Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[Allanon]

For Vic, according to him in his deposition, he hardly knows what he's supposed to do in order to make things right-- his former friends are shittalking him and stonewalling any attempt for him to even figure out what he could have done wrong (because he didn't do anything wrong), damaged fujos and other adult girls with learned autism who couldn't be bothered to say anything when he hugged them for a photo are speaking out just because they want to be known and cause damage, and even crazier cat ladies (along with his former friend's fiancé boy toy beard ...breadwinner?) are trying to run his income to zero by tortiously interfering with his contracts and business prospects.

But he had to endure a man with 45% lung function interrogate him as to whether he's called anyone a con slut, after having to admit that he hired a prostitute, after having to admit that he failed his fiancée, after having to admit that he's been sleeping around for years. He had to face the fact that he didn't know the people who he called friends, who he palled around with for two decades, who he worked with in all kinds of circumstances. He presently has to deal with some failure of a lawyer and a man turning a character he was honored to voice into a slur as he continues to throw his bar license clout around, and other lawyers of similar levels of failure similarly trying to gain clout. He has to deal with Mr. 45% Lungman try to embarrass him on a national scale by framing his being defamed as a #metoo case-- doubtless by the order of his former friends, who, even now, are trying to ruin his reputation and his life.

And he still doesn't know why.

Dumb lawsuit wishlists aside, I think ISWV is essentially of the very reasonable understanding that the best chance Vic has at sufficiently restoring his reputation and his job prospects inherently involves the stark humiliation of his defendants. There's this trope in this forum that Vic's isn't vindictive enough to completely wreck his former friends in court, that he's too Christian for it, that he's too "New Testament"y.

I wager that all of that is absolutely irrelevant to what Vic will find that he needs to do.

Regardless of how much Vic wants to hold back, there is no verdict, nor is there any settlement, that will accomplish what he wants that will not absolutely ruin his defendants. The support Rial and company have will dry up very quickly between the force of the verdict and the force of the publicized evidence, even among their woke allies, who will more than likely make like vultures and desert them when they realize they don't have an audience anymore because everything's been said and done for most people. If they have to get to judgement, they'll have at bare minimum a million in attorney lien as well as what they owe to their own attorneys. Their job opportunities will dry up because they will have demonstrated themselves an absolute liability to any workplace, and their SEOs will probably be accordingly screwed, so who knows if they won't be considered radioactive outside the VA industry.

There are other dubbing firms with other well-known VAs. Funimation not only has competition, but can be replaced altogether, and the loss of trust should they have to pay out for Vic (and potentially also on behalf of Rial and company) will wreck public trust in them. Perhaps instantly, perhaps merely rapidly, perhaps only eventually, but the weight of their failure will follow them and sap away any good will in their direction until there's nothing left and they become white noise.

Those aren't necessarily things that Vic will want to accomplish, but Vic wants his reputation restored, Vic wants his job security back, and he wants this defamatory nonsense to end-- and that can't happen via verdict or settlement without his defendants facing the music and accepting that they'll be the ones passing out of the industry.

I agree that any favorable result for Vic will humiliate and/or ruin his opponent, because they've backed themselves into a corner where there can be no other result, but it's important to note that's a side effect. Vic's goal isn't to humiliate. That's important when it comes to settlement talk or the direction he'll push lawsuits. If given a choice to prioritize his reputation/career or punishment/humiliation of his opponents, he will choose the former. Which is ultimately for the best, because if he accomplishes the former he also accomplishes the latter, but not vice-versa.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Is it bad that I want Nick to troll him and piss him off so bad that Lemuah hyperventilates himself to death?

If he can survive getting the short stick in a game where he shouldn't have even been symptomatic, I think all hyperventilation is going to do is make him even more exceptional.

 

[Bender]

I made it to the end of this thread! This shit might need its own wiki in order to better format info, because even though this is the lull season the lulz aren't stopping, and this thread's quite hard to follow when looking for new info.

 

[Genkoda]

digging in always works...

mansteining around some fags...

off topic, but I love the fuck out of this band.

 

[Dopey Cunt]

If he can survive getting the short stick in a game where he shouldn't have even been symptomatic, I think all hyperventilation is going to do is make him even more exceptional.

Either way it's a win for me. It'll be hilarious regardless.

I made it to the end of this thread! This shit might need its own wiki in order to better format info, because even though this is the lull season the lulz aren't stopping, and this thread's quite hard to follow when looking for new info.

