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[BallBuster]

This whole “gender affirming care” nonsense is just that... nonsense.

What exactly constitutes gender affirming care? Waxing? What’s gender affirming about something both genders can have done? Hell even getting your nails painted isn’t truly gender affirming.

Giving birth, now that’s gender affirming. Getting a REAL gynecological exam is gender affirming. Stroking the old salami is gender affirming.

So what exactly am I missing in this whole “gender affirming” bullshit, because it seems to be a major cornerstone in Jon’s defense and it shouldn’t be based on how insane it is.

 

[Miss Misery]

Jonathan says:
- a brazillian is not a genital waxing service
- a brazillian has nothing to do with genitals
- it is (merely) a wax from the belly button to the butt
- a brazillian has nothing to do with male or female genitals

> Brazilian waxing is the removal of all pubic hair from the pelvic region, vulva, labia, perineum, and anus.

I mean I dunno about JY's "deformed genitals", but he's not asking for a goddamn bikini wax, which would NOT include genitalia, but a Brazilian, which absolutely does.

Edit:

This whole “gender affirming care” nonsense is just that... nonsense.
What exactly constitutes gender affirming care? Waxing? What’s gender affirming about something both genders can have done? Hell even getting your nails painted isn’t truly gender affirming.

And IF a Brazilian has nothing to do with male or female genitals as he claims, then how is it gender affirming anyway?

 

[BallBuster]

> Brazilian waxing is the removal of all pubic hair from the pelvic region, vulva, labia, perineum, and anus.

I mean I dunno about JY's "deformed genitals", but he's not asking for a goddamn bikini wax, which would NOT include genitalia, but a Brazilian, which absolutely does.

Edit:

And IF a Brazilian has nothing to do with male or female genitals as he claims, then how is it gender affirming anyway?

Exactly! This whole claim is insanity. There are a handful of things in life for both genders that can be called “gender affirming” and waxing isn’t one of them.

 

[homewayhalf]

Women don’t need our gender “affirmed” lol we know we’re women. What a crock.

 

[Rabid Weasels]

The thing with the 10 yr old: it could have been someone with poor English skills having their kid act as a translator. Happens all the time.

 

[Karellen]

This whole “gender affirming care” nonsense is just that... nonsense.

What exactly constitutes gender affirming care? Waxing? What’s gender affirming about something both genders can have done? Hell even getting your nails painted isn’t truly gender affirming.

Giving birth, now that’s gender affirming. Getting a REAL gynecological exam is gender affirming. Stroking the old salami is gender affirming.

So what exactly am I missing in this whole “gender affirming” bullshit, because it seems to be a major cornerstone in Jon’s defense and it shouldn’t be based on how insane it is.

You can thank Devyn Cousineau for that. When Jon filed his complaints she ruled that the Brazilian wax constitutes gender affirming care, and he has been parroting that line ever since.

 

[Lithos]

I wouldn't be surprised if Cousineau is crushing up Xanax into zinfandel at this point.

 

[Pope Negro Joe the XIIIth]

This part sticks out (no pun intended)
Jonathan says:
- a brazillian is not a genital waxing service
- a brazillian has nothing to do with genitals
- it is (merely) a wax from the belly button to the butt
- a brazillian has nothing to do with male or female genitals

You ever have those moments where your brain kind of chews on an idea until it makes sense? I don't think my coffee is strong enough because I think I've read these 4 points at least 20 times and I have nothing. Maybe I've learned about about a lot of weird shit through my female friends throughout the years, but I don't even understand convincing your brain to say these things in public. It's just so far out there that I feel like I'm in some mix of Kafka stories, like Gregor Samsa woke up in the gallery of the BCHRT as an observer at The Trial instead of becoming an insect in Metamorphosis.

 

[What This Old Thing!?]

You ever have those moments where your brain kind of chews on an idea until it makes sense? I don't think my coffee is strong enough because I think I've read these 4 points at least 20 times and I have nothing. Maybe I've learned about about a lot of weird shit through my female friends throughout the years, but I don't even understand convincing your brain to say these things in public. It's just so far out there that I feel like I'm in some mix of Kafka stories, like Gregor Samsa woke up in the gallery of the BCHRT as an observer at The Trial instead of becoming an insect in Metamorphosis.

Maybe Yaniv is the cockroach who woke up one day as a humanoid.

 

[RodgerDodger]

Love this post.
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He's becoming the best comedy routine in BC. He's going to be drawing more and more crowds.

Once again, he's never actually seen a Vagina in the real world. It's so fucking obvious.

The thing with the 10 yr old: it could have been someone with poor English skills having their kid act as a translator. Happens all the time.

So Johnny called on the phone and discussed fondling and waxing his balls with a 10 year old girl? Gee, call me old fashioned, but in my time you used to get thrown in jail for that.

 

[pr3nt177]

The thing with the 10 yr old: it could have been someone with poor English skills having their kid act as a translator. Happens all the time.

Which begs the question what got him fiddling himself more - talking about his genitalia to a 10 yo or trying to scam an adult for court?

 

[BallBuster]

So apparently his mangina needs upkeep in the form of waxing every 2 weeks. What a load of horse shit.



Unless he is claiming he JUST got a wax 2 weeks ago in which case I call bullshit also. Companies are going to find legal ways to not touch this person (or he is scaring people into touching his balls in which case he needs a thorough beating).

 

[Sourceress]

So apparently his mangina needs upkeep in the form of waxing every 2 weeks. What a load of horse shit.

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Unless he is claiming he JUST got a wax 2 weeks ago in which case I call bullshit also. Companies are going to find legal ways to not touch this person (or he is scaring people into touching his balls in which case he needs a thorough beating).

