Arin Hanson / Egoraptor / Grump - "Hey I'm Grump!" of Game Grumps fame, hypocritical SJW doxer, shat himself recording a let's play

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Anyone remember the time that Dan thought it was a good idea to tell their fans that he cured his depression on his own by staring at a lake and stopped taking his anti depressants cold turkey by throwing them in said lake?
It was super inspirational uwu!!!

I mean I kinda get why people liked that story but I guess it's a good thing that most of their "depressed" fans are just moody, angsty kids because no-one-understands-me-MOM!!!! instead of people suffering from real depression. Either way, if you really think about it traveling abroad and leaving all your friends and family (your support network) behind and then chucking your meds in a lake because the lake is pretty is probably not the way to deal with mental health issues. Just do a flip. It's cheaper.
 
Anyone remember the time that Dan thought it was a good idea to tell their fans that he cured his depression on his own by staring at a lake and stopped taking his anti depressants cold turkey by throwing them in said lake?

Link? First I've heard of this. Was he being facetious? Their young fans probably couldn't tell the difference from sarcasm.
 
Link? First I've heard of this. Was he being facetious? Their young fans probably couldn't tell the difference from sarcasm.
No, he was serious. He also says he has/had OCD because a friend told him to stop obsessing over something so he googled obsession and he self diagnosed via the web. Here's the clip, the pill story is right at the end, but the entire 5 minute clip is worth listening to.
 
No, he was serious. He also says he has/had OCD because a friend told him to stop obsessing over something so he googled obsession and he self diagnosed via the web. Here's the clip, the pill story is right at the end, but the entire 5 minute clip is worth listening to.

Actually I'll cut Dan a bit of slack on that, as the Wind Waker episode that aired immediately after that opens up with Dan expressing that, while he was glad so many people liked and connected to the story, people should not take his story as a way to do that themselves or treat how he handled it as gospel, because his story had a lot of other unknown factors behind it/stupid self-diagnose shit that may not be applicable to a large majority of the fanbase.

Didn't even need to get called out for him to do something like that, he just knew how some people would take that message and wanted to make sure the crazies didn't do anything because he told his story.

Kinda wish they still had that amount of self-awareness today, but alas: the California air be a cruel but alluring mistress.

EDIT: That being said...speaking of Grumps stupidity: they apparently uploaded the wrong episode of Phoenix Wright yesterday and continued on today from the wrong upload they uploaded.

If that sounds confusing, lemme put it this way: it went from Episode 32 to 34, and instead of adding the previous episode and fixing the playlist like they said they would here:

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Instead they continued on to Episode 35, meaning Episode 33 is still missing, despite Episode 34 being labeled as Episode 33. Meaning Episode 32 = Episode 32, Episode 33 = Episode 34, and Episode 34 = Episode 35.

Regularly scheduled video:


Video that released an episode ahead of where they were:


Video continuing from the episode-skip video:


Meaning the real Episode 33 is just lost to the ether now.

ALSO also, the new "The Grumps" intro is now right at the beginning of all videos uploaded after the Q&A podcast before it fades out to the regular "Game Grumps" intro, just in case the channel transition wasn't confusing enough.
 
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No, he was serious. He also says he has/had OCD because a friend told him to stop obsessing over something so he googled obsession and he self diagnosed via the web. Here's the clip, the pill story is right at the end, but the entire 5 minute clip is worth listening to.
Considering he was given Prozac, I imagine he was actually diagnosed with it at some point.
 
You'd think being in your forties, you would have some maturity and the ability to take criticism. I guess he's been in Commiefornia for too long and is destined to ride the trigger train with the rest of them. Seriously, what did he expect? His "job" is to agree with everything Dear Leader says and read donations. Pretty easy thing to be getting a paycheck for and too easy to be crying over having to do it.
I have to say, when Dan first came on the show, he was a genuinely very likable guy. He wasn’t really aware of anything from “gaming YouTuber culture” and instead opted to just wing it and act like an awkward, lovable goofball and it was actually very refreshing at the time since that was the point where every letsplayer began to adopt the stereotypical pro YouTube persona. Instead of just screaming and overreacting he made weird jokes and happily sperged about music and old computer games with whoever he was on the show with and overall he was just endearing. But after a couple of years working with Arin it seems like he’s lost his charm and he’s became a bland caricature of himself the same way Arin did, and now it seems that even that’s slipping and he’s nothing more than a bored co pilot to a screaming autist. He’s so unbelievably checked-out these days it’s hard to believe he’s still the same guy.
 
