Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

Quick poll for yins:

Can the term "badass" ever be used unironically to describe someone or something, or is the term forever ruined?

Yes, it still has legitimate usage: :agree:

No, it's overuse has made it exceptional, such as when people reference Chuck Norris: :disagree:

If voting yes, would you mind giving examples of whom or what may be referred to as "badass"? Also you're gay if you think it's okay to use. Just saying.
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I'm at a loss, do I want to see more 100% farm-fresh exceptionalism, or do I want to keep whatever sliver of sanity I have left?


This is the only slightly off topic thing I will say:

Pretty much my stance. I was pretty in on Comicsgate, but then it hit me... I don't need that shit. Like, as a descriptor/title. As it stands I mostly buy backstock at my LCS, and in a way, I think it helps them out better anyway. They keep all profits from what I buy, and most backstock is a little more pricey for issues - considering their value. So instead of spending $3-5 dollars on a 12 page 'may be okay in the long run' issue of X, I can buy more Spider-Woman and give them up to $12 for a well conditioned, interesting single issue that will only appreciate in value when the set is complete. It's the TLJ effect: Don't like Star Wars TLJ? Ignore that shit, you still have the OT and (if you must) the prequels.

Manga has its share of issues, but for the price point, it's miles better of an option. They are printed smaller, usually without color and yet a single volume can span at least five or more arcs of a western comic... The art pretty much stays consistent, usually only getting better, and sometimes hurts, but not usually. I wish some writers would know when to fucking end their shit though, and I wish others would get back to their shit (Looking at you Hiroe).


Fucking THANK YOU. That's my problem with TUG, he's fine for the most part, aside from sperging for clicks. But his clickbaity titles and dragging to get to the point really make him passable from me. Though I can tolerate him more than YF.

As for HanLeia.. She's the one who @'d FUNI saying "why do you hire a known Pedophile" right? The cunt who started all this? Reap what you sow, you dumb shit - and get out of Japan or wherever you are, you don't deserve them.

I've never really understood people latching onto group identities as if it's ever a good thing. You can hsbe the best intentions in the world but it doesn't matter. By definition you're creating a new in-group, and rival out-groups will form. So now instead of just yourself being called a Nazi, you and a bunch of people under one label can be called Nazis. And people will do it anyway regardless, so why bother?

You could call me a Vic Stan or part of ISWV by definition but I'd never label myself that. I know it's useful on social media to use those groups and hashtags but it becomes more about two groups fighting than just hoping for a positive resolution.
 
We got a new law twitter sped. This one fancies himself a poet.

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He finds the trashfire that is the MoRons TCPA filing compelling and agrees with the Douche and Akiva "gonna sue the Farms" Cohen.

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Jay Marshall Wolman. He's kind of a big deal on #lawtwitter.

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He works for Marc Randazza so there is a nice tie in to Popehat.


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Infidelity is infidelity. The first issue was that he was sleeping around, and then after that, he was sleeping around while being engaged to someone-- engagement being the only pre-marital status officially religiously recognized. Saying "he wasn't adulterous" is missing the point of his error.

Gonna smash that 'x' button, because I've never known a Christian to care about infidelity pre-marriage. You're not married, it isn't adultery. End of story. Christians don't like the infidelity between fiancees or a girl/boyfriend because it necessarily indicates nonmarital sex. Whether you're single or not while you do it means nothing. There's no Christian I've ever met who would look at Vic and say 'well, sleeping around is one thing, but you slept around while engaged!' They'd be more likely to say something like 'well if you were going to have sex why didn't you get married? Then you'd have avoided temptation'.

Though, as mentioned by others, it's irrelevant anyway because it's not something he's actively doing, and it's something he's clearly apologetic and repentant for. He could even preach/teach on the subject using himself as an object lesson ('I did this, it was bad, I lost someone I loved because of this. Don't do it')

The infidelity, and the 8 year long engagement to his fiance, are what made me think Vic did do something inappropriate at some point. In fact, I still believe there's too much smoke so there has to be a small fire somewhere in his past.

I'm pretty sure you can throw out the garbage about pedophilia, rape, sexual assault, harassment, homophobia, and anti-Semitism. A fan being uncomfortable about a hug/kiss is just going to happen; meet 10,000 fans, have 1% of meetings go wrong, and you get your "100 women" just as a margin of error.

He's admitted to infidelity, propositioning the twins, and pulling Marchi's hair, none of which are illegal/immoral, but they suggest the kind of incautious attitude that gets you that one legitimate skeleton in your closet. Like propositioning a girl who you thought was legal but was actually underage, or misreading a signal and grabbing someone's ass. I don't think he's done anything remotely near as bad as what he's been accused of, but you could probably unearth something he's legitimately sorry for.

The problem is his accusers are such exceptional liars, backstabbers, and dumbasses that I can't tell which accusation might be legitimate. The outrage mob amplifies every minute accusation, making them all sound suspect simply by their inclusion. ProTip: this is why you don't lie about sexual abuse, you idiots. This is why you don't listen and believe. Because it fucks up the reception for legitimate victims and the people trying to help them.

(ManJaw, I'm looking at you. You had the most likely reported/traceable accusations of the group, then spent the last few months lying so hard and so frequently I had to stop mocking Brianna Wu just to have time to process all your insane shit. The fall in credibility is amazing to behold.)

