Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

Note: for evidence, I present to the court of kiwi farms a simple logic puzzle: if this isn't true then why isn't there a lot more drama over there? something like this would have the country in an uproar and calling for otaku heads to roll.
The only VA drama here in Japan is if they either:
A) get caught on a date
B) get married
C) get caught cheating on another relationship

Tomokazu Seki and Tomokazu Sugita are rumored to be sex pests and assholes, and Hiroko Konishi shared her #MeToo story earlier this year, but that's about it. Which made this case so goddamn appealing to me because usually the Japanese VA agencies keep everything under lock and key so we're never introduced to these levels of exceptionalism :story:
 
True to form, it posted that shortly after people started expressing that they were slamming X to doubt, along with this:
Well if nothing more, this idiot gave us a means to verify his statement. If money changed hands from a con to a hotel, then it should be on one of their books. If it can't be found, then someone is lying.
 
'Scorched Earth' does come with the notion that many external people could be affected by this. TFS being one of them.

The anime industry is very buddy-buddy so it stands to reason there'll be a knock-on effect. It's only VIZ and Sentai Filmworks I can think of that have kept out of it entirely...to my knowledge.

Because if Funimation gets either killed or absorbed into Sony's own Anime Division they will pick up more work.

It's in Viz and Sentai's own interests to keep quiet and let the dust settle.
 
Japan tends to be a hawk with its big budget money makers. They are watching dragonball and one piece like fucking hawks.... so you can be assured that funimation has not just toei's eye right now because of this incident.
Which makes their political edits to lesser dubs that much cuntier. Funi wouldn't dare to co-opt or re-write One Piece for propaganda cause they'd for sure lose that sweet cash. Yet when it comes to the smaller shows they feel completely safe in butchering the original Japanese creator's work against his knowledge. Unfortunately for us, even if Soyny cleans house, the commiefornia-based company will just replace the likes of Rial with millennial hipsters who may be Even Worse....

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Pretty sure that group are hiding at best, and KickVic at worst. Funi and TFS have routinely featured each others VAs on projects because TFS knows that being in Funi's good graces is probably the only thing keeping them alive, and Funi knows TFS are good boys who always say "support dat official release". Considering every group that has been aligned with Funi from CR, to ANN, to Sony seems to have a cancerous element of SJWs inside. TFS is more than likely no different if you read some of these soyboy faggots' twitter feeds. Screw em, they've been making cash off Toei's iconography for years.
I don't have a problem with the abriged series, but yes, they are secretly KickVic. I do believe they supported the other VAs in the beginning. It's just that they actually had the brain cells to not say much on the matter and keep the controversies out.

Much like a lot of VAs who stand with Vic apparently, with the exception of Reuben Langdon, who at least wants a day in court for the man.
 
'Scorched Earth' does come with the notion that many external people could be affected by this. TFS being one of them.

The anime industry is very buddy-buddy so it stands to reason there'll be a knock-on effect. It's only VIZ and Sentai Filmworks I can think of that have kept out of it entirely...to my knowledge.
There's some smaller places that haven't made public asses of themselves. Right Stuf (as Nozomi) doesn't spill their spaghetti AFAIK. Which is good, they have rescued some pretty awesome series that fell through the cracks. How Record of School Wars Muryou or whatever it was they ended up naming Shingu never got licensed before they picked it up is a mystery to me. It's Madhouse from the time Galaxy Angel was half the memes on the internet, and only a few years after Trigun and Cardcaptor Sakura.
 
Because if Funimation gets either killed or absorbed into Sony's own Anime Division they will pick up more work.

It's in Viz and Sentai's own interests to keep quiet and let the dust settle.
The prospect of VIZ, having all they have, and THEN bargaining for Toei IPs is quite scary.
I don't have a problem with the abriged series, but yes, they are secretly KickVic. I do believe they supported the other VAs in the beginning. It's just that they actually had the brain cells to not say much on the matter and keep the controversies out.

Much like a lot of VAs who stand with Vic apparently, with the exception of Reuben Langdon, who at least wants a day in court for the man.
It's not hard to understand why people want to keep their noses clean on either side.

It's equally as easy to acknowledge that publicly supporting one side is significantly more dangerous to their career than the other.
 
wo young women accompanying a man to his hotel room
I'm gonna go out on a limb here too and say that even if Vic did initiate a non-consensual kiss "to get things started" then that's a victimless crime either. Any reasonable adult would understand the context and sexual implications of going into a man's room and into a private scenario between two apparently willing parties.

I'm not saying that if you're invited and go into a man's room then you've already consented to sex and any raping being done is purely consensual, I'm just saying that a reasonable adult should be able to realize it might be a solicitation for sex. If the guy (girl, trans, whatever) tries to initiate a sexual encounter in that context (with a kiss, getting naked, touching your legs, etc) and it's not reciprocated, then you're absolutely entitled to say no and leave - but calling any of that "inappropriate behavior" after you decided to enter that situation of your own free will is a stretch, to say the least.