I have to say, when Dan first came on the show, he was a genuinely very likable guy. He wasn’t really aware of anything from “gaming YouTuber culture” and instead opted to just wing it and act like an awkward, lovable goofball and it was actually very refreshing at the time since that was the point where every letsplayer began to adopt the stereotypical pro YouTube persona. Instead of just screaming and overreacting he made weird jokes and happily sperged about music and old computer games with whoever he was on the show with and overall he was just endearing. But after a couple of years working with Arin it seems like he’s lost his charm and he’s became a bland caricature of himself the same way Arin did, and now it seems that even that’s slipping and he’s nothing more than a bored co pilot to a screaming autist. He’s so unbelievably checked-out these days it’s hard to believe he’s still the same guy.

He's facing artistic burn out because of game grumps, it sounds weird but it's happens; what an artist would normally do is leave the current project behind and focus on something different and explore new possibilities, techniques and shit. It's kinda what he's been doing with his music, from the regular NSP stuff to Starbomb and then the NSP cover albums, altho he's never gone too far from his regular style. He's also getting older, so the regular lovelies' shit isn't fun for him anymore and neither are Arin's antics.
It's sad because Dan puts genuine effort into his art and has come a long way since his office job days, up to being contacted by a genuine record firm and giving live performances on tv.

My advice to him is to get away from the black hole of creativity that is the Game Grumps office, it worked for Matt and Ryan, it worked for Barry, it worked for Jon Tron and it's going to work for him.
 
He's facing artistic burn out because of game grumps, it sounds weird but it's happens; what an artist would normally do is leave the current project behind and focus on something different and explore new possibilities, techniques and shit. It's kinda what he's been doing with his music, from the regular NSP stuff to Starbomb and then the NSP cover albums, altho he's never gone too far from his regular style. He's also getting older, so the regular lovelies' shit isn't fun for him anymore and neither are Arin's antics.
It's sad because Dan puts genuine effort into his art and has come a long way since his office job days, up to being contacted by a genuine record firm and giving live performances on tv.

My advice to him is to get away from the black hole of creativity that is the Game Grumps office, it worked for Matt and Ryan, it worked for Barry, it worked for Jon Tron and it's going to work for him.
I think the biggest problem is the comfort and security that Game Grumps gives to Dan. It's hard to sacrifice a constant thing for uncertainty, even if you despise that constant. I'm not saying Dan does actually despise Game Grumps, that would be waaay too dramatic, but I think it's safe to say that he's no longer passionate about it, that he probably doesn't like doing it too much any more.

Game Grumps is easy money for Dan. Stupid easy money, to be honest, since he hardly ever plays the games. All he has to do is show up and watch Arin stumble through whatever game was chosen for that session. Literally being paid to sit on his ass and hang out for 8 hours (give or take) a month.

I'm not even blaming the guy. I mean, shit, if I were in that position, something major would have to happen before I walked out. The problem is, it's just too comfortable. Dan has a guaranteed audience for NSP through Game Grumps, so he doesn't have to worry much about NSP losing fans. Dan carries GG, so Arin doesn't have to worry about improving because Dan draws in the audience on his own. Both projects suffer because of the overlapping fanbase, and because of that, both creators suffer from that audience stagnation.
 
Dan is off his rockers.. I think he's been in this play-games-and-eat-pancakes-or-some-shit business for so long that he's forgotten what a real job is like. It seems like a very deluded and entitled reaction to close off and be upset that he has to make donation announcements on streams and receive criticism for making decisions together with his co-creator that are very rude and show blatant disregard to the fanbase.
He is already living an easy life, most likely earning way above average or at least enough to live off comfortably, from just playing videogames and hanging out with a fat narcissistic manchild.
He is forgetting that it's not a guarantee that he gets money for doing this. If Grumps gets less popular or dies off, he'll actually have to go get a job. Probably at a supermarket since he seems so dense I doubt he has any qualifications for anything better. He's not particularly charismatic too and rarely seems to care about anything they do in their videos. He's always just reacting and never really leading the conversation. He never plays and I think the reason for that is that he has a trash attention span where things happen right in front of his eyes and he was so busy making trashy jokes in reaction to Arin's "comedy" that he doesn't pay attention to the videogame. He's utterly incapable of actually paying attention to the games they're playing. He's not funny either and most of his commentary is "uh" "oh" oh okay" "ohh" when it's in relation to the gameplay, often in reaction to Arin saying something. If Grumps dies, he's not going to be a showbiz star at all. He has no qualities of a star, he's not funny, he's not really charismatic, his entire appeal on the GameGrumps channel is being carried by his ability to react to Arin getting angry and Arin making stupid poop or radio voice jokes.
What he's forgetting is that, this isn't just an activity he gets to do daily and get money from out of the fucking sky. His money comes from the fans. He is a content creator on YouTube, just like lots of other people and he makes a living off of that. If people donate to you, you respect the donations and read them out. It's literally your job as a content creator to do that if you say you're going to do it.
 
