Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Dom Cruise]

Opening Day for The Last Jedi is going to be a day that lives in infamy among nerds and geeks. It's already become one of those "Where were you when this happened?" kind of things.

I fully remember not being hyped about the movie at all. I had seen The Force Awakens ... And the novelty of that movie wore off for me almost immediately. None of the trailers for TLJ sparked my interest. I didn't really care. I only went to see it because my husband wanted to see it.

Welp. TLJ made me care ... But in the opposite way that Disney had intended. I remember it being a morose movie theater experience; packed theater, but could hear pindrops the ENTIRE time. It was a dead audience for almost 3 fucking hours.

Then, the credits rolled. I turned to my husband and said (almost yelling) "WHAT IN THE HELL DID I JUST WATCH?"

In short, this was me on that night:

I had zero expectations and the movie mostly left me confused, I really didn't know what to think at first.

I don't remember anyone laughing though despite all the attempts at humor and I do remember the guy sitting next me seeming very displeased.

I'm warming up to the idea of the time travel ending as their way of "repairing" the broken franchise. For all its faults, it's their honest concession that they fucked the entire sequel trilogy so bad that they are willing to write off all the billions of dollars they spent on it in exchange for pretending that it canonically never happened and returning things to the way they were, more or less, before they started the entire sequel project. It must be a hard and bitter pill for them to swallow, and there is some schadenfreude to derive from that.

It's cheating but can you really blame them? It's the only thing that could save Star Wars at this point.

I'll never forget the moment when I watched Carrie Fisher fly through space like she was Mary Poppins.

How in the holy mother of fuck did that horseshit make it to the final cut? Why would they piss all over her memory like that?

Her power was not the Force but simply being female and we all know women are perfect goddesses who can do no wrong and only die when they choose to heroically sacrifice themselves.

Her sheer femaleness is what caused her to fly back into that ship because what, you think she's going to be killed a man? No way!

 

[Vault Boy]

Her power was not the Force but simply being female and we all know women are perfect goddesses who can do no wrong and only die when they choose to heroically sacrifice themselves.

Her sheer femaleness is what caused her to fly back into that ship because what, you think she's going to be killed a man? No way!

You joke, but I've a theory that the Carrie Poppins bit was originally a doodle made for fun, like the kind of crazy shit cartoon animators make during downtime. Kennedy somehow saw the doodle and decided that it absolutely needed to happen to make Leia "empowered", ignoring the artist insisting that it was a joke.

How it was kept after Carrie's untimely death is beyond me. Did none of them stop to think how it can be seen in poor taste?

 

[Larry Anon]

How it was kept after Carrie's untimely death is beyond me. Did none of them stop to think how it can be seen in poor taste?

Not killing Leia at that point was the dumbest fucking decision they could have possibly made after Carrie's death. It wasn't the perfect way to say goodbye to the character, but it's something the fans would have understood. Now they're going to have to do all of this digital Frankenstein shit for Movie 9.

 

[verissimus]

What will be the worst finale of 2019?

• Game of Thrones Season 8
• Star Wars Episode 9

GOT because I think it's fair to say a number of people realized the Disney trilogy was doomed since TFA and then most people abandoned ship after TLJ. It would also be fair to say that expectations are very low for the majority of people going into episode 9.

Compare that to GoT season 8, and I'd say most people going in despite season 7 (never mind 5 and 6 as well) were optimistic. Hek even after episode 3 it seemed some still thought things couldn't get any worse, but then it did, and the rest they say is history.

 

[BScCollateral]

Not killing Leia at that point was the dumbest fucking decision they could have possibly made after Carrie's death. It wasn't the perfect way to say goodbye to the character, but it's something the fans would have understood. Now they're going to have to do all of this digital Frankenstein shit for Movie 9.

I've heard it suggested that Leia wasn't killed at that point so Disney could collect the insurance for the death of a major character.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

I've heard it suggested that Leia wasn't killed at that point so Disney could collect the insurance for the death of a major character.

This seems wrong. I know there was supposed to be a policy on Fisher herself, but a policy on the character? That makes no sense.

 

[BScCollateral]

This seems wrong. I know there was supposed to be a policy on Fisher herself, but a policy on the character? That makes no sense.

