Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

[Maxie]

Sarah Jean has a new video wherein she completely misunderstands dog behaviors and gives away that her mutt is completely unsuitable for working. Might as well have titled this "MEAN KIWIS I AM NOT ABUSING MY DOG." But proceeds to give away that she is.

-Makes up dog breeds and claims her dog is a mix of them
-Talked to her docs about getting a service dog when she first started getting sick in Florida
-She swears she didn't want a service dog. Uh huh.
-Got her when she was a year or a year and a half old
-Doesn't believe SDs should be going everywhere with their handlers. uhm. That is the point of them. That's why you select dogs that have a drive to work and a happy demeanor like goldens and labs, not anxious-as-fuck mix breed shelter mutts.
-never takes the dog if she has the wheelchair. Have videos that say otherwise.
-tried to find a trainer but none will help her because she's a husky mix and they're not meant for service.
-Admits freckles is temperamental and says she doesn't want to "ruin her personality" by making her work too often. No. If your dog is temperamental it shouldn't be working period.
-one company met her and wanted $40k to train her, SJ didn't have that kinda cash so she did some google searches on dog training and trained her herself. Taught her basic obedience, knows she's not skilled enough to train retrieval et al nor does she have the patience to work with her. Might go to fucking petco to see if they can train her.
-BUT THINKS SHE WAS QUALIFIED TO SAFELY TRAIN HEAVY MOBILITY WORK. Uses the dog to brace her when she stands up from the floor putting her "body pressure" on her, uses her for support going up and down stairs (she "learned herself" how to pause on every step and lean against her. Yeah my one dog does that too. He's also anxious as all hell and he's looking to me for reassurance that he's still being a good boy and I still love him.) Uses the mobility harness to stop herself when she starts to "fall".
-Was training to be an alerter to her "episodes" but gave up after 6 months without results. Claims Freckles knows very occasionally that she's about to have an "episode" and bothers here, also known as "she is a dog and wants attention"
-If SJ falls Freckles lays on her; if SJ falls down in the road, Freckles tries to pull her out of danger. Or your dog saw you hit the ground and thought FUNFUN WRESTLE PLAYTIME WITH HUMAN
-uses Freckles' mobility harness bridge to brace herself when getting off bar stools after drinking.
-as a SD handler SJ must keep her dog safe and happy. Your dog is not happy and is a danger to others.
-Walks the dog two miles sometimes while in her wheelchair. That is not even the bare minimum daily exercise requirement for a husky
-Dog works about 25% of the time because her doctors want her to "really push her heart" and ditch the chair and dog. Or they know you don't need them.
-Wants to train the dog to retrieve because sometimes she drops the TV remote and she wants her to retrieve bottles of water for her, but the dog isn't interested in learning and doesn't take commands because she's not a fucking service dog.

Alright. Give me the hats. I'm officially mad on the internet. That dog isn't even calm in her own home. Look at the tail held low, the yawning, the panting in an air conditioned room, the shifty eyes. That's a dog that is very uncomfortable.

What is with the episodes she keeps talking about? Have we ever seen one on film? She runs up and down the stairs all the time perfectly fine without holding onto the handrail. Definitely not a sign of someone who needs a mobility dog. Getting off high barstools? What a joke.

Most dogs get concerned if their owner fails. I know mine does, that's not anything special. I use to have a dog that alerted me when I stopped breathing in my sleep because it didn't want to hear the apnea alarm go off. Guess I should have slapped a vest on her and called her a service dog.

 

[Toohottotrot]

: according to the whiteboard at her hospital, a month ago she had an August 30, 2019 discharge date which is strangely specific for being two months in the future at that time. ED admission maybe? Using it as a carrot, "if you eat and stop fucking with everything you can get out by the end of August"? Wishful thinking by the staff that they'll get all her problems sorted and send her home by then?
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This is where she went to culinary school.

a munchie in new zealand how weird our healthcare system is set up very similarly to the nhs . An ED would explain the hospitality school stuff. never seen treatment whiteboard(or whatever they are called) in a psych patients room

 

[Ellesse_warrior]

Sorry, I forgot to add this to my Paige post re: her baldness. She claims it almost all fell out and then she shaved it, but of course there's no photos online of what she looked like before her current cyborg incarnation.
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She probably started losing her hair because she had an eating disorder, none of her meds make sense for hair loss and it doesn't look like alopecia to me.