Let's blow the argument out of proportion to see how stupid it sounds: imagine you and your sister being invited to an orgy, you go there, ask what is happening, leave and then say it was inappropriate. That's absolutely preposterous. Context matters.
 
'Scorched Earth' does come with the notion that many external people could be affected by this. TFS being one of them.

The anime industry is very buddy-buddy so it stands to reason there'll be a knock-on effect. It's only VIZ and Sentai Filmworks I can think of that have kept out of it entirely...to my knowledge.
The prospect of VIZ, having all they have, and THEN bargaining for Toei IPs

It's not hard to understand why people want to keep their noses clean on either side.

It's equally as easy to acknowledge that publicly supporting one side is significantly more dangerous to their career than the other.
Viz is owned by Shueisha (another Japanese company, responsible for Shonen Jump). Viz also does anime dubbing as well, so keeping their nose out of this shitstorm is pretty essential for them. If Funimation lost the DBZ and OP licenses, it would most likely go to them since Viz handles the manga for both series.
 
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We've got another deluded troon accuser, Kiwis!

Meet "Lucas Martinez," a shemale that could never pass as a man because not even five stomach rolls can hide the fact that it still has breasts. Surprising, really, because usually we get the "men in drag" types like Manjaw Montello, but now we've got the other side of the defective coin.

Allegedly it met Vic at age 11-12 and Vic told it that it "must make all the boys crazy" and said "Ah, so you're jailbait!" in front of the unfortunate Hispanic man that squirted it out twenty years ago. Yeah, because that's obviously how Vic talks, and apparently these troon footsoldiers think he's as exceptional as they are.

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Gotta love how even the most dumpy, unsightly troon could level an accusation towards Vic and #KickVic eats it right up. I mean come the fuck on. You're looking at a dude that was engaged to a bombshell like Michele Specht and was likely involved with women like that hot translator we uncovered and the twins. Wishful thinking at best.

Pressing X to doubt so hard that the lettering is faded and the button's getting jammed.

EDIT: Damn it. Later and gayer than Rackets. Ah well. :(

What is with these horrifyingly hideous creatures and their rape fantasies? Is it the only thing that keeps them going if the truth is the only way a man would hit on them is with a brick?
 
I don't have a problem with the abriged series, but yes, they are secretly KickVic. I do believe they supported the other VAs in the beginning. It's just that they actually had the brain cells to not say much on the matter and keep the controversies out.

Much like a lot of VAs who stand with Vic apparently, with the exception of Reuben Langdon, who at least wants a day in court for the man.
Oh yeah I definitely can see that TFS is secretly kickvic. Not only has Sabat pretty much protected them from Toei(which means they are sabats bitch), but one of them pretty much is a open believe women supporter(Was it kaiser?). I mean I will not hold it against them for their opinion and in one of their videos, pretty much stated they will wait until court, but have opted to not be open with their opinions on the matter(smart move really).
 
Viz is owned by Shueisha (another Japanese company, responsible for Shonen Jump). Viz also does anime dubbing as well, so keeping their nose out of this shitstorm is pretty essential for them. If Funimation lost the DBZ and OP licenses, it would most likely go to them since Viz handles the manga for both series.
If Viz takes on Sabat in that circumstance it will be a sad thing.
 
The only VA drama here in Japan is if they either:
A) get caught on a date
B) get married
C) get caught cheating on another relationship

Tomokazu Seki and Tomokazu Sugita are rumored to be sex pests and assholes, and Hiroko Konishi shared her #MeToo story earlier this year, but that's about it. Which made this case so goddamn appealing to me because usually the Japanese VA agencies keep everything under lock and key so we're never introduced to these levels of exceptionalism :story:
D) Kokoro Connect incident
E) Getting caught with possession of a shitload of Cocaine
F)It coming out you did AVs a few years ago
G)Joining an actual cult
 
If Viz takes on Sabat in that circumstance it will be a sad thing.
In that hypothetical circumstance, I'd imagine companies would be aware of how toxic he'd be to them if he was allowed to reach those positions.

Certainly keep him in the industry to do his VA work, but Funimation have seemingly done the equivalent of guiding his hand towards their balls to be vice-gripped.
 
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E) Getting caught with possession of a shitload of Cocaine
F)It coming out you did AVs a few years ago
G)Joining an actual cult
It doesn't need to be a large amount of cocaine, even getting caught with a small personal stash is enough to be a persona non grata for possibly the rest of your career. They're insanely strict about recreational drugs in Japan, both in law and in public reaction.
 
Oh yeah I definitely can see that TFS is secretly kickvic. Not only has Sabat pretty much protected them from Toei(which means they are sabats bitch), but one of them pretty much is a open believe women supporter(Was it kaiser?). I mean I will not hold it against them for their opinion and in one of their videos, pretty much stated they will wait until court, but have opted to not be open with their opinions on the matter(smart move really).
I never got the TFS/Sabat connection. In fact, I’ve never understood the Sabat as top dog kingpin speculation.

E) Getting caught with possession of a shitload of Cocaine
F)It coming out you did AVs a few years ago
G)Joining an actual cult
I don’t know what any of these are, and part of me is asking if I want to.
 
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