I worked In a Mental Hospital (with both Criminally committed and civilly committed patients)

Close friend did the same line of work for a good amount of time and had some hella disturbing stories.
There was one patient, a large lady who would go apeshit and batter staff / other patients whenever she'd have a mood swing. One day, she got in their sanitary towel bin and started smearing the used ones all over herself. My friend had to go home and change clothes because this hambeast of a lady had smeared her *juices* all over my mate's jeans.
Another story she told me was about when she was talking to a patient about his past - his past being that he molested a baby. He described to her how the child deserved it because it was naked etc etc. Fuck knows how she did that job without killing any of them. Needless to say, she's a big supporter of the death penalty now. Don't know how you do that line of work, man.
As for questions, sorry if it's already been asked but - worst sort of patient / worst event to ever happen there? Also, what are your thoughts on rehabilitation? Think the hospitals help?
 
They never would have released people based on budget cuts, the hospital gets money based on how many beds they had filled, they would cut staff down to 7 staff to 40 patients or some shit like that. People who were there for suicides would be there for a very short time typically (7-28 days maybe, rarely more than that).

One of the most dangerous patients in the hospital I worked was a 450lb woman who also did shit with her menstral blood / shit. She also knew if she fucking fell on someone their back, knees, or ankles might be fucked for life and HAD fucked multiple staff up for life. The hospital had to have a restraint chair straight up built for this bitch (if you've seen the reality show "Jail" they have a similar one) because the fat on her arms went over her fuckin hands and so she had to be strapped in all along the arms, and she was just so huge.

Probably about 40% or so of the criminally commited patients were pedophiles (and would never be released). The rules/privilege system on the forensic side made their consequences high enough that most would not talk about the sick shit they liked / had done. I think you mostly hold onto the fact that they will never rejoin the public and will die there, and you're a part of keeping that evil from the world.

As far as rehabilitation I think that depends alot on what type of patient we're talking about, however where I worked was more of a stabilization facility or prison. When patients got discharged they would be going to a group home or halfway house type of place before being on their own again. that being said.

- For personality dissorders (antisocial personality disorder = sociopaths / psychopaths, Borderline personality disorder, Narcissistic personality disorder, Histrionic personality disorder, and others, some of which I don't personally believe exist) that shit is a part of the person. The disorder is never going away, for borderline patients the best you could hope for is they live somewhat isolated with a team of caregivers that know how to mitigate the damage they're going to cause. For the majority of the rest it basically comes down to how well they can learn consequence / how well our system of law can impose itself upon them (I'd say they should never be let out personally, the lower IQ ones are never going to stop thinking they can get away with X Y and Z, the smarter ones might actually give up whatever exploitive behaviours they've used but the world has enough problems without them)

-For Mood dissorders I'd say theres the highest degree of rehabilitation / therapy potential, useually with medications on board too. Bipolar dissorder is probably more medication + brain chemistry than anything else, and anxiety dissorder is probably more behavioral therapy than meds (granted people normally need some kind of benzo to get to a level where they can actually make productive attempts at changing their behaviour). This shit is a real mixed bag.

