear whose side the jury will be on. Vic answered the questions, and for stuff he did not know went as far to explain WHY he didn't know it. Or could not know it. Toye just went "I dont know" to damn near everything.

 

[AnOminous]

Watching these depositions it's clear whose side the jury will be on. Vic answered the questions, and for stuff he did not know went as far to explain WHY he didn't know it. Or could not know it. Toye just went "I dont know" to damn near everything.

Or purely nonresponsive, improper answers like "Looks like it" or "Might be." For questions that were yes/no/I don't know.

 

[Wake me up]

it wouldn't be difficult for him to withdraw if he wished

If he's not being paid, he can drop the case at any point in time. Might come as a shock but slavery is illegal in the USA.

 

[JohnDoe]

Watching these depositions it's clear whose side the jury will be on. Vic answered the questions, and for stuff he did not know went as far to explain WHY he didn't know it. Or could not know it. Toye just went "I dont know" to damn near everything.

When this goes to trial, it'll be in front of a jury, and I don't think there is a jury in North America that won't be lapping up Vic like iced tea in the desert. It'll go something like this;

Vic: "I just wanted to bring joy to my fans through my craft and....well I guess that blinded me to who I could trust, and who would try to destroy me with lies."
Toye: "I don't recall!" Excited squeal. "I am the sheepdog, and he is the sexual predator!" Lisping desperately, makeup running down his face. "There are hundreds of women he raped! I just can't remember!"
Vic, humbly: "I can only hope that this court and these fine people in the jury box can help me find justice, and do something to repair my reputation so I can return to my craft and mission."
Not long after, the jury submits a request for lumber and rope sufficient to hang the defendants.

Its just like Nick or Ty says, the law is one thing, but the human element cannot be ignored and in that element Vic reigns supreme.