Trump Derangement Syndrome - Orange man bad. Read the OP! (ᴛʜɪs ᴛʜʀᴇᴀᴅ ɪs ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴋɪᴡɪ ғᴀʀᴍs ʀᴇᴠɪᴇᴡs ɴᴏᴡ) 🗿🗿🗿🗿

TowinKarz said:
Nah Bruh, in the 3rd world they just drive a tank into the Presidential Palace, declare him a traitor, shoot him, and some hotshot Colonel puts himself in charge.
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If only...

It's HK-47 said:
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You know, I'm starting to think that the "House Intelligence Committee" is actually meant to be an ironic name.
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Of course he did his job, and by job i mean wasting millions of dollars in a witch hunt that achieve absolute nothing, the hearing was just him trying to justify the fact that he wasted everyone time

And did not they tried this last week? the congress doesn't have anything better to do that annoy orange man?
 
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Jigglyjogglers said:
Y'know, just stepping back a little... I know most of this shit is just TDS and pandering to their TDS-frothing twitterbase, but I also have to wonder how much of it is revenge for Bill Clinton. How many Democrats have just been piddling their pants with eagerness wanting to get articles of impeachment passed against a Republican President to score one back for ol' Still Bangin' Bimbos?
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Even funnier, the fact that they essentially set the precedent that being a dilly-dallying pig isn't impeachable (which is what the Reps were trying to oust him over, the perjury was a pretense, they really thought they could rile up the "moral majority" to back them) means they can't get Trump for "Grab em by the Pussy, The Squad should got back to where they came from" stuff.

They may only now be coming to realize that thanks to their own precedent, set in their own lifetimes, nothing short of actual felonies or collusion with foreign powers can possibly get a President presiding over a nation at peace and economic stability impeached.

And if Russiagate won't stick, they've got nothing, because the Big Red impeach button now has a locked piece of safety glass over top of if, that they installed themselves, that says

"USE FOR TREASON ONLY - THIS MEANS YOU KENNETH STARR"​
 
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heyitsmike said:
Not that there was much doubt, but Trump's strategy to tie the Democrats' moderate wing to their progressive wing has been vindicated in the greatest way possible.

What's that Nancy? You're say you're not too different from AOC? Thanks for the heads up!
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Then go for the impeachment. C'mon, do it! AOC was directly calling for it. You know you want it.
 
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heyitsmike said:
Not that there was much doubt, but Trump's strategy to tie the Democrats' moderate wing to their progressive wing has been vindicated in the greatest way possible.
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What's that Nancy? You're say you're not too different from AOC? Thanks for the heads up!
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And Boehner thought he had it bad when dealing with Tea Party Republicans (well politically speaking he did simply due to numbers), Nancy can't even handle a couple of junior representatives that are all crazy, stupid, and utterly unappealing to anyone not to the Left.
 
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Yeah, recently there was a vote to begin the impeachment process before Grandpappy Mueller ran out the clock, feigned incompetence, and looked physically weak and sounded mentally feeble. Regardless of whether you think it was totally an act, his brain is mush, or some combo of the two, that only got 95 votes out of 235 Democrats, and no Republican votes in the House.

You could hear the Trump Derangement Syndrome people saying things on CNN and MSNBC in game terms and sports analogies like, "Mueller needed to score some points for us. Mueller needed to run with the ball and he fumbled it." They thought Mueller was going to convince people to back impeachment. Instead, he's almost certainly soured people on it. I think Republicans and Moderates to a large degree bought the War Hero Super Hero Judge Dredd line on Mueller, and then seeing him turn in that "doddering" performance and the media all but cop to the investigation being ran by Weissman and his other cronies, his other "team leaders," shoots the whole thing to shit. If Robert "Hands off" Mueller was eating oatmeal and watching Bonanza reruns while a bunch of sleazy Hillary and Obama fixers were running it, the special counsel takes on a whole new dynamic. You've already got House reps and senators saying they are pissed that Mueller either won the Academy Award for Feigning Tactical Senility or really was mush-brained, and was ignorant either way about the investigation. I can't think of how any Republican is supposed to get on board with impeachment now.
 
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I understand a lot of people in the thread won't see it this way, but I don't like that TDS has deprived the country of a viable opposition party.