-Schizophrenia I would say is 100% medication, now theres alot of shitty ways our (USA) mental health system deals with this however. (ALSO "A Beautiful Mind" is a fucking garbage piece of shit movie, John Nash Jr. Didn't fucking Mentally alpha his way through hallucinations, second generation anti-psychotics where developed and he chose to take and stay on them, whereas he wouldn't stay on the first generation ones because of how much worse the side effects where) So there are a few things to explain here. One is that first generation anti-psychotics (AKA typical antipsychotics) have a crazy ammount of side effects and those side effects are profound. Patients WILL gain weight, like alot of weight, especially in their gunt. They'll lose like 20-25% of their IQ while they're on them, fine motor control, useually their entire sex drive, they'll probably sleep 12hrs a day, and a bunch of other shit. Second generations (Atypical antipsychotics) Have some of the same side effects but generally a MUCH lower severity. Some of the second-generations have some other benefits (Invega Sustenna is a once a month shot, so a patients social worker / psychiatrist will know long before a patient is going off their meds when they fail to get their monthly shot (said shot being meds for the future, giving time to revoke their LRA (Less restrictive alternative, aka their release agreement) and get their ass back before they do crazy shit.
Another aspect of this is that ALL antipsychotics can cause EPS (extra-paramydial symptoms = ticks / involentary movement) the big dick EPS being a thing called Tardive Dyskinesia. Tardive Dyskinesia is basically an involentary movement that is serpentine in nature (wavy movements I guess), most common being in the lips. TD is essentially PERMANANT, on or off the meds that caused it, apparently theres the potential for that shit to go away like 15 years down the road but idk. Now Doctors used to think that if you took someone off their antipsychotic meds for a period of time and then put them back on them it would eliminate the risk of TD, however it is now known that the opposite is true and it greatly accelerates the development of TD / causes it. This shit is relevant because when you have a person with schizophrenia every time you take them off their meds (OR they stop taking them) or rapidly change them they become more resistant to antipsychotics in general forever. One of the psychiatrists I worked under for about 2 years would use a spring analogy, the mind can bounce back a certain number of times before it breaks and won't ever be sane again. Everything I saw working there lead me to think that was a rather accurate way to describe it. The patients that had been in and out of the hospital, or just in it for decades could never be brought to sanity, and sometimes we would get someone in who had been living a normal life with schizophrenia for 20 or 30 years and they changed to a new doctor and that doctor wanted to change shit up with their meds, caused them to break from reality, and they did some shit to end up at the hospital. Useually those patients would have a very short stay for a schizophrenic and be back out for us to never see them again.

--------- These are just my personal thoughts from working there, I'm not even an RN or anything but thats my take ---------

TLDR:
Execute or imprison the personality dissorders
Mood dissorders need a personal combo of drugs / therapy, maybe no drugs eventually depending on person
Schizophrenics that take their meds consistantly are basically normal people, you literally might know 1 or 2 and not know it. (1 / 100 people has it)
 
As far as a schizophrenic still not on a theraputic med level, still hearing + seeing things and trying to act like they aren't? Sure, but not even remotely convincingly.
EDIT : For a schizophrenic acting completely normal on it's own wouldn't get you instantly out of the hospital, they're going to have to go through the process to secure a LRA (less restrictive alternative) which is going often going to involve them being in a sort of halfway house for 2 months or more, and will always legally require them to take their meds, often those meds will have incredibly long halflives, often being injections a RN would have to administer.

People with most personality dissorders are doing that as their natural state of being, with varied degrees of believability (the antisocial personality dissorder people are useually decently to extremely convincing, but most of them are criminal commitements and new staff cannot work those wards for that reason. It's hard to describe the things you would pickup on because (with the smarter, more convincing sociopaths) we're talking a difference in phrasing or potentially a sentance a "normal" person wouldn't say. If you meet someone new and they just make you feel slightly uneasy but you aren't sure why they *might* have antisocial personality dissorder but you haven't seen where the differences are from working with those types of people alot. With narcissistic / histrionic personality dissorder its way way more clear in general, and most people would quickly identify these people as just being manipulative in general (I would guess Mumkey has Histrionic personality dissorder because of the way he tries to DIRECTLY associate himself and his experiences to extremely well defined experiences in media (that specifically isn't what I would call typical, but it isnt typical for most people to have the ability to be explaining their personal state in a recorded video they can control and edit / redo until they feel its perfect, normally histrionic people will do this on the fly when talking to a single / a few people directly, and will MORE commonly pull from any and every story they have ever heard, take the pieces they need and make it their own. Mumkey by contrast gets to put his 5th or 6th draft, his best possible and "cleanest" story forward, so liken yourself to fantasy because you arent speaking to anyone who actually knows you by proxy). Just my guess. Not to say that he isn't depressed aswell (bipolar maybe, but the manic things people have mentioned to me seem rather mild for someone with bipolar, and are p common with people fuckin with their SSRIs / SSNRIs)
EDIT: there is also a general missconception about liability / culpability for suicides of discharged patients. If a patient gets discharged and kills themselves the next day, the psychiatrist that deemed them stable enough to leave might recieve formal complaints, MIGHT be sued (BIG might), but likely wouldn't have any major consequence. A week later and there would be next to no level of understood culpability. If someone truely wants to kill themselves no one is going to stop them.

