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Random Internet Person said:
When was that? Knowing how chill of a dude Vic is and he doesn’t seem like the guy to understand how to survive on the internet, I wouldn’t be surprised if he took it.
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i dont think he'd take such a disingenuous offer. "yeah sure, i know you called me a rapist, but thats all water under the bridge. let me just text nick and tell him were besties again". not gonna happen
 
Henk Hill said:
Given one of the conditions is "Please don't sue me or my employers", sounds like it was before the suit was filed.
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i dont think so. just about everyone seemed to think he was going to take this on the chin. the fact that its gotten this far and hasnt stopped doesnt seem to have sunk in with them yet.

GethN7 said:
I think we need to start a new GFM for Nick's lungs, they must be seriously if not mortally damaged from laughing so hard.
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a good scotch cures all wounds
 
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Ponderous Pillock said:
I really don't know what to say to this garbage fire of a TCPA.

Like, surely there's a moment where the brain trust of lawyers for MoRon are going to go "no, seriously, shut the fuck up, this is not a good idea."? Like.

Seriously guys? You've just submitted a TCPA, supposedly from a lawyer specialising in it, which just endlessly repeats the defamation and also doesn't address one fucking iota anything that he's suing you over aside from doubling down?

How the fuck do these people actually function? I'll pick over the document tomorrow but.... the fuck.
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Maybe if they had consistent payments coming in they'd be more inclined to so.
 
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Clint Westwood said:
Wait, hold up. Now that I'm thinking on this...

Did Rial want the lawsuit or not? She was tweeting that she was ready and excited for this lawsuit and for "the truth to come out", and here she is in March trying to find ways to get Vic to not sue them.
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I think this was before she talked to an actual lawyer and realized the world didn't work the way she thinks it does.
 
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Desu Mountain said:
The GameFAQs thread has now split into two threads. One #kickvic thread and one #standwithvic thread. The mods usually delete duplicate threads but they haven't done it this time. Guess they're letting them self-segregate to reduce the flaming.
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Which one is bigger?
 
Ponderous Pillock said:
I really don't know what to say to this garbage fire of a TCPA.

Like, surely there's a moment where the brain trust of lawyers for MoRon are going to go "no, seriously, shut the fuck up, this is not a good idea."? Like.

Seriously guys? You've just submitted a TCPA, supposedly from a lawyer specialising in it, which just endlessly repeats the defamation and also doesn't address one fucking iota anything that he's suing you over aside from doubling down?

How the fuck do these people actually function? I'll pick over the document tomorrow but.... the fuck.
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GeneralMint said:
Is it normal to start a legal motion with a captioned photo? Is this a gawker article?
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They wrote this to appeal to Twitter, not an actual Judge. I think that's the critical point that's making it hard for anyone rooted in the 3D world to comprehend their thought process.
 
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Clint Westwood said:
Wait, hold up. Now that I'm thinking on this...

Did Rial want the lawsuit or not? She was tweeting that she was ready and excited for this lawsuit and for "the truth to come out", and here she is in March trying to find ways to get Vic to not sue them.
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no one believed the "we look forward to court" bullshit. I think they were hoping the bluff would scare Vic and make him back down. But now they've lied so much, to do many people, and dragged so many of their friends into it, they're stuck. They can't settle without looking like the liars they are and pissing off what few friends they have left who foolishly went along with this debacle because "surely my long time friends wouldn't lie to my face out of spite towards a more successful actor".

It is the lawsuit equivalent of "I don't know nothing about birthing no babies".
 
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As mentioned previously, there is a discrepancy between the affidavits of Lynn Hunt (pg 310) and John Prager (pg 370) regarding Vic harassing Japanese singer Mari Iijima.

