ANTIFA / Antifascist Action / Antifaschistische Aktion - The anti-fascist gang with fascist tendencies

[Aetos]

A system that lets minority groups have an equal voice over majority populations.

So we can simply make our own defenition of "ANTIFA" which would say it's bad?

 

[SmallTalk201]

But left wing terrorism was a super big thing in the 70s and 80s but all memory holed just like how Jim Jones was a communist and preached social justice to the same levels as what we are seeing now days.

Jim Jones was a Christian preacher. In America dichotomy where that make one? He blended ideas from both sides into whatever package was most appealing. He was Christian predator and opportunist. I'm not aware of him doing any violence to any one outside his group.


I am aware of days of rage. The rule of thumb still applies. The weather underground was an example of group violence. I recall during the 1980s and 1990s right wing terrorism targeting abortion clinics being a regular thing in the news. Usually a shooter or a bomb and it was done by a solo operator. Not by a group.

If you want to know what I think of this stuff personally read lucifer principle by howard bloom.

Radical violence is nothing more then two or more groups of hairless monkeys trying to raid each other for resources to increase their ability and chance to secure mates. Think Vikings or mongols only more preachy. The moral reasons stated are a false pretense. At least Vikings and mongols were up front about being violent in the name of loot and booty

 

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Jim Jones was a Christian preacher. In America dichotomy where that make one? He blended ideas from both sides into whatever package was most appealing. He was Christian predator and opportunist. I'm not aware of him doing any violence to any one outside his group.

You have that backwards. Jim Jones was an opportunist who preyed on Christians to gain power. IIRC he didn't even believe in the Christian God (but he did believe in a higher power). And yes, he was a total communist and was big into social justice (his church was majority black), he associated with the same circles as all the New Left types in California and hung out with Democrat politicians like his biggest fanboy, Harvey Milk, who even after the articles started to hit the press talking about how godawful Peoples Temple was still defended him until he went off to Guyana.

 

[AnOminous]

FBI probing Antifa plot to buy guns from Mexican cartel, 'stage an armed rebellion at the border'

The FBI is investigating a supposed radical far-left antifa plot to “stage an armed rebellion” and “disrupt U.S. law enforcement and military security operations at the US/Mexican border.”

www.foxnews.com

the anti-fascist activists were looking into buying firearms from a “Mexico-based cartel associate known as Cobra Commander”

Clicking X hard.

 

[Fapcop]

Given that antifa, like black bloc, like troonism, is based solely on self-identification--in other words, someone is antifa is someone identifies as antifa--it would be impossible to make a complete list of antifa. sure, some can be identified, but it can't be complete.

Yup. Antifa is one of the most misunderstood groups out there. Calling it a group is even a stretch. It’s more of a method of operation, sorta like Black Blocks.

There’s no membership or dues to pay. There’s no chairman of the local Antifa.

Typically here’s how it works:

Let’s say that @LateNightMuffin is member of the local TroonsForJustice, I live nearby and head the local chapter of CampusCommies for Peace. @AnOminous used to be a member of the local Socialist Workers Party (Marxist-Leninist) but got kicked out because word got around that he’s a Hoxhaist.

We all know each other from political work and demonstrations, so when word gets around that there’ll be a Proud Boy demonstration next month, we stick our heads together and plan a counter demonstration.

We send out some press releases and put up some posters about it, all signed by Antifa, and let everyone in our local groups know that they should show up.

(And usually organizes it into sorta-peaceful demonstrators and “arrestable” demonstrators/demonstrators “looking for action”. The last group are the fuckers who will have weapons, attack police/“nazis” etc.)

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Democrat politicians like his biggest fanboy, Harvey tard cum

The word filter isn't even wrong, here.

 

[AnOminous]

@AnOminous used to be a member of the local Socialist Workers Party (Marxist-Leninist) but got kicked out because word got around that he’s a Hoxhaist.

RRRREEEREREREEEeeeeeeeeee quit doxing me!

 

[Memento Malum]

So we can simply make our own defenition of "ANTIFA" which would say it's bad?

We could just use the current definition of ANTIFA, which says that it's bad.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

It'll be amusing to watch them shit their pants when border patrol agents threaten to arrest them.

That is, if they aren't too chickenshit to actually show up and start "protesting".

There will be 3 of them that show up, but they'll do nothing but sit around and be passive aggressive. Antifa are too big of pussies to do anything like that. They won't even fight unless they outnumber their target by at least a 3-to-1 ratio or can sucker punch.