People with mood dissorders can do this, however they more often want meds to help them / want to feel better. Majorly depressed people will do this to get into a situation where they can kill themselves, and in mental hospitals its a known and commonly reinterated phenomenon that people are often too depressed to motivate themselves to suicide even if they are resolute to doing so. So when someone is on suicide watch and they have a quick upswing in mood you normally will assume they are excited at the prospect of finally ending their life. These patients would have been on suicide watch before the moodshift and absolutely will still be on it after they have a drastic upswing. Patients with bipolar dissorder are often going to pretend they're fine but that is either like "IM FINE IM NOT MAD FUCK YOU", and if not well, if someone with bipolar dissorder can fake it for 1 or 2 weeks and they aren't there criminally, their treatment team might let them out because thats literally all they are there for: to get in control enough to not injure themselves or someone else.
 
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Let's say I snap, show up at Null's house with a katana with DIE CIS SCUM carved into the hilt and get a 72 hour commitment. What would I have to look forward to?
 
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Well first off you'd get arrested, go to jail initially and maybe a 72hour, 7day, or 14day competency evaluation a few days to a month later. During that time you would be like any other criminally commited patient on the admission ward. It's mostly like jail but with even less things. No access to workout equipment, computers. You'd be able to use one of 2 landline phones for 5mins every hour unless you lose that privilege. Mostly you would sit around watching one of 3 TV's that are locked behind plexiglass and a psychiatrist would talk to you every other day, maybe less till they determine if you are competent to stand trial. If you never appear to be competent, you'll be staying until you are, or you go for a NGRI (not guilty by reason of insanity, granted, many states now call this "Guilty but insane") which is worse than pleading guilty to attempted murder. If you try to kill someone and plead NGRI you will likely NEVER LEAVE whatever state mental facility you go to and you will have a much lower degree of freedom than you would in prison.

Granted considering its Jersh we're talking about, they might give you a medal and a few ladyboy hookers idk
 
Good on you man. I'd say you're right in assuming an adult facility would be mostly the same. Except you wouldn't be allowed to have candy, jewellery or more than 10$ on you at any time. Saw 2 beds lit on fire in 5 years, ffs. Wouldn't normally see cutters or anorexics in a place like where I worked unless they where in immediate danger of death, or the anorexia was schizophrenia/psychosis related (saw 2 patients like this, they had delusions that they where the antichrist / a demon and needed to/deserved to die)
 
I know 2 psychiatrists use to give out scrips for benzos to staff that asked them w/o reason till they got in trouble, that was years before I started working there. In the hospital everything is in a pixus so nurses uuuuuseually get caught / would be taking meds out of what they've pulled for a patient. but it does happen. Mental hospitals do tend to have a larger percentage of nurses in the probationary programs who have already been caught dipping into the cookie jar, because some other state entity pays a portion of their pay directly, so the hospital basically gets a discount on those nurses wages. LOL ALSO, if you are legally partially disabled from mental illness but are physically ok to work and you're psychiatrist / social worker deems you ok to work, you can get hired at a state mental hospital, and the hospital only pays like 30% of your wage, whereas the state itself pays the rest. I fucking wish I was making this up. Yes we had former patients working there / they likely still do.
 
A lot of them freak out if you even try to give out coffee, or sugary snacks.

You're telling me there isn't a shit-ton of downers the med staff have access too in a psych ward? I think you misunderstood the original question below.

Is it true staff in these places steal the lucrative/recreational drugs like xanax/benzos/thorazine or opioids? I've always wondered about staff adjusting the patients meds higher on paper and pocketing the excessiv/uneccsary "good stuff" . Does your faciility deal with the recently self medicated IE heroin addicts and their detoxing?
 
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Yes that is what I'm saying. All of that shit is in a pixus machine, you can't get at it without a login / being a nurse and absolutely everything is electronically logged, and you can't pull something if there isn't an order for it. So the only opportunity for that type of shit is for a nurse to take a med they would be giving to a patient right then and there.