We're having a fire sale on retard milk. Come and get it, while the deals are hot.

 

[Botchy Galoop]

I think a lot of Vic fans have some unrealistic idea's when it comes to what would make Vic whole ( or as whole as possible) if he wins his lawsuit. Were I Ty and Vic, my goal would be to recover enough monetary compensation that Vic can live comfortably and never have to set foot in a convention or recording studio again. I think Vic's career in VA is over.
It was one thing having catlady rumours following him around these past years, it is another thing to have your co-workers and your employer bury you too. Even if Vic is completely exonerated, what company will want to deal with the B.S. that will inevitably come along with hiring Vic? Not only will the boycotts,the blogs, the evil whispers and attempts at cancelling anything to do with Vic continue, but companies will be wary of having to deal with possible sexual harassment suits brought by their own employee's against Vic.
It sucks and is not fair but IMHO Vic's reputation (and hence his employability) is permanently ruined. I would hope that a jury would see it the same way and award Vic a large monetary judgement, and as far as a settlement goes, the defendants better bring all the shekels because the time for "we're sorry" is over.

 

[3 Cucks None The Richer]

I remember seeing this pissant around before and thought he was pretty exceptional but this is some Galaxy brain levels of exceptional from this sped.

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"nIcK iS sCaReD bEcUz I dEbAtE 2 gEwD!"

Yeah okay, kid....

Don't forget he has the nickname 'Crybaby Kelly' for a reason- last time he 'debated' someone, he got stomped so hard that he actually started fucking crying... I AM NOT KIDDING.

I'll look for the video, it's fucking amazing.

 

[P5Fever]

I think a lot of Vic fans have some unrealistic idea's when it comes to what would make Vic whole ( or as whole as possible) if he wins his lawsuit. Were I Ty and Vic, my goal would be to recover enough monetary compensation that Vic can live comfortably and never have to set foot in a convention or recording studio again. I think Vic's career in VA is over.
It was one thing having catlady rumours following him around these past years, it is another thing to have your co-workers and your employer bury you too. Even if Vic is completely exonerated, what company will want to deal with the B.S. that will inevitably come along with hiring Vic? Not only will the boycotts,the blogs, the evil whispers and attempts at cancelling anything to do with Vic continue, but companies will be wary of having to deal with possible sexual harassment suits brought by their own employee's against Vic.
It sucks and is not fair but IMHO Vic's reputation (and hence his employability) is permanently ruined. I would hope that a jury would see it the same way and award Vic a large monetary judgement, and as far as a settlement goes, the defendants better bring all the shekels because the time for "we're sorry" is over.

I’m afraid I have to disagree.

My friend in high school had a father who was accused of far worse by his own mother. She even turned him against his father for a brief time. However the charges against him were dropped due to no evidence being found to indict him on. After that he sued his ex-wife, and he won. He was able to obtain his reputation back, managed to win his son back who realized his mother had deceived him for years, and managed to obtain a much better job and has moved on with his life, remarried, and is doing better than ever.

Vic isn’t just a voice actor, he is also a live action actor, a composer, a singer/musician. He has recorded music. Wrote jingles for radio commercials. On top of his 20 + years of acting.

The only thing he lost was Funimation and Rooster Teeth.

He still does voice work as Rohan for JoJo if memory serves. There is nothing stopping from him working for Viz, Sentai, or moving to Canada and dubbing with the Canadian actors. Or he could be like Laura Bailey and move on to video games. Or he could do Western cartoons. He could do broadway since he can sing and act. He could keep writing music for the radio.

There are a lot of things Vic could do, because he has the talent and the charisma to do it.

Vic isn’t going into this lawsuit for monetary gain. He just wants to salvage his reputation. So what if some idiots are still gonna say things about him even if he wins, that’s been happening to him for like 10 years now, if anything that’s pretty much back to what he’s used to. What he wants is to repair the damage and get some semblance of his life back. Sure things will never really be the same but Vic can manage just fine and still find work. He’s a pretty talented guy.

The most important thing these snakes wanted to take from him was not his job, but his support. They wanted to destroy the love and support he had from fans. To get them to hate him, disavow him, turn their backs on him, cancel him forever from his fandom.

And in that goal they have failed spectacularly.

As long as Vic has his fans he’ll be fine.