I can affirm through my previous research there is no fire for this. The cause of the rumors is literally just angry fujos. Something you have to understand with these types is that if you don't fit into the shape they think you should have, they don't believe you belong anywhere they are. Fujoshi have made anime all about their perverted gay fantasies, and when someone refuses to play along with them insistently enough, they determine that person has no business being in anime. This has been true since the 00s. I have personally witnessed this behavior, as while I've never been SJW myself, I spent a lot of time in their 'natural spaces', before Tumblr became their dumping ground.

Take for instance Black Butler. There's a joke gay character in it who's crazy. It's a man. Because of the way Japan interprets gays, the general concept is that 'if you like men you must want to be a woman'. Thus, Grell wants to be a woman. If anyone dared to call Grell a man while the manga was new and hot, angry fujo would descend and try to rip them to shreds. I set off a few myself just by being in proximity, and occasionally got a few cyberstalkers that tried to ruin my life spreading fake rumors and etc. They were irrelevant and nothing came of it, just a bunch of catty anonymous chatter, but the point still stands. Just being a fan who didn't fall in line with their insanity was enough to get them to try to drive me out by any means necessary. Now imagine what happens when the voice actor for their favorite gay boys says "actually, they're honestly not gay, I won't sign your gay artwork, I don't like yaoi, and I'd rather not say gay things for you".

I say all this to establish that yes, fujos are demonstrably absolutely this petty and vile. And yes, just saying "Naruto and Sasuke aren't gay for each other and that was never the intention of the author", or saying "No, I am not into any yaoi at all, and I don't like it" is enough to put you in the same category they place people holding signs that say 'die fags'. So Vic saying "You are absolutely allowed to love yaoi, and I'm allowed not to love it" is 100% enough to get them to want him to literally die. And that's without him teasing them.

As for 'did it happen'? Yes. That's absolutely what happened. I did the research. The nexus for the rumors as they exist are mutliple very public comments Vic said at conventions in 2009 where he decided to 'set the record straight' about his views on yaoi. By the end of the year the 4chan rumors (that mean absolutely nothing, because they were on 4chan) had moved to public consciousness, and by 2012, insane rumors of him having sex with 'underage fans' had started to pop up in dark corners.

There's no fire. Just fujoshi.
And get his channel nailed for using naughty words? The only way you're allowed to refer to pedos on leftist controlled platforms is to mention how they're stunning and brave.

Just use a codeword, then. Make something up, your viewers will understand what you mean and you won't sound as obnoxious as spelling it.
 
We got a new law twitter sped. This one fancies himself a poet.

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He finds the trashfire that is the MoRons TCPA filing compelling and agrees with the Douche and Akiva "gonna sue the Farms" Cohen.

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Jay Marshall Wolman. He's kind of a big deal on #lawtwitter.

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He works for Marc Randazza so there is a nice tie in to Popehat.


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The more I see of lawtwitter and the super lawyer clique the more convinced I am that they all get together once a month to finger each other's throats and assholes.
 
We got a new law twitter sped. This one fancies himself a poet.

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He finds the trashfire that is the MoRons TCPA filing compelling and agrees with the Douche and Akiva "gonna sue the Farms" Cohen.

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Jay Marshall Wolman. He's kind of a big deal on #lawtwitter.

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He works for Marc Randazza so there is a nice tie in to Popehat.


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I swear to God, all these Super Lolyers coming out of the woodwork we need some Smash Bros memes starring the “A New Foe Has Approached!” image with their faces on it.

Broke Bitch Lawyer is the best character, aside from Failure Husband Lolyer with the Lesbian Ex-Wife.
 
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I swear to God, all these Super Lolyers coming out of the woodwork need some Smash Bros memes starring the “A New Foe Has Approached!” image with their faces on it.

Broke Bitch Lawyer is the best character, aside from Failure Husband Lolyer with the Lesbian Ex-Wife.
Finding out that Akiva had pulled a Ross gave me a good laugh, having a giggle at their failures is the only redeeming part of their role in weeb wars.
 
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I'm somewhat of a fan of Bob's Burgers and my favorite of the three younger characters is Louise. In one episode where they are lost in the woods she comes to the conclusion that her older sister Tina is basically part of a cult after reading a doomsday prepper, nature survival guide in one episode that states:

Beware of any organization that rewards members with empty titles or trinkets. These are the wool of the sheep

I'm pretty sure Super Lawyer is just as hilariously stupid as if you saw "super doctor", "super veterinarian", "super dentist", or "super chiropractor". I cannot believe that any grown-up adult would ever in a million years pay for something so stupid as the "right" to put "super" in front of their name. I am doubly in disbelief that there are idiots out there who are more than willing to go along with what these people say just because they payed 100 dollars to be part of some club where they are given a meaningless title.
 
Nope.
Yellow Flash, Hero Hei (who, understandably, has been extra cautious due to the DMCA filing by Christopher Macdonald), and especially Senpai is Home have all been trying their damndest to not get their videos demonitized by avoiding certain words (if you've noticed). Senpai can't catch a break as every other video is demonitized that he is frustrated with YouTube's policy. It's not the case when they livestream, though.

Im not just talking about people who specifically talk about the case. There are many a vid maker who says bad words on the internet.
 
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