EDIT: The place I worked in no way did any type of addiction therapy / recovery. a TON of the patients where drug addcits, but that was for wherever the fuck they're going to be discharged to to deal with. It was a hard thing for alot of staff to deal with, especially some of the newer nurses because basically, if a patient had an order for say an ativan or other bezno PRN (pro re nata aka as needed/requested) they where supposed to give it unless that nurse could make reasonable medical judgement that it would cause immediate harm (an LPN wouldn't even be qualified to make such judgement technically)
 
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Good on you man. I'd say you're right in assuming an adult facility would be mostly the same. Except you wouldn't be allowed to have candy, jewellery or more than 10$ on you at any time. Saw 2 beds lit on fire in 5 years, ffs. Wouldn't normally see cutters or anorexics in a place like where I worked unless they where in immediate danger of death, or the anorexia was schizophrenia/psychosis related (saw 2 patients like this, they had delusions that they where the antichrist / a demon and needed to/deserved to die)

Ha, we had a "possessed by Satan" girl too. Patients and staff were discreetly briefed not to feed into her delusions and if she started talking about it to change the subject, but this was lost on a couple of rather religious Nigerian night nurses who tried to exorcise her. It didn't work. The hissing when they recited the Lord's Prayer was hilarious though.
 
Yes, but it's significantly harder for nurses to do that shit in a mental facility than say, a retirement home. We would get nurses that got in trouble somewhere else. I mean that shit happened sometimes but where I worked you'd be risking your entire career for 30$ worth of pills maybe? a tech like I was would have zero ability to steal meds.

Now if you're looking for shady medical shit...... I witnessed a few negligent patient deaths. I can write up some stories on that shit.
 
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Yes that is what I'm saying. All of that shit is in a pixus machine, you can't get at it without a login / being a nurse and absolutely everything is electronically logged, and you can't pull something if there isn't an order for it. So the only opportunity for that type of shit is for a nurse to take a med they would be giving to a patient right then and there.

EDIT: The place I worked in no way did any type of addiction therapy / recovery. a TON of the patients where drug addcits, but that was for wherever the fuck they're going to be discharged to to deal with. It was a hard thing for alot of staff to deal with, especially some of the newer nurses because basically, if a patient had an order for say an ativan or other bezno PRN (pro re nata aka as needed/requested) they where supposed to give it unless that nurse could make reasonable medical judgement that it would cause immediate harm (an LPN wouldn't even be qualified to make such judgement technically)
Yeah, I kinda question the whole "OMG CAFFEINE WILL MAKE DAH PARANOID FUCKS CRAZIER" shit. From what I've seen, it makes a lot of people easier to communicate with.
 
If you live in a major metroplitan US city niggers kill eachother everyday over less than $30 in xanax, when a $20 drug deal goes south but, I follow your POV.

Gonna hide my powerlevel as best one can but, I have a lot of second hand knowledge in US public schools severely handicapped children. Regarding the mentally handicapped Sometimes shit just happens, no real reason but, a shocking amount (to me) were fetal alcohol syndrome, crack babies etc etc. Some of the kids were foster children, I had assumed for years they were adopted by some bleeding heart liberal family; it was later revealed to me by my source some the foster kids were more or less "owned" by some nigger collecting checks from the government for all his "care", even got himself a bently. My source described the most violent kids behavior throughout the day and I always suspected it was heavy benzo withdrawl and the nog who owned them kept them doped up the 18 hours a day with benzos when they weren't in free government daycare AKA school.

The moral of the story is spay and neuter nogs they don't care for their offspring.
 
I mean, every single med where I worked was locked into a pixus machine that a pharmacy tech would come at the end of every single shift and a physical count would be done before the nurses could leave. Those machines will only allow you to open the compartment that has the specific thing you are requesting and records every single med pull, so you could just take like 20 xanax thats in one xanax compartment, but then later in your shift it would only let you access that box because it thinks there are still more in it, if you took less / later in your shift the pharm tech you or one of the other nurses that was going through the count with you would clearly see the misscount and they would go through every nurses login that had pulled that med that day (which normally only one nurse would be pulling meds all day long. In a retirement home / in home care company they don't control meds like this and people can take and sell meds real easy. Also nurses where I worked got paid close to what they would anywhere else, RN's started at 28$/hr if they were fresh out of school.

This is a pixus machine, each of the big droors has like 40 small containers, they dont keep like 200 of the same pill in a single one.

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EDIT: We DEFINITELY had patients who would come back in that had parents / lovers / roommates that where taking all their meds or selling them and letting them decompensate and go wild for a few dollas
 
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