I went back through the thread to find out where the first posts about her were its pages 129-131 for anyone that wants her links etc. Interesting that she seems to have caught sepsis again twice since then.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

She probably started losing her hair because she had an eating disorder, none of her meds make sense for hair loss and it doesn't look like alopecia to me.

I went back through the thread to find out where the first posts about her were its pages 129-131 for anyone that wants her links etc. Interesting that she seems to have caught sepsis again twice since then.

First time she was posted here: June 11.
Second half of June was taken up by fucking with her new suprapubic catheter trying to get sepsis, complaining of fevers and infections.
Sepsis #9 announced: July 4, announced she beat it July 13.
Sepsis #10 announced: July 15

So, yes, she claims to have had sepsis two times in the 6 weeks between then and now.

 

[Ellesse_warrior]

Wouldn't having only two days between bouts of sepsis be an indication that the original infection just hadn't cleared? I know we're talking about munchies and every symptom is a diagnosis in it's own right but if we were talking about a regular person I would have thought that was the most logical conclusion rather than a brand new infection.

 

[Maxie]

Wouldn't having only two days between bouts of sepsis be an indication that the original infection just hadn't cleared? I know we're talking about munchies and every symptom is a diagnosis in it's own right but if we were talking about a regular person I would have thought that was the most logical conclusion rather than a brand new infection.

But then she wouldn't get another notch on her IV pole of diseases

 

[Sooperspoonie]

Long time lurker, first time poster, also another Illnessfakers defector. I can’t handle the hand-wringing, munchie-enabling bullshit anymore. This is much more my vibe. I’m still learning the format and finding my way around, but thank god I don’t have to see 20 separate posts a day about Amanda/Ren.

 

[Ms.bojangles]

A post written by a munchie to empower munchies everywhere!!! Has been reposted by many including IF's own Ren/Amanda (depending on the day of the week). The munchies just bury themselves deeper and deeper. Nice try at rationalizing though...

 

[Carnavoyeur]

Presenting: Sad Walrus
"I'm sad that I won't be able to eat BBQ with the rest if my family but I'll enjoy a milkshake (and then drain)."
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I think I found new favorite to add to my squad.

Is this another one who wants to be like Mimi from La bohème, but had to take up munching because they can't get something romantic like tuberculosis?

 

[dopedodo]

I think it's weird nobody is calling her on her bullshit. I understand that people don't like to confront munchies, because calling out a "sick" person makes you look like an asshole, plus it requires some research, but with that chick it's really obvious that she's just doing a bad interpretative dance and trying to make it seem more serious and deep by pretending it has anything to do with autism.

Unfortunately Autie is WAY too much of a public figure for any one to call out. She's centred herself firmly in the Autistic Acceptance movement in the UK and beyond, and even people I thought were pretty bullshit-proof are liking and sharing her posts.

-cyclizine is an antiemitic sold as a travel sickness med (not available in the US anymore but formerly sold as Marezine and the children's formulation of Bonine)
-Phenergan is an oldschool antihistamine used as an antiemitic
-Pregabalin is Lyrica, used for neuropathy especially diabetic neuropathy; shingles; and fibromyalgia
-Laxol is the otc stool softener Colace.
-Paracetamol (acetaminophen in the US because we're special) is Tylenol
-Clonazepam is Klonapin, a benzo sedative
-Loratidine is the allergy medication Claritin
-Ranitidine is the antacid Zantac
-Naproxen is an NSAID sold as Aleve amongst other names
-Doxycycline is an antibiotic, one of the most widely used first line ones
-Promethazine is just the generic for Phenergan
-Lorazepam is Xanax

Sorry to nitpick you KFS, but Lorazepam is Ativan not Xanax. Not a real difference in function/purpose though.

I love me some benzos so I'm annoyingly good at knowing what's what.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

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Long time lurker, first time poster, also another Illnessfakers defector. I can’t handle the hand-wringing, munchie-enabling bullshit anymore. This is much more my vibe. I’m still learning the format and finding my way around, but thank god I don’t have to see 20 separate posts a day about Amanda/Ren.

We can make 20 separate ren posts if you'd feel more at home.

JK my current mission is doxing Party_Wurmple because I fucking warned her.

Sorry to nitpick you KFS, but Lorazepam is Ativan not Xanax. Not a real difference in function/purpose though.

I love me some benzos so I'm annoyingly good at knowing what's what.

Son of a twat, I even looked it up because I always get the benzos confused. Xanax must have been listed as a related drug or something.