 

[Devilish Bodhisattva]

Don't forget her has the nickname 'Crybaby Kelly' for a reason- last time he 'debated' someone, he got stomped so hard that he actually started fucking crying... I AM NOT KIDDING.

I'll look for the video, it's fucking amazing.

If you manage to find it I'd love to see that shit.

 

[GeneralMint]

Don't forget he has the nickname 'Crybaby Kelly' for a reason- last time he 'debated' someone, he got stomped so hard that he actually started fucking crying... I AM NOT KIDDING.

I'll look for the video, it's fucking amazing.

Some folks are so desperate for attention theyre willing to settle for ridicule.

 

[Genkoda]

I’m afraid I have to disagree.

My friend in high school had a father who was accused of far worse by his own mother. She even turned him against his father for a brief time. However the charges against him were dropped due to no evidence being found to indict him on. After that he sued his ex-wife, and he won. He was able to obtain his reputation back, managed to win his son back who realized his mother had deceived him for years, and managed to obtain a much better job and has moved on with his life, remarried, and is doing better than ever.

Vic isn’t just a voice actor, he is also a live action actor, a composer, a singer/musician. He has recorded music. Wrote jingles for radio commercials. On top of his 20 + years of acting.

The only thing he lost was Funimation and Rooster Teeth.

He still does voice work as Rohan for JoJo if memory serves. There is nothing stopping from him working for Viz, Sentai, or moving to Canada and dubbing with the Canadian actors. Or he could be like Laura Bailey and move on to video games. Or he could do Western cartoons. He could do broadway since he can sing and act. He could keep writing music for the radio.

There are a lot of things Vic could do, because he has the talent and the charisma to do it.

Vic isn’t going into this lawsuit for monetary gain. He just wants to salvage his reputation. So what if some idiots are still gonna say things about him even if he wins, that’s been happening to him for like 10 years now, if anything that’s pretty much back to what he’s used to. What he wants is to repair the damage and get some semblance of his life back. Sure things will never really be the same but Vic can manage just fine and still find work. He’s a pretty talented guy.

The most important thing these snakes wanted to take from him was not his job, but his support. They wanted to destroy the love and support he had from fans. To get them to hate him, disavow him, turn their backs on him, cancel him forever from his fandom.

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As long as Vic has his fans he’ll be fine.

Agreed. Even if he does not get his career back, but a large enough compensation for life, he will always have his fans. He can still do livestreams, he can still do unofficial meetups, and other things like it. They did not just want his job, but his fans to go away too. As long as he still has his fans, he will end up making it through all this.

 

[EriMin]

Welcome Erica, I just paid $20 to make Nick Rekieta choke live on-air trying to contain his laughter at Al-Kawaiida to advertise your arrival.

I realise I'm REALLY late at replying to this but I went back and watched that clip and I almost died laughing. Thank you very much for that @JosephTX !

 

[AnOminous]

Vic isn’t going into this lawsuit for monetary gain. He just wants to salvage his reputation. So what if some idiots are still gonna say things about him even if he wins, that’s been happening to him for like 10 years now, if anything that’s pretty much back to what he’s used to.

Unfortunately, much like the Gibsons in the Oberlin case, only a truly devastating obliteration of the defendants will serve that purpose. Only that will make society's disapproval of this kind of lynch mob manifest to anyone sane, because the crazies will smear him until the day he dies (or preferably they do) regardless of how thoroughly their lies are proven false.

 

[Bessie]

Welcome Erica, I just paid $20 to make Nick Rekieta choke live on-air trying to contain his laughter at Al-Kawaiida to advertise your arrival.

I realise I'm REALLY late at replying to this but I went back and watched that clip and I almost died laughing. Thank you very much for that @JosephTX !

What's the approximate timestamp on that? I'd like to watch that part again.

 

[The Singer Of Songs]

What's the approximate timestamp on that? I'd like to watch that part again.

Seconded. I wanna know. XD

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Probably because Todd dumped every text correspondence he had with Pridemore probably the day of the allegations and couldn't remove it fast enough for everyone to read it and realize that Pridemore is actually a mentally unstable twit who had mutually black-out drunk sex with Todd.

Vic wasn't as cynical to do the same with the correspondences with his so-called friends.

Idk I think its odd he fucks convention fans. Unless I missed something and she isn't. Shes a model right?

I don't personally hate the guy btw.

Even if Vic wins his career wont be the same will it?

 

[Nontransferable]

I realise