Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Teignmouth Electron]

Try replying in other threads, reading about the LOLCows, commenting on news articles, events, and cliques.

I'm a full metal sperg and do just fine here.

Join us in ANY fucking thread outside of Comicsgate.

And if you *really* want to fit in, drop some sweet dox.

 

[KingofNothing]

Zack's model is really interesting to me. He's name-checked Brian Pulido multiple times as an example of how he sees his business model working going forward, and I think he's really making some smart moves in terms of planning and scheduling his releases.

What remains to be seen is whether he can sustain this level of interest over the next few years, or if the hate dollars stop coming in at some point and the audience shrinks to an unsustainable level.

Depending on how this book is received, he'll have a loyal audience that isn't full of spite buys for a good while. But frankly, I think a lot of those backers legit just like Zack anyway. And if he finds out how to bring down the costs even lower he'll rope in the wallet clutchers as well. His youtube views aren't as high as they used to be, but if the actual books aren't shit, he'll probably be fine

 

[AnOminous]

There was less racism and more black actors/characters and female actors/characters in strong leading and supporting roles in a single year then Hollywood puts out in a fucking decade now.

CAN! YOU! DIG! IT!

It's almost like SJWs didn't invent diversity and, for that matter, are doing a shitty, horrible job of what was done better a generation before they were even fucking born.

 

[Ihavetinyweewee]

Is it just me?

Zack and Ethan, both seem to be teetering on being utter LOL Cows..

I mean, yes, fuck Mark Waid and all the other peripheral faggots/trannies that have infested comics. But, it just seems to be two sides of the same coin?

I mean Ethans a good artist, but his story ideas are shit and he is a well spring of stupid fucking statements.

Zack comes off as a stuttering autistic manchild who won't put his toys away. Also, he is a godawful writer. He did a video pontificating about all the stories he can write when properties become 'public domain.' He can't wait because he knows he can't make anything memorable himself. He has to shit up other better properties...

Am I missing something here?

 

[KingofNothing]

Is it just me?

Zack and Ethan, both seem to be teetering on being utter LOL Cows..

I mean, yes, fuck Mark Waid and all the other peripheral faggots/trannies that have infested comics. But, it just seems to be two sides of the same coin?

I mean Ethans a good artist, but his story ideas are shit and he is a well spring of stupid fucking statements.

Zack comes off as a stuttering autistic manchild who won't put his toys away. Also, he is a godawful writer. He did a video pontificating about all the stories he can write when properties become 'public domain.' He can't wait because he knows he can't make anything memorable himself. He has to shit up other better properties...

Am I missing something here?

A big comic nerd is excited about the thought of creating stories for huge comic properties he grew up with? Shocked I tells ya, shocked.

 

[damian]

Zack

No.

Ethan

Very close.

 

[RockVolnutt]

It's almost like SJWs didn't invent diversity and, for that matter, are doing a shitty, horrible job of what was done better a generation before they were even fucking born.

I think playing the numbers game is stupid but buried on the forums is me doing some number crunching on the demographics of Marvel when they were replacing everyone.

The TL;DR was the majority of nuMarvel protagonists were young-ish white women with a minority of adult black men. Every other demographic was underutilized to the point that some like Kamala Khan and Riri Williams were basically the only examples of their demographic. I don't really think Marvel has a diversity problem to begin with but it is funny how the "New and Diverse Marvel" was just white girls and some black men.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

It's almost like SJWs didn't invent diversity and, for that matter, are doing a shitty, horrible job of what was done better a generation before they were even fucking born.

If you saw Carl Weathers, Eddie Murphy, Mr. T, just to name 3 black actors at the time, most white dudes were fucking pumped to go see them in movies and in TV shows.

Grace Jones was a fucking Bond villain. And not some whiny fucking loser Bond villain, but a badass assassin. She also stared with Arnie in a Conan movie and had the coolest line ever in reply to "how do you show interest in a man?"

She said: "Grab them! And take them!"

Hell, just look at Miami Vice.

Asian dudes were getting work. Hispanics were getting work.

Big fucking name shows. Big fucking roles.

Then the 1990's rolled around with PC shit and by 2000 fagged everything up then the SJW's of 2010's burned it all down yelling "WHERE IS THE DIVERSITY!" because they only watched white-bread suburban bullshit on ABC and NBC and Lifetime.

Now they fagged up comics screaming WHERE IS THE DIVERSITY while they stole Captain Marvel from a strong black woman and gave it to a white bread crybaby who screams STOP OPPRESSING ME! as she jails you for a crime you haven't committed because BELIEVE ALL WYMMENS ORACLES!

 

[Ihavetinyweewee]

A big comic nerd is excited about the thought of creating stories for huge comic properties he grew up with? Shocked I tells ya, shocked.

Yeah, he started blabbering about 'Conan'. It seems his knowledge was the Frazetta paintings and the Schwarzenegger movie. He even admitted he was going to study up all on 'Conan'(cause he didn't know shit about it).

That didn't stop him from criticizing a 'Conan' comic, he didn't even seem to read. It was fucking gay...

He comes off as a no talent huckster to me. He found some angle exploiting nerd rage. I mean Mark Waid is worse, no question. But, Waid would have been smarter ignoring him and letting Zach fade into irrelevance....

Whatever though, each his own...

 

[The Real Official Adam]

I couldn’t give a shit. That Rumble Terrier dude is a douchebag too.

Rumble is my boy.

It’s fucking expensive. Crowdfunding’s entire purpose to to generate the capital to be able to make something.