 

[dopedodo]

Son of a twat, I even looked it up because I always get the benzos confused. Xanax must have been listed as a related drug or something.

Xanax is Alprazolam. They all sound the fuckin same, even doctors confuse them. Over here we stick to generic names not brand names because it's less confusing.

 

[YC 024]

There are so many aggravating moments within mysterelles’ last 5 or 6 posts that I don’t even know where to begin. This woman is in her 20s and seems to be regressing in every sense of the word. Someone want to help dissect these?

 

[large_farva]

Sara Jean is mooing on IG about someone calling her out about how she treats her dog.

 

[medicaidmunch]

There are so many aggravating moments within mysterelles’ last 5 or 6 posts that I don’t even know where to begin. This woman is in her 20s and seems to be regressing in every sense of the word. Someone want to help dissect these?

her posts are so odd. i used to believe her but now it’s everyday she’s getting worse yet nothing is getting done. If she is truly as bad as she said she is, wouldn’t doctors want to help her?

And she does come off as a 14 or 15 year old. She’s not very mature. No wonder most people mistake her for a child.

 

[Ms.bojangles]

her posts are so odd. i used to believe her but now it’s everyday she’s getting worse yet nothing is getting done. If she is truly as bad as she said she is, wouldn’t doctors want to help her?

And she does come off as a 14 or 15 year old. She’s not very mature. No wonder most people mistake her for a child.

I literally thought she was 12/13 at first glance... But was shocked when I found out she was 20...

 

[large_farva]

The latest from dontpetmeimfaking:

Her dog is sick and she's threatening to kill babies.
this recent public facebook post is cute.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

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Sara Jean is mooing on IG about someone calling her out about how she treats her dog.

It took all kinds of restraint to just thumbs down the video instead of writing a novel in her comments about dog behavior, and in the end the reason I didn't was I knew she'd just get pissed ORF and not even actually take any of what I said under consideration.

She's so fucking stupid. Even ignoring that the dog is miserable and she thinks its anxiety/stress signals are normal, does she not understand that one incident where she puts pressure on that dog incorrectly could do permanent damage? Just one fake fainting spell or "brace me" could fuck up Freckles' spine or her hips, and you know she didn't have that dog tested for any degenerative joint conditions before she decided that she could hold up 140 lbs of histrionic munchie meat.

 

[Carnavoyeur]

PSA for all you /r/IF immigrants, if you're going to stick around please get in the habit of posting screenshots and archiving shit, instead of posting things like "did you guys see chronicallyspoonymunchyzebra's latest post on insta???"

 

[c6h1206]

I already posted this a couple of days ago, please read through the thread before posting >_<

I see that, but to me what I find interesting is she explicitly talks about her niece performing this task and her compensating her financially. Is Jan even turning a profit between patreon and youtube? I wonder if Jan never took the time to explain that you might come across this term munchausen and you need to delete all posts with that term and any variations. I mean her family must already speculate,

Her niece is what ? Like 17. Given that Jan comes from a family of learn'd doctors it is surprising that her niece is unfamiliar with the term. (Jan stated on her patreon that her mom was a psychiatrist when it was open for public viewing.) Joking aside though I am surprised the niece has not heard family members speculate about Jan's various illnesses. Jan has also claimed that her family was anti-medical treatment and withheld medical treatment for her as a minor. I think she claims the rationale was religious beliefs. I wonder how true that is and how common lack of medical treatment in childhood or perceived lack of medical treatment is among people with various types of factious disorders. Also, funny how her family is not aware that she bad mouths them on this topic. I feel like it would be natural for them to be inquisitive as to what she is saying in these videos.


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Another topic I wanted to bring up that is not specific to Jan. I have read some speculation about people running into legal issues surrounding insurance fraud based on receiving unnecessary treatment. How would that even work if they have a mental disorder that compels them to do these things? Wouldn't that kind of be a slippery slope? Like if an anorexic became acutely ill to the point they would up in ICU and it was not known they had anorexia and it later came out could they not be accused of defrauding insurance because they made themselves acutely ill by their own failure to eat. Obviously, someone is mentally ill if they make themselves sick and they find being sick gratifying. For some reason it makes perfect sense in my head that actions taken by people with munchausen by proxy are crimes and I also know that there was a case in the UK where they included defrauding the NHS in her charges, but I have a little bit more of a difficult time with munchausen patients being considered to have defrauded insurance providers or universal health care systems.