 

[Particle Bored]

Yup. Antifa is one of the most misunderstood groups out there. Calling it a group is even a stretch. It’s more of a method of operation, sorta like Black Blocks.

There’s no membership or dues to pay. There’s no chairman of the local Antifa.

Typically here’s how it works:

Let’s say that @LateNightMuffin is member of the local TroonsForJustice, I live nearby and head the local chapter of CampusCommies for Peace. @AnOminous used to be a member of the local Socialist Workers Party (Marxist-Leninist) but got kicked out because word got around that he’s a Hoxhaist.

We all know each other from political work and demonstrations, so when word gets around that there’ll be a Proud Boy demonstration next month, we stick our heads together and plan a counter demonstration.

We send out some press releases and put up some posters about it, all signed by Antifa, and let everyone in our local groups know that they should show up.

(And usually organizes it into sorta-peaceful demonstrators and “arrestable” demonstrators/demonstrators “looking for action”. The last group are the fuckers who will have weapons, attack police/“nazis” etc.)

This is a big factor, but there are groups that have more organization (and varying degrees of plausible deniability) like BAMN and Rose City Antifa that actively encourage and support these activities.

 

[Dracula's Spirit Animal]

"what is the maximal way to convey to everyone I interact with on the internet that I'm a weepy misanthropic ball of internalized rejection from all peers and potential romantic partners, so much so that not even little kids are untouched by my bitter violent hatred and dysfunctional sexuality"

Like how pathetic does someone have to be to not even be able to become a legitimized racist in this country and just cheer them from the sidelines on forums, you basically just have to show that you aren't constantly urinating on yourself sociopath checklist style to become border patrol.

I fucked off to Europe for a couple of weeks, so this is late.

Look, friend, you should look at the addressbar. This isn't Reddit. Emotional masturbation doesn't really work here. You are either some half-witted cat lady with a useless degree, or some fat guy with tits who would really be happier as an incel. Just because you hate yourself doesn't mean random strangers take your gay assed borderline shit even remotely seriously.

 

[Fapcop]

This is a big factor, but there are groups that have more organization (and varying degrees of plausible deniability) like BAMN and Rose City Antifa that actively encourage and support these activities.

Oh btw: One thing that has worked very well in other places against far left terrorists like Antifa, are anti-masking laws.

Laws that make it illegal and punishable by (for example) 6 months in jail to cover your face at a public demonstration.

Basically: Let ‘em demonstrate, but the minute they put on their balaclava’s, you move in to arrest them.

I think similar laws have been passed in the US in some places, but have been challenged as unconstitutional.

 

[Large]

Oh btw: One thing that has worked very well in other places against far left terrorists like Antifa, are anti-masking laws.

Laws that make it illegal and punishable by (for example) 6 months in jail to cover your face at a public demonstration.

Basically: Let ‘em demonstrate, but the minute they put on their balaclava’s, you move in to arrest them.

I think similar laws have been passed in the US in some places, but have been challenged as unconstitutional.

These are mostly old laws passed to fight the KKK, funnily enough. And they are still in effect in some places, like Georgia.

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

Yup. Antifa is one of the most misunderstood groups out there. Calling it a group is even a stretch. It’s more of a method of operation, sorta like Black Blocks.

There’s no membership or dues to pay. There’s no chairman of the local Antifa.

Typically here’s how it works:

Let’s say that @LateNightMuffin is member of the local TroonsForJustice, I live nearby and head the local chapter of CampusCommies for Peace. @AnOminous used to be a member of the local Socialist Workers Party (Marxist-Leninist) but got kicked out because word got around that he’s a Hoxhaist.

We all know each other from political work and demonstrations, so when word gets around that there’ll be a Proud Boy demonstration next month, we stick our heads together and plan a counter demonstration.

We send out some press releases and put up some posters about it, all signed by Antifa, and let everyone in our local groups know that they should show up.

(And usually organizes it into sorta-peaceful demonstrators and “arrestable” demonstrators/demonstrators “looking for action”. The last group are the fuckers who will have weapons, attack police/“nazis” etc.)

Under your definition there is no such thing as organized terrorism. What, do you think ISIS passes out membership cards and keeps a roster?

Will you also claim there is no such thing as blm? It's just a bunch of random people with the same slogan...

 

[Vault Boy]

Oh btw: One thing that has worked very well in other places against far left terrorists like Antifa, are anti-masking laws.

Laws that make it illegal and punishable by (for example) 6 months in jail to cover your face at a public demonstration.