Dan is off his rockers.. I think he's been in this play-games-and-eat-pancakes-or-some-shit business for so long that he's forgotten what a real job is like. It seems like a very deluded and entitled reaction to close off and be upset that he has to make donation announcements on streams and receive criticism for making decisions together with his co-creator that are very rude and show blatant disregard to the fanbase.
He is already living an easy life, most likely earning way above average or at least enough to live off comfortably, from just playing videogames and hanging out with a fat narcissistic manchild.
He is forgetting that it's not a guarantee that he gets money for doing this. If Grumps gets less popular or dies off, he'll actually have to go get a job. Probably at a supermarket since he seems so dense I doubt he has any qualifications for anything better. He's not particularly charismatic too and rarely seems to care about anything they do in their videos. He's always just reacting and never really leading the conversation. He never plays and I think the reason for that is that he has a trash attention span where things happen right in front of his eyes and he was so busy making trashy jokes in reaction to Arin's "comedy" that he doesn't pay attention to the videogame. He's utterly incapable of actually paying attention to the games they're playing. He's not funny either and most of his commentary is "uh" "oh" oh okay" "ohh" when it's in relation to the gameplay, often in reaction to Arin saying something. If Grumps dies, he's not going to be a showbiz star at all. He has no qualities of a star, he's not funny, he's not really charismatic, his entire appeal on the GameGrumps channel is being carried by his ability to react to Arin getting angry and Arin making stupid poop or radio voice jokes.
What he's forgetting is that, this isn't just an activity he gets to do daily and get money from out of the fucking sky. His money comes from the fans. He is a content creator on YouTube, just like lots of other people and he makes a living off of that. If people donate to you, you respect the donations and read them out. It's literally your job as a content creator to do that if you say you're going to do it.

Dan was working at a Gamestop before Arin hired him to be his lackey.
 
Dan was working at a Gamestop before Arin hired him to be his lackey.

I thought he was a barrista at Starbucks?

He never plays and I think the reason for that is that he has a trash attention span where things happen right in front of his eyes and he was so busy making trashy jokes in reaction to Arin's "comedy" that he doesn't pay attention to the videogame. He's utterly incapable of actually paying attention to the games they're playing.

But, that's the thing - it has nothing to do with a lack of attention span. Dan can/has played video games on the Grumps channel in the past few years - and was pretty good at it. Yeah, most were largely retro games he grew up with (Sierra games, specifically); but that doesn't take away from the fact that he's perfectly capable of gaming and making it an entertaining watch (looking back on his solo runs, Dan brought in some decent views).

Just. for whatever reason, ever since he stopped playing A Link Between Worlds (something he was clearly enjoying; but dropped because - according to Dan - the game reminded him of a bad breakup he experienced at the time) he stopped playing anything outside of vs games on the channel. And the one time he tried taking the reigns since then- when he played Leisure Suit Larry: Wet Dreams Don't Dry (another game he was clearly enjoying), that was dropped after a few episodes due to 'poor view counts'.
 
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But, that's the thing - it has nothing to do with a lack of attention span. Dan can/has played video games on the Grumps channel in the past few years - and was really pretty good at it. Yeah, most were largely retro games he grew up with (Sierra games, specifically); but that doesn't take away from the fact that he's perfectly capable of gaming and making it an entertaining watch (looking back on his solo runs, Dan brought in some decent views).

Just. for whatever reason, ever since he stopped playing A Link Between Worlds (something he was clearly enjoying; but dropped because the game reminded him of a bad breakup he experienced at the time) he stopped playing anything outside of vs games on the channel. And the one time he tried taking the reigns - by playing Leisure Suit Larry: Wet Dreams Don't Dry (another game he was clearly enjoying), that was dropped after a few episodes due to 'poor view counts'.
I guess I was wrong about the attention span part then. Maybe it's not that Dan is lazy and has a bad attention span, but that he's gotten way too comfortable just sort of sitting around in a job that doesn't satisfy him, isn't fun for him but at least offers him stability and money for doing work that isn't physical or mental labor. At most it's emotional labor, but that excuses his deluded behavior about having to read stream donations even less since just sitting around and doing his very minimal work job has a few activities he still has to do, and it reeks with entitlement when he complains about having to do even something so small. It's not an activity where he just does anything he wants and gets money for it regardless, it's still a job with very minimal actual labor but some small things he still has to do because it's people who are actually in control of how much money the Grumps get.
Other than that, I think the reason this job doesn't satisfy him may not be that he just doesn't like videogames like I previously thought. It seems to me like it's more like another symptom of the borderline abusive relationship in the show between Arin and Dan sometimes. Arin plays the boss and is a fat narcissist, and his narcissistic traits really seem to bring Dan down in certain ways.