Why didn't you finish the product first? With our book we are going to finish it first then hit crowd funding so after it's funded we can ship it out pay for printing, and shipping.

 

[Teignmouth Electron]

Zack comes off as a stuttering autistic manchild who won't put his toys away.

This is why we love him.

Also, he is a godawful writer. He did a video pontificating about all the stories he can write when properties become 'public domain.' He can't wait because he knows he can't make anything memorable himself. He has to shit up other better properties...

He’s way too optimistic about the prospects for monetizing public domain properties. He got some pushback after that video and I’m cautiously optimistic that he’s moderating his enthusiasm a little bit based on feedback.

Look, he’s not Alan Moore or Frank Miller or whoever you want to hold up as the epitome of superhero writers. I think his chops are adequate for what he’s trying to do, but he definitely could use some more seasoning and a good editor.

 

[Ihavetinyweewee]

This is why we love him.


He’s way too optimistic about the prospects for monetizing public domain properties. He got some pushback after that video and I’m cautiously optimistic that he’s moderating his enthusiasm a little bit based on feedback.

Look, he’s not Alan Moore or Frank Miller or whoever you want to hold up as the epitome of superhero writers. I think his chops are adequate for what he’s trying to do, but he definitely could use some more seasoning and a good editor.

Fair enough, I just had 'douche vibes' from him. But, if you feel he is genuine...doesn't matter. I've only kept a passing interest in this drama(which is fading)...

 

[Starscreams Cape]

...He comes off as a no talent huckster to me. He found some angle exploiting nerd rage. I mean Mark Waid is worse, no question. But, Waid would have been smarter ignoring him and letting Zach fade into irrelevance....

Whatever though, each his own...

How can you be a "huckster" when all you are doing is offering a product for purchase and then delivering that product?

And Waid is only a symptom of the disease. The fact there's a little extra juice between them is happenstance. If it wasn't Waid there's a decent chance it would have been some other industry ghoul.

 

[Stab You in the Back]

Zack comes off as a stuttering autistic manchild who won't put his toys away. Also, he is a godawful writer. He did a video pontificating about all the stories he can write when properties become 'public domain.' He can't wait because he knows he can't make anything memorable himself. He has to shit up other better properties...

Am I missing something here?

Companies utilizing public domain characters isn't anything new or out of the ordinary. Its why you see new Dracula and Frankenstein movies every year. This recent advancement on public domain means a lot of classic pulp characters and mystery stories are entering the public domain, so there's good reason to be excited.

That said, Zack is delusional if he thinks his public domain short story anthology will be anything but a disaster. Maybe if he pulled an Antarctic and made some transformative media like a new comic series combining old and new characters he'd have something. But writing single-digit page fan fiction about them is laughable. (just read the originals--they're still good!)


Antarctic's not-Mary Marvel, Mary Miracle. Please don't sue. Original Character, Do Not Steal.

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[Teignmouth Electron]

Fair enough, I just had 'douche vibes' from him. But, if you feel his genuine...doesn't matter. I've only kept a passing interest in this drama(which is fading)...

Well, he might be a douche too. He’s a former jarhead.

 

[KingofNothing]

Why didn't you finish the product first? With our book we are going to finish it first then hit crowd funding so after it's funded we can ship it out pay for printing, and shipping.

Because making comics costs money. Can you eat the cost of a failed campaign after paying everyone who made the comic?

Fair enough, I just had 'douche vibes' from him. But, if you feel his genuine...doesn't matter. I've only kept a passing interest in this drama(which is fading)...

He's very genuine. He's weird, but Zack doesn't bullshit people. He's actually pretty blunt which got him in trouble before dialed his videos back.

 

[verissimus]

This thread was very entertaining when it was mostly documenting the ongoing meltdown/collapse of the comic book industry and the lulzy personalities infesting it.

Transitioning to autistic play-by-play coverage of a bunch of Twitter/YouTube literally-whos as they sperg at each other over bullshit that happened in a six hour stream I'm never going to watch has not been a positive development.

Said it weeks ago that this thread will get ridiculous the moment EVS entered the fray because you know the crazies would follow suit. At least it could have been entertaining if Cecil came along.

Edit : @KingofNothing Captain Marvel has longer hair now? And actually looks feminine? Huh?

 

[Teignmouth Electron]

Companies utilizing public domain characters isn't anything new or out of the ordinary. Its why you see new Dracula and Frankenstein movies every year. This recent advancement on public domain means a lot of classic pulp characters and mystery stories are entering the public domain, so there's good reason to be excited.

That said, Zack is delusional if he thinks his public domain short story anthology will be anything but a disaster. Maybe if he pulled an Antarctic and made some transformative media like a new comic series combining old and new characters he'd have something. But writing single-digit page fan fiction about them is laughable. (just read the originals--they're still good!)


Antarctic's not-Mary Marvel, Mary Miracle. Please don't sue. Original Character, Do Not Steal.

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Definitely think it’s exciting from a kid in a toy store perspective, but very few of these projects go anywhere big. They keep trying with the Green Hornet and Zorro and no one ever cares, so why would it be different with Zack writing them? Or James Bond, Batman, or any currently protected character, for that matter.

 

[gobbogobb]

If there's public domain characters could really make money the studios would be pulling Mickey Mouse/Batman crap on them and keeping the IP alive for as long as possible.

 

[Teignmouth Electron]

If there's public domain characters could really make money the studios would be pulling Mickey Mouse/Batman crap on them and keeping the IP alive for as long as possible.

It’s also sweet that Zack thinks Batman will ever enter public domain.