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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

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  • Hunchback 2

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  • A slow death

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I saw this video in the SW thread about Disney attacking a park blogger over a harmless rumor regarding the Tiki Room and thought it might be worth posting here since it seems Disney is really interested in shooting itself in the foot as of late.

Also, these shitty live-action remakes seem to be doing too well but where is most of that profit coming from? The west or China? I kinda figure Disney is really craving that chinese dicky what with how close they're working with China for the Mulan movie.
 
The west or China
The Jungle Book Domestic: $364,001,123,Foreign: $602,549,477
Beauty and the Beast Domestic: $504,014,165, Foreign: $759,506,961
Aladdin Domestic: $323,339,853, Foreign: $602,000,403
Dumbo Domestic: $114,567,886, Foreign: $237,425,166
Maleficent Domestic: $241,410,378, Foreign: $517,129,407
Cinderella Domestic: $201,151,353, Foreign: $342,363,000
Christopher Robin Domestic: $99,215,042, Foreign: $98,529,335( probably would have been higher if it was released in China)
Mary Poppins Returns Domestic: $171,958,438, Foreign: $177,579,056
Most of the profit abroad ends up coming from China, Japan,Russia, Mexico, South Korea and the UK. There's absolutely no way Disney is ditching live action remakes as long as the outside world keeps opening up their wallets
 
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Found some weird stuff on fetlife.

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Can anyone who's been to both Disneyland and Magic Kingdom give me the skinny on the differences? Which one is better?

I've been to WDW many times but not to Disneyland even once.

What really bums me out is the Indiana Jones ride, I would have absolutely shit myself with glee to have rode that as a kid, I'm sad it never happened, but as an east coaster my family never had any reason to fly to Disneyland when WDW was within driving distance.

Why did they never build a version of that ride in Florida?
 
Can anyone who's been to both Disneyland and Magic Kingdom give me the skinny on the differences? Which one is better?

I've been to WDW many times but not to Disneyland even once.

What really bums me out is the Indiana Jones ride, I would have absolutely shit myself with glee to have rode that as a kid, I'm sad it never happened, but as an east coaster my family never had any reason to fly to Disneyland when WDW was within driving distance.

Why did they never build a version of that ride in Florida?
I've heard people regard Disneyland as the ghetto park, as it's older and on the small side (as opposed to the ton of land WDW is located on). It's also only the two parks, a couple of hotels, and the public Downtown Disney location, compared to the sprawling complex of parks and hotels the Magic Kingdom is part of.

Magic Kingdom is, in many ways, still very similar to the original park. There are some newer rides, but overall it's less changed and the most Disney-centric, at least on the animation front. I read somewhere they tore down their equivalent of Toon Town to put in an improved Snow White ride and brand new Little Mermaid ride recently. They also have the first Space Mountain, and a few of the early rides long gone from Disneyland like the PeopleMover, and Carousel of Progress.

Disneyland on the other hand has changed a lot. Due to the fact that there was only a single park for many years many of the rides that would be built elsewhere in WDW away from the Magic Kingdom instead went directly to Disneyland, such as Star Tours, and the new Star Wars land, as well as rides that never came to WDW and wouldn't have been located in the Magic Kingdom anyways, like Roger Rabbits Car Toon Spin and the Indiana Jones right you mentioned. For some reason Disneyland is the only park that has a Matterhorn Bobsleds and Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage.

Ultimately it comes down to personal preference. If you prefer something based around just the animated movies, then you'll prefer the Magic Kingdom. If you'd rather have something that expands beyond that, then Disneyland is the place for you.
 
I'd like to go to WDW one day, but it's pretty far away compared to Disneyland. The two times the family went, we practically paid a fortune both times. For us to ever go to WDW, we would've needed to double the savings, and there was also no guarantee we (or at least my younger brothers) would have put up with the car/airplane ride to Florida.

I saw that we have about two more years of putting up with Bob Iger before he steps down when his contract expires, but although I don't know the source, I followed this citation published just a couple months ago that's.... oof. If this is completely true, Disney may be trying to memoryhole it (archive link).

Abigail Disney tells House committee CEO Bob Iger's $65M pay is "a moral issue"
  • Disney heir says a CEO who makes $65 million a year should pay employees enough so that some don't have to ration insulin and sleep in their cars.
  • Abigail Disney told House lawmakers in prepared remarks that CEO Bob Iger "quickly and condescendingly brushed" her aside when she voiced her concerns in private, prompting her to speak out publicly.
  • The activist and filmmaker says Disney employees are required to throw out unused food at work, but some must rely on food stamps to eat.
There's nothing inherently wrong with Walt Disney CEO Bob Iger and other chief executives making tens of millions of dollars a year -- unless they pay full-time workers so little that some ration insulin and sleep in their cars to get by. That's what Abigail Disney, a descendant of the entertainment company's founders, told U.S. lawmakers on Wednesday.

"When I call out the problem presented by any man, however brilliant, walking away with $65 million after only grudgingly offering his own employees a wage that cannot support a single person much less a family, I know it will get a lot of attention, and hopefully jar a lot of sleepwalkers into consciousness," Disney stated in testimony prepared for the U.S. House Committee on Financial Services. "This is a moral issue," she said.

Disney also called out Iger last month in an opinion piece in The Washington Post, in which she noted Iger took home $64 million in 2018, or "1,424 times the median pay of a Disney worker." Disney has said and tweeted that she personally likes Iger but still views his salary as "insane."

The Disney heiress, filmmaker and activist said she tried to voice her concerns privately to Iger. In her prepared remarks, however, she said she was "quickly and condescendingly brushed aside." As an heir to the Disney legacy as well as its money, Disney -- whose grandfather and great uncle founded the storied company -- said she felt a responsibility to speak out publicly.