Examples:
The recent case where Dan was talking about a story where he became homeless for a short period of time, only for Arin to interrupt him to make some really lame joke about poop or something.
The Grumps only playing what Arin wants to play and what brings in the cash, and never something Dan wants to play. I seriously think that if they just did a series where Dan played a game that he genuinely would like to play on the channel it might bring out some passion in Dan that would show in his commentary, and that could also carry over into the rest of the videos.
Arin constantly bringing Dan down when he gives suggestions during gameplay. This is kind of a small sign but I think it really shows how unhealthy the dynamic is in this "duo" in the show. Whenever they're playing something, this happens very often in Super Mario Maker, there are often these moments where they get stuck and die over and over or something. Usually there's a trick to it, and Dan figures something out and says "hey maybe we can do x and it'll do something". Arin always ALWAYS says "no man that won't work" and then repeatedly keeps dying over and over trying the same thing until he rages, calms down and gets like "okay Dan we'll try your thing what was it again".
An example of that last phenomenon can be seen in this video:

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If you scroll down there are even a bunch of comments from the fans joking about Arin always doing that to Dan. They think it's funny but I think with how often this has happened, especially in those 150+ episodes of the original Super Mario Maker they did, it's not that funny anymore and is more of a sign of how Arin is narcissistic, childish and unwilling to listen to people. There are so many things about Arin that annoy the shit out of me I'm probably capable of writing a few paragraphs about it.
 
Dan is off his rockers.. I think he's been in this play-games-and-eat-pancakes-or-some-shit business for so long that he's forgotten what a real job is like. It seems like a very deluded and entitled reaction to close off and be upset that he has to make donation announcements on streams and receive criticism for making decisions together with his co-creator that are very rude and show blatant disregard to the fanbase.
He is already living an easy life, most likely earning way above average or at least enough to live off comfortably, from just playing videogames and hanging out with a fat narcissistic manchild.
He is forgetting that it's not a guarantee that he gets money for doing this. If Grumps gets less popular or dies off, he'll actually have to go get a job. Probably at a supermarket since he seems so dense I doubt he has any qualifications for anything better. He's not particularly charismatic too and rarely seems to care about anything they do in their videos. He's always just reacting and never really leading the conversation. He never plays and I think the reason for that is that he has a trash attention span where things happen right in front of his eyes and he was so busy making trashy jokes in reaction to Arin's "comedy" that he doesn't pay attention to the videogame. He's utterly incapable of actually paying attention to the games they're playing. He's not funny either and most of his commentary is "uh" "oh" oh okay" "ohh" when it's in relation to the gameplay, often in reaction to Arin saying something. If Grumps dies, he's not going to be a showbiz star at all. He has no qualities of a star, he's not funny, he's not really charismatic, his entire appeal on the GameGrumps channel is being carried by his ability to react to Arin getting angry and Arin making stupid poop or radio voice jokes.
What he's forgetting is that, this isn't just an activity he gets to do daily and get money from out of the fucking sky. His money comes from the fans. He is a content creator on YouTube, just like lots of other people and he makes a living off of that. If people donate to you, you respect the donations and read them out. It's literally your job as a content creator to do that if you say you're going to do it.
I think Danny was a lot more likable and entertaining in his first couple years with GG because he had this sense of humble gratefulness for a bunch of internet randos enabling him to make an easy living and even pursue a YouTube music career with Ninja Sex Party, whereas most of his previous musical endeavors were either short lived or lead to nowhere (and I say this as someone who actually likes some of Danny's pre-NSP stuff). He was extremely grateful for his audience and was eager to prove himself and entertain the people who have enabled his E-fame the best he can.