The thing is, even when I disagree with the opposition, I want them there, and I want them to be both rational and viable. Not every idea I support is a good one, and not every idea by a party I support is either. I want a check on any party.

Now, it's also true that I'm not a Republican. But even if I were, I wouldn't want to see the Democrats crash and burn, and that's exactly what they seem to be doing. I don't want one-party national rule.

I have the gravest concerns about our national future. TDS is fun for Kiwis to mock, but sometimes I worry about reality more than I love lulz.

Okay, enough seriousposting, time to point and laugh again.
 
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It's HK-47 said:
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You know, I'm starting to think that the "House Intelligence Committee" is actually meant to be an ironic name.
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If they're still going to do this stupid shit then here is what is probably going to happen.
First, if they do start with opening an impeachment inquiry that all that we will probably know about are any of Donald Trump's business dealings in the past like any of his big real estate deals, bankruptcies, and foreign investments that aren't really that atypical for a businessman. Would there be some dumb shit that Donald Trump that has done on his record? Probably but I'm sure that it's not really anything all that impeachment worthy.

Second, the big problem with going for impeachment now is that the Democrats currently don't have a strong supermajority (having all of the necessary seats or even the support from the GOP) in the Senate. The impeachment process is first done in the House where investigations are done and a trial is then hosted in the Senate and if the Senate finds the accused guilty then they vote for having a government official to be impeached. The big problem with this is that the Senate is still controlled by the GOP and so the Democrats still face a huge roadblock in the Senate since it's clear that most of the GOP is still rallying behind Donald Trump at this point.

The big problem here is that the Democrats are repeating the same mistakes that the GOP did during Bill Clinton's final days in office. Now looking at all of it back in retrospect, it was really stupid of Bill Clinton to cheat on his wife, Hillary Clinton, by having an affair with Monica Lewinsky but none of that actually disqualifies him from performing his duties in public office. So the GOP started this moral outrage campaign against Bill Clinton and they would impeach him in the House but the GOP in the Senate didn't had the two-thirds majority vote that is required to impeach someone. So after all of this, Bill Clinton's approval rating jumped high after he survived impeachment.

So if the Democrats are that dumb enough to proceed with impeachment at this point then it's going to end with them looking like total asses of themselves and make Donald Trump look stronger in the end and with an election coming up then at this point doing any impeachment proceedings now is really going to hurt the Democrats when it inevitably blows up in their faces.
 
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AprilRains said:
I understand a lot of people in the thread won't see it this way, but I don't like that TDS has deprived the country of a viable opposition party.
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No, I agree, in theory. I don't like the idea of what's effectively a one-party state even if it's the party I agree with. Competition breeding better conditions for the end user isn't just a concept limited to business.

Where I'm going to have to disagree with you is the idea that it's TDS that's caused it, or rather, that it's only with the rise of TDS that we've become a one-party state. We were already practically a one-party state before Trump, that party was just the Democrats. And just like right now, they had no interest in actually advocating for or looking after their constituents, it was all about pushing their agenda. And the Republicans consistently rolled over and let them do it. For all the Democrat rage at Bush and claims that he ran roughshod over them, the reality was that he was probably their most ideal Republican president outside of the potential for McCain (which they didn't want when it was offered because ew Republican but also Black Jesus), and all his 'doing whatever he wanted' was actually what they wanted too, they could just conveniently claim to have not liked it after the fact.

The Trump era is the first time since at least the eighties that the Republicans have become an actual opposition party to the Democrats again. The fact that it coincided with the Democrats collapsing into a quivering puddle of rage-snot is the only reason we don't have an actual pair of parties competing right now. And yes ideally it would be nice to see them "return" to sanity, but it's not like they just need to take a few steps back on a path, this is a long, wet slope they've been gleefully running down for a good thirty years now, climbing back up it would be difficult, and if there's anything a Democrat hates it's difficulty.
 
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Jigglyjogglers said:
Where I'm going to have to disagree with you is the idea that it's TDS that's caused it, or rather, that it's only with the rise of TDS that we've become a one-party state.
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Not what I meant. What I claim is that if the Democratic Party continues along its current path, it may not recover at all. If that happens, until some other party fills in the gap, we may be looking at a monoculture.

Of course, the Democrats were predicting the end of the Republicans not long ago, so take my concerns with a grain of salt. And never underestimate the ability of the GOP to drop the ball.
 
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