Questioned by lawmakers, Disney calculated Iger's yearly compensation at about $21,000 an hour for a 60-hour work week and no time off, saying she believed that's too much, and that $10,000 an hour would be more appropriate. That's especially in light of what the company pays its janitors and other low-income workers, Disney said. She also noted that while Disneyland recently hiked minimum pay to $15 an hour for its workers in Anaheim, California, economists peg a living wage at closer to $24 an hour.

Disney defended Iger and the company's pay practices.

"Disney has added more than 70,000 jobs during Mr. Iger's tenure and has made historic investments to expand the earning potential and upward mobility of our workers, implementing a starting hourly wage of $15 at Disneyland that's double the federal minimum wage, and committing up to $150 million to establish the nation's most comprehensive workforce education initiative, which gives hourly employees the opportunity to obtain a high school, college or vocational degree completely free of charge, with a mix of online and on-campus courses that provide maximum flexibility so employees can achieve their career goals," a Walt Disney spokesperson said in a statement.

"Mr. Iger's compensation is 90% performance-based, and on an apples-to-apples basis, his annual compensation in fiscal 2018 was $39.3 million, compared to $36.3 million a year earlier; in connection with the acquisition of 21st Century Fox, Mr. Iger's employment agreement was extended and he was awarded a one-time restricted equity grant of $26.3 million. Mr. Iger has delivered exceptional value for the company, its shareholders and employees: Disney's market capitalization has increased more than $75 billion in the last two months alone to more than $240 billion, and the stock is trading at record highs exceeding $134 a share compared to $24 a share when Mr. Iger became CEO in 2005, resulting in total shareholder return over Mr. Iger's tenure of 579%, versus just 209% for the S&P 500."

Domestic help
Quizzed by Wisconsin Republican Sean Duffy, Disney pegged her own income at about $6 million a year, although she said she also gave away more than that figure to charity. The lowest-paid housekeeper or domestic worker employed in her home makes $75,000 a year, Disney told Duffy, who then belittled the figure as insufficient compared to Disney's $6 million.

Disney argued in favor of proposed legislation that would require public companies to disclose more about how they compensate all workers, but she said the disclosures should contrast CEO pay to the lowest wage, rather than to the median.


"To leave the lowest paid full-time worker out of the equation is to imply that some people should be invisible and disregarded," said Disney. "I can say with total certainty these are not the values my family taught me," said Disney, who drew applause multiple times during the hearing.

In addition to paying workers a livable wage, Disney called on Iger on make food available to his workers. She said many survive on food stamps, "yet are required to throw away huge amounts of food on the job."

The heiress had other suggestions for Iger: He could take half of what the company doles out in executive bonuses to create an emergency fund to help workers with needs such as insulin, housing, transportation and child care. The company could also add several employee representatives to the Disney board, she said.

Happiest place on Earth
The entertainment giant could also rehabilitate dilapidated housing near its theme parks so workers would not have to drive for hours to get to work, and Disney could restore its stock option program for all workers, not just management, said Disney. She credited discussions with Disney workers for some of her suggestions.

Finally, "Disney could restore the right that workers once had to get into the park for free, since as things now stand, they cannot afford to bring their own families to the happiest place on earth," she said.

A study conducted last year by researchers at Occidental College and the Economic Roundtable found 1 in 10 Disneyland workers had recently been homeless, and two-thirds did not have enough food to eat three times a day. Disneyland at the time dismissed the findings as "inaccurate and unscientific."
 
Yeah that's disrespectful to Walt's vision of making a bunch of shell companies and funneling money out through incestuous deals within the Disney family
 
I'd like to go to WDW one day, but it's pretty far away compared to Disneyland. The two times the family went, we practically paid a fortune both times. For us to ever go to WDW, we would've needed to double the savings, and there was also no guarantee we (or at least my younger brothers) would have put up with the car/airplane ride to Florida.

If you have never been to WDW it's simply a place everyone must visit at least once in their lifetimes, it's incredible.

It's basically the closest thing the real world has to Rapture in Bioshock or something like that, if you stay at an onsite hotel (which you always should) you're fully immersed in this place and there's really nothing else like it.
 
I don't get why DL has better characters than DW. Like....they get Cruella, Maleficent, Queen Grimhilde, etc in Disneyland.

Also is it just me but is there no Gothel face character?

Nitpick but Mulan looks x20 times better in the outfit she wears towards the end of the film. Fuck the matchmaker outfit.
 
Heard a rumour they're going to remake the sequel to Aladdin, all I could think of was this lovely piece an animator made.
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Oh that’ll be a riot, hopping on to straight to straight to vhs sequels.

Also was at the mall yesterday and popped into hot topic for shiggles. Tons of the usual disney shit but I was genuinely surprised to see a small stack of Atlantis t shirts.
 
Oh that’ll be a riot, hopping on to straight to straight to vhs sequels.

Also was at the mall yesterday and popped into hot topic for shiggles. Tons of the usual disney shit but I was genuinely surprised to see a small stack of Atlantis t shirts.
It's old enough to be nostalgia bait.
 
Oh that’ll be a riot, hopping on to straight to straight to vhs sequels.

Also was at the mall yesterday and popped into hot topic for shiggles. Tons of the usual disney shit but I was genuinely surprised to see a small stack of Atlantis t shirts.
Does that mean they'll get a much lesser-known actor to play Genie, in the same vein?

Return of Jafar, starring Chris Tucker.
 
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I don't get why DL has better characters than DW. Like....they get Cruella, Maleficent, Queen Grimhilde, etc in Disneyland.
I'm curious, where do you find the specific character information? I went to the official websites to compare for myself and could only find vague statements about who's available.
 
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