Lately though, not only has he gotten entitled and lazy, he thinks he is actual hot shit instead of someone who had an incredible opportunity handed to him, and instead of being grateful to the "lovelies" without whom he'd most likely be a jobless loser or a wage slave, he's become convinced his shit is actual gold and that his fans should be grateful to him for mumbling into a mic in front of a video game. He's also seemed to develop this notion that his half-baked takes on actual happenings are worth a damn. He's not gotten as bad as Arin, but his initial humbleness has been replaced with him thinking he's some kind of Guru when it comes to the hard knocks of life.

Call me an autist, but I legit liked some of their stuff till about early 2016-ish and there's stuff like their Out of This World or Heart of Darkness episodes I can still put on and find entertaining enough for background noise. Lately though, they feel more and more like LTG and DSP, only without the Schadenfreude that comes from them being trolled.
 
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I think Danny was a lot more likable and entertaining in his first couple years with GG because he had this sense of humble gratefulness for a bunch of internet randos enabling him to make an easy living and even pursue a YouTube music career with Ninja Sex Party, whereas most of his previous musical endeavors were either short lived or lead to nowhere (and I say this as someone who actually likes some of Danny's pre-NSP stuff). He was extremely grateful for his audience and was eager to prove himself and entertain the people who have enabled his E-fame the best he can. Lately though, not only has he gotten entitled and lazy,

He thinks he is actual hot shit instead of someone who had an incredible opportunity handed to him, and instead of being grateful to the "lovelies" without whom he'd most likely be a jobless loser or a wage slave, he's become convinced his shit is actual gold and that his fans should be grateful to him for mumbling into a camera in front of a video game. He's also seemed to develop this notion that his half-baked takes on actual happenings is worth a damn. He's not gotten as bad as Arin, but his initial humbleness has been replaced with him thinking he's some kind of Guru when it comes to the hard knocks of life.

Call me an autist, but I legit liked some of their stuff till about early 2016-ish and there's stuff like their Out of This World or Heart of Darkness episodes I can still put on and find entertaining enough for background noise. Lately though, they feel more and more like LTG and DSP, only without the Schadenfreude that comes from them being trolled.


Devil's advocate: would you actually like and respect the people who religiously watch Game Grumps? The kind of memelords that endlessly repeat their catchphrases and attack people who criticize the Grumps? I wouldn't. Unlike Dan, I would at least try to pretend.
 
Devil's advocate: would you actually like and respect the people who religiously watch Game Grumps? The kind of memelords that endlessly repeat their catchphrases and attack people who criticize the Grumps? I wouldn't. Unlike Dan, I would at least try to pretend.
Yeah, that's a really good point. It really is a vicious circle of spergery: relative normie fans that aren't very vocal and just regular peeps you could hang out with get drowned out by a bunch of screeching degenerates that not only continue to obsess over Dan and Arin despite their drop in quality, but also enable it alongside with their progressively shittier attitude. The Grumps realize their most vocal fans are obsessive weirdos that fantasize about them fucking each other and would want nothing to do with them, but the more normal part of the audience that'd be more healthy to communicate with doesn't stick around as their quality worsens, since they aren't as obsessive as rabid gametards that also tend to chase them off.

I imagine it'd do a lot of good to the Grumps if they could more often communicate with more decent people that aren't just psychotic sycophants and Kathy Bates types that want to use them as surrogate family or husbandos, but those are usually too occupied with their lives to obsess over them well after they start to decline, not to mention the extra repulsive effect of the aforementioned vocal tards.
 
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Yeah, that's a really good point. It really is a vicious circle of spergery: relative normie fans that aren't very vocal and just regular peeps you could hang out with get drowned out by a bunch of screeching degenerates that not only continue to obsess with Dan and Arin despite their drop in quality, but also enable in alongside with their progressively shittier attitude. The Grumps realize their most vocal fans are obsessive weirdos that fantasize about them fucking each other and would want nothing to do with them, but the more normal part of the audience that'd be more healthy to communicate with doesn't stick around as their quality worsens, since they aren't as obsessive as rabid gametards that also tend to chase them off.

I imagine it'd do a lot of good to the Grumps if they could more often communicate with more decent people that aren't just psychotic sycophants and Kathy Bates types that want to use them as surrogate family or husbandos, but those are usually too occupied with their lives to obsess over them well after they start to decline, not to mention the extra repulsive effect of the aforementioned vocal tards.

I remember reading that at a con in the first year or so of Dan being Jon's replacement that a guy ran up to Ross at a signing (this is when they'd regularly rip on Ross as a gag) and the autist just screamed directly in Ross's face. When you're dealing with that kind of autism on the regular then I wouldn't associate with such fans. I'm sure both Arin and Danny have a lot of disgust towards their audience.
 
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