Basically: Let ‘em demonstrate, but the minute they put on their balaclava’s, you move in to arrest them.

I think similar laws have been passed in the US in some places, but have been challenged as unconstitutional.

Enforce some anti-mask laws, and barely any of them will bother to show up or riot. For all their bravado, they're scared shitless of getting identified. Tear the veil of anonymity away, and they'll be too meek to cause trouble out of fear of getting fired from their jobs (if they even have any) and disappointing their parents.

 

[Oh Long Johnson]

Enforce some anti-mask laws, and barely any of them will bother to show up or riot. For all their bravado, they're scared shitless of getting identified. Tear the veil of anonymity away, and they'll be too meek to cause trouble out of fear of getting fired from their jobs (if they even have any) and disappointing their parents.

Antifa are arch faggots, but you don't see any problem passing laws requiring that in order to protest the government, one must open oneself to being identified as a protestor to the government?

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

Antifa are arch faggots, but you don't see any problem passing laws requiring that in order to protest the government, one must open oneself to being identified as a protestor to the government?

I do get what you're saying, but I think most anti-masking laws act as upgrades to felonies committed while masked, rather than a primary offense.

There's also the argument that "If the government is willing to illegally take revenge on protestors, why would they respect people's right to hide their identity?"

Finally, there is the matter of context and intent. A bunch of dudes in full KKK regalia descending on a black church is obviously threatening. A bunch of dudes carrying batons in face masks are obviously threatening. Protesting and assaulting people are two different things. A bunch of dudes in guy fawkes masks just standing somewhere aren't threatening. If we have an outbreak of guy fawkes impersonators assaulting people, that could change.

 

[AnOminous]

Oh btw: One thing that has worked very well in other places against far left terrorists like Antifa, are anti-masking laws.

Laws that make it illegal and punishable by (for example) 6 months in jail to cover your face at a public demonstration.

Basically: Let ‘em demonstrate, but the minute they put on their balaclava’s, you move in to arrest them.

I think similar laws have been passed in the US in some places, but have been challenged as unconstitutional.

Such laws are often unconstitutional and are drafted overbroadly. Just wearing a mask is a form of expression. Laws that have withstood scrutiny generally involve wearing a mask in the commission of a crime. Good thing antifa specifically wears masks to assist in committing crimes.

These are mostly old laws passed to fight the KKK, funnily enough. And they are still in effect in some places, like Georgia.

Or Alabama.

It sure calmed the little bitches down.

Also, almost as important, letting these bitches know who's in charge from the very beginning of the encounter greatly minimizes the chance of them getting out of hand.

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

Such laws are often unconstitutional and are drafted overbroadly. Just wearing a mask is a form of expression. Laws that have withstood scrutiny generally involve wearing a mask in the commission of a crime. Good thing antifa specifically wears masks to assist in committing crimes.



Or Alabama.

It sure calmed the little bitches down.

Also, almost as important, letting these bitches know who's in charge from the very beginning of the encounter greatly minimizes the chance of them getting out of hand.

It should be noted that sci-fi/fantasy conventions rarely (if ever) run into issues with the mask laws. Because (a) most of them, despite being nerds, will happily remove the mask/helmet if asked politely, and (b) despite being nerds, aren't out to intimidate or threaten people.

Shit, DragonCon's coming up in Atlanta; all the times I've been there I've never seen anyone catch heat for wearing a mask or helmet.

Also, as @AnOminous points out, antifa has a easier time when the po-po isn't being restrained by fellow travelers in the local government. When the locals aren't interested in catering to their tantrums things get mighty peaceful.

 

[AnOminous]

It should be noted that sci-fi/fantasy conventions rarely (if ever) run into issues with the mask laws. Because (a) most of them, despite being nerds, will happily remove the mask/helmet if asked politely, and (b) despite being nerds, aren't out to intimidate or threaten people.

It's an exception in the Georgia law.

(b) This Code section shall not apply to:

(1) A person wearing a traditional holiday costume on the occasion of the holiday;

(2) A person lawfully engaged in trade and employment or in a sporting activity where a mask is worn for the purpose of ensuring the physical safety of the wearer, or because of the nature of the occupation, trade, or profession, or sporting activity;

(3) A person using a mask in a theatrical production including use in Mardi gras celebrations and masquerade balls; or

(4) A person wearing a gas mask prescribed in emergency management drills and exercises or emergencies.

It's not technically a "theatrical production" but it's a social gathering where they're expected. I've never heard of a problem about masks at some fandom con except where people were getting out of hand.