I misspoke. Of course, the policy would be on the actress. If, however, Disney makes Episode 9 without the character of Leia, it's allegedly difficult to argue that Fisher's death was a major problem.

This way, they can claim Fisher's death forced expensive and difficult workarounds.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Seeing the Activision rumors dying down a bit, I think we’ll be stuck with Disney continue to foolishly license the Star Wars games to EA, until they get bought out. I think Disney doesn’t want to risk losing money by acquiring a video game company when they struggle with publishing games themselves. Also, it’s apparently cheaper to license.

 

[Secret Asshole]

GOT because I think it's fair to say a number of people realized the Disney trilogy was doomed since TFA and then most people abandoned ship after TLJ. It would also be fair to say that expectations are very low for the majority of people going into episode 9.

Compare that to GoT season 8, and I'd say most people going in despite season 7 (never mind 5 and 6 as well) were optimistic. Hek even after episode 3 it seemed some still thought things couldn't get any worse, but then it did, and the rest they say is history.

Game of Thrones by far. If you told me at the end of Season 4 it'd end like this I would not have believed you. Even as bad as 5 was, (which was when I stopped caring) I would not have imagined it being as bad as Season 8 was.

If D&D had shown up at San Diego Comic Con they would have been fucking lynched. They couldn't even get an audience that is basically sitting for a giant commercial to cheer for them.

As for Star Wars, nobody really gives a fuck about it anymore. Its basically met with apathy and shoulder shrugging. TLJ basically cratered the franchise into the dirt in one film. Nobody really cares about Starwars anymore, so I don't know if there's really any damage to actually be done.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Hey @GeneralFriendliness, is it true Disneyland isn’t in the top ten of theme parks right now?

 

[Creep3r]

Hey @GeneralFriendliness, is it true Disneyland isn’t in the top ten of theme parks right now?

Best Amusement Parks - the World - Tripadvisor Travelers' Choice Awards

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According to the official list, Universal's Island of Adventures is now top dog at #1 which is pretty notable since usually some Disney park holds the #1 spot, but Disneyland park has dropped out of the top 10 as its now currently sitting at #12 which is saying something since it lost to the Island at Pigeon Forge and SeaWorld.

 

[Antipathy]

Holy shit Star Wars has just become flat out toxic to even Disney.

 

[Basil II]

Hey @GeneralFriendliness, is it true Disneyland isn’t in the top ten of theme parks right now?

Best Amusement Parks - the World - Tripadvisor Travelers' Choice Awards

Tripadvisor - Travelers' Choice Awards. Find out what the best amusement parks in the World are as awarded by millions of real travelers.

www.tripadvisor.com

According to the official list, Universal's Island of Adventures is now top dog at #1 which is pretty notable since usually some Disney park holds the #1 spot, but Disneyland park has dropped out of the top 10 as its now currently sitting at #12 which is saying something since it lost to the Island at Pigeon Forge and SeaWorld.

DisneyLand's problem is it's just discount Magic Kingdom nowadays. It's lost the international market since there isn't really much you can find at DisneyLand that you can't find at DisneyWorld and a lot more.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

I waited years and years to see Leia use the force and low and behold.....its stupid.

 

[XYZpdq]

Best Amusement Parks - the World - Tripadvisor Travelers' Choice Awards

Tripadvisor - Travelers' Choice Awards. Find out what the best amusement parks in the World are as awarded by millions of real travelers.

www.tripadvisor.com

According to the official list, Universal's Island of Adventures is now top dog at #1 which is pretty notable since usually some Disney park holds the #1 spot, but Disneyland park has dropped out of the top 10 as its now currently sitting at #12 which is saying something since it lost to the Island at Pigeon Forge and SeaWorld.

That list is horseshit beyond all belief. By its reckoning Old Town / Fun Spot is a better theme park than Tokyo Disneyland.

 

[Übertroon]

Seeing the Activision rumors dying down a bit, I think we’ll be stuck with Disney continue to foolishly license the Star Wars games to EA, until they get bought out. I think Disney doesn’t want to risk losing money by acquiring a video game company when they struggle with publishing games themselves. Also, it’s apparently cheaper to license.

I mean it wouldn't be such a bad idea a decade ago. Back in 2009 EA was yearly releasing dozens of triple A titles in a multitude of genres.