I wouldn't put it past him to have the hair growth rate of a sasquatch, but I think he meant he had one two weeks before the hearing, not two weeks before he tried to con PD into being alone in a room with his naked ass.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Interesting thing is that if you can find people to do a service, your case for compelling people who refuse that service becomes weaker.

E.g. the Gay Wedding cake case was bullshit because the people could have got a cake if they'd found one of the many wedding cake shops run by gay men. Instead they pretty clearly targeted the only Christian religious conservative they could find and then sued him.

Conversely if you look at the pre Civil Rights south if you were black you couldn't just shop around - there was segregation legally required by the Democrats.

Now the fact that Yaniv is able to get his bollocks waxed shows he's in a similar situation to the Gay Wedding cake people than black people in the 50's Deep South.

 

[Sourceress]

Interesting thing is that if you can find people to do a service, your case for compelling people who refuse that service becomes weaker.

E.g. the Gay Wedding cake case was bullshit because the people could have got a cake if they'd found one of the many wedding cake shops run by gay men. Instead they pretty clearly targeted the only Christian religious conservative they could find and then sued him.

Conversely if you look at the pre Civil Rights south if you were black you couldn't just shop around - there was segregation legally required by the Democrats.

Now the fact that Yaniv is able to get his bollocks waxed shows he's in a similar situation to the Gay Wedding cake people than black people in the 50's Deep South.

OT: I never understood the wedding cake thing. I think the bakery owners were assholes (homophobes are!) but I don't get suing them. That's not gonna change their minds. Just go to a different bakery run by non-assholes, wtf.

Anyway, yeah, the thing is it's abundantly clear that Yaniv targets low-income, immigrant women of color and calls around until he finds one (or more) that won't "service" him and submits HRT complaints. I really doubt he's ever actually even had a manzillian - I think the minute a place he calls says they'll wax him, he probably hangs up and curses because he can't make money suing them.

 

[usernames can change now!]

JY - (as a result of what I did) PD could not block me on FB, PD could not end her FB convo with me.

In a sane country Johnny would be rung up for harrassment and the case dismissed here.

 

[OttoWest]

Interesting thing is that if you can find people to do a service, your case for compelling people who refuse that service becomes weaker.

E.g. the Gay Wedding cake case was bullshit because the people could have got a cake if they'd found one of the many wedding cake shops run by gay men. Instead they pretty clearly targeted the only Christian religious conservative they could find and then sued him.

Conversely if you look at the pre Civil Rights south if you were black you couldn't just shop around - there was segregation legally required by the Democrats.

Now the fact that Yaniv is able to get his bollocks waxed shows he's in a similar situation to the Gay Wedding cake people than black people in the 50's Deep South.

We already had proof of Jon getting waxed at Foxy Box, and a few posts back on the OG thread I found Stripped Wax Bar, a Vancouver chain with seven locations that does manzilians.

But just in case Jonny can’t get the scoot scoot out to the city, a two minute google search finds at least four additional salons in Surrey, White Rock, and his home base of Langley that also provide male genital waxes: Bubbles & Wax, Luxe Tanning, Hot Wax Spa, and Waxbox.

I’m a little surprised the JCCF haven’t brought up this angle, or maybe I’ve missed it, but Yaniv isn’t hurting for local waxing providers, which makes it even more clear that his intentions were purely of the harassment/vexatious variety.

 

[dopedodo]

Love this post.
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He's becoming the best comedy routine in BC. He's going to be drawing more and more crowds.

You can't wax a "vagina" FFS. He's supposed to be an expert in ladyparts but uses vagina as a catch all term for the labia, vulva, mons etc?

 

[Fapcop]

So apparently his mangina needs upkeep in the form of waxing every 2 weeks. What a load of horse shit.

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Unless he is claiming he JUST got a wax 2 weeks ago in which case I call bullshit also. Companies are going to find legal ways to not touch this person (or he is scaring people into touching his balls in which case he needs a thorough beating).

Well what do you know!

Just like every woman I’ve ever met, Yaniv has no issues with informing total strangers about the current status of their genital hair.

He must either really be a woman inside, or just a very skilled observer of human nature!

 

[Norman B. Normal]

Interesting thing is that if you can find people to do a service, your case for compelling people who refuse that service becomes weaker.

E.g. the Gay Wedding cake case was bullshit because the people could have got a cake if they'd found one of the many wedding cake shops run by gay men. Instead they pretty clearly targeted the only Christian religious conservative they could find and then sued him.

Not the same issue. Bakeries were, and are, free to refuse to make a cake based on the message conveyed by the cake. You can't demand that a bakery make you a cake in the shape of a dick, nor can you demand they make you a cake with a swastika on it. What got these bakeries into trouble wasn't the nature of the cake itself, but the fact that they didn't like the people who asked them to bake it. And, frankly, fuck them for refusing. You're a baker. Do your damn job.

With Yaniv, the waxers are in fact doing their damn jobs, which is to wax ladyparts, not balls. Anyone who's ever handled both male and female genitalia doesn't need to have it explained to them that waxing techniques designed for vulvas may not be well suited to safely handle the paper-thin skin of the scrotum. It's not the same job.

Conversely if you look at the pre Civil Rights south if you were black you couldn't just shop around - there was segregation legally required by the Democrats.

This is not even remotely true. Businesses were perfectly free to serve an integrated clientele if they wished; that's what the Negro Motorist Green Book was all about. But many or most prominent businesses--e.g., the lunch counter at Woolworth's--chose segregation or whites-only instead, leading to widespread denial of civil rights.