From Hunt's affidavit, emphasis mine:

7. In 2007, Mignogna was brought back as a guest to Tekkoshocon due to his popularity as a character voice in the anime show "Full Metal Alchemist…" During his attendance, Mignogna took an interest in a female Japanese singer named Mari Ijima (sic). He constantly made sexual advances and followed Ms. Ijima to the point that… head of security John Praeger had to move her hotel room secretly and assign security detail to her with specific instructions to keep Mignogna away from her.
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From Prager's affidavit, emphasis mine:

3. In 2010, Mari Iijima - another celebrity guest and musician - was attending the Tekko convention along with Mignogna. Mignogna and Ms. Iijima were staying at the same hotel for the convention. Since I was head of security, I learned form other staff members that Mignogna was stalking Ms. Iijima and harassing her.… I decided to move Ms. Iijima to a different hotel room sot that Mignogna could not find her. I also ordered my security staff to keep a close eye on Mignogna during this convention.
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So was it 2007 or 2010? It appears Iijima appeared at the con both years (as well as other years). So did Mignogna. AnimeCons.com for 2007 and 2010.

For answers, let's look at the affidavit of Whitney Falba (pg 329), the "Live Events Chair" for Tekkoshocon 2007. Falba does not mention Iijima. She does mention this story:

5. Mignogna went missing several times during Tekko in 2007, and our staff had difficulty locating him.… I heard on the radio that a group of parents located a security officer and asked for assistance with locating their daughters who were missing. They were about 14 years old.… I heard on my radio another staff member state that he had located Mignogna and the three underage, teenage girls in Mignogna's hotel room alone with him.
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Where have I seen a story like that before? Oh, it was Hunt's affidavit:

8. Also, during Tekkoshocon in 2007, Mignogna went missing for several hours… We ultimately located Mignogna in his hotel room with an underage female by themselves.
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Okay, so Hunt and Falba seem to agree that this incident happened in 2007, and if this happened the same year that the Iijima incident happened, then that means it happened in 2007 and Prager just got the year wrong. And one or both of them misrememberd exactly how many underage girls Vic apparently had in his room. But then why wouldn't Falba mention the Iijima incident if it also happened in '07?

I mean, it's all just… Are lawyers able to catch this stuff and go back to affiants and say "your stories conflict, so you guys need to remember what the truth was and rewrite these" before they file things like these with internal inconsistencies like these?

Also, has anyone ever reached out to Iijima to get her side of the story? Searching for "mignogna iijima harassment" or "mignogna iijima stalking" and ignoring recent articles returns this interesting Yahoo! Answers thread but nothing else of relevance that I can find.
 
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3dguy said:
Yea this TCPA is ....
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RussianParasite said:
That is a metric fuckton of billable hours.
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I wouldn't be surprised if a certain group of unemployed Twitter lawyers wrote that pro-bono on every waking hour of the past 15 days and just forwarded it to Lemwah - just on the offchance they can claim they won the case all by themselves with it. Because they're that desperate for attention.

Honestly, I would count on it. I doubt Lemoine wrote all of that or that Soye paid for, like you say, a fuckton of billable hours.
 
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Up until now, I thought we were dealing with people who are too stupid and too invested in the SJW Kool-aid to ever back down and so they did what they always do: double down. We saw it with the original response and their behavior up until the deposition of Vic.

Then, they deposed Vic and tried to embarrass him and now, they have shown precisely what this entire fiasco has been about with their motion to dismiss under the TCPA. I can honestly say, there are only a few times in my entire life where I have read something that caused the hairs on the back of my neck to stand on end from reading something so frighteningly evil and sadistic as what Ron and Monica forced J. Sean to write for them today. I am beyond shocked at just how low these people will stoop in order to destroy a man's life for no reason.

I have never had a real moment during this entire case where I have felt strongly about the possibility of Vic losing. Sure it would suck for Vic but in many ways justice has already been served bringing this matter to a legitimate court where the evidence can be heard and off of Twitter. Furthermore, in the grand scheme of things it would not directly affect my life in anyway. But after today, there is no doubt in my mind that the world would be irreparably tainted if Vic does not have total victory over these people.
 
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