Like I know this is when the "EA bad" meme started, but for a while they were funding a lot of new and interesting IPs, but for a while now EA has been mostly been beating dead horses and ruining old franchises. Gone are the years where EA will release Dead Space, Red Alert 3, Crysis, Dragon Age Origins, and Mercenaries 2 in the same year

 

[Godzilla@1989]

On the bright side, at least Disney is smart enough to not delay a dumpster fire for another nine months.

I mean it wouldn't be such a bad idea a decade ago. Back in 2009 EA was yearly releasing dozens of triple A titles in a multitude of genres.

Like I know this is when the "EA bad" meme started, but for a while they were funding a lot of new and interesting IPs, but for a while now EA has been mostly been beating dead horses and ruining old franchises. Gone are the years where EA will release Dead Space, Red Alert 3, Crysis, Dragon Age Origins, and Mercenaries 2 in the same year

Oh, EA will get sold soon, I predict Take-Two would acquire the non sports assets, which would complicate things for Disney.

 

[Vault Boy]

I mean it wouldn't be such a bad idea a decade ago. Back in 2009 EA was yearly releasing dozens of triple A titles in a multitude of genres.

Like I know this is when the "EA bad" meme started, but for a while they were funding a lot of new and interesting IPs, but for a while now EA has been mostly been beating dead horses and ruining old franchises. Gone are the years where EA will release Dead Space, Red Alert 3, Crysis, Dragon Age Origins, and Mercenaries 2 in the same year

I think the microtransactions of their sport games have made EA more complacent. In their mind, why put money into multiple games when you can make fewer games with live service models (regardless if they even make sense or not, such as forcing BioWare to make Anthem instead of Dragon Age 4). The suits are so obsessed with making more money in the short term that they don't stop to think about how the public will perceive them in the long term.

Sprinkle in their recent compulsion with deliberately pissing their fanbases off, and I think that explains the rut they're in now.

 

[Adamska]

The Knights of Ren costumes look like they need some color to them. The all-black coloration works for Kylo with his more simple design, the different textures of the clothing and silver helmet highlights look fine.

The Knights of Ren costumes are a lot more busy with complex belts, armor pieces and other details, but it all just blends together and looks like a garbled mess of black, grey and bits of silver to me. Some armored areas with muted colors or certain articles of clothing with some distinct color variation would go a long way.

The designs don’t really look that interesting to begin with, but the blandness of the color really stands out to me.

They're aping Darth Vader's vague samurai resemblance (as his mask was based on theirs) but can't do it right. They made them too mono-colored and too complicated, and went wholeheartedly in their bootleg.

Some suggestions that might work include:

• Also including shades of Hugo Boss and the Stahl-helm, as Vader also takes small cues from Nazi SS soldier uniforms.
• Include some color: they're fallen Jedi Knights, not Sith. At least not really.
• Simplify the design. A bit of a pseudo uniform/kimono and a death mask is all you need.

You joke, but I've a theory that the Carrie Poppins bit was originally a doodle made for fun, like the kind of crazy shit cartoon animators make during downtime. Kennedy somehow saw the doodle and decided that it absolutely needed to happen to make Leia "empowered", ignoring the artist insisting that it was a joke.

How it was kept after Carrie's untimely death is beyond me. Did none of them stop to think how it can be seen in poor taste?

Pretty sure it was more Ruin Roundhead that did this one, since he was the asshole who took a comedy plot structure and made it how TLJ worked. This is the fucker who called in Admiral Ackbar's body actor and had him do a dead meme as he silently sobbed in the suit. He is that spiteful and retarded.

Not killing Leia at that point was the dumbest fucking decision they could have possibly made after Carrie's death. It wasn't the perfect way to say goodbye to the character, but it's something the fans would have understood. Now they're going to have to do all of this digital Frankenstein shit for Movie 9.

It's even more disgusting; they're rooting through TFA deleted footage apparently (since they are forcing Rey to look like she did in TFA again) and will cobble it together with their attempts to Tarkin it up.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

I honestly feel like for all of their greed, Disney right now has incompetent management that don’t know what they’re doing (not understanding the brands they buy in a hostile manner with the exception of Marvel, all of their original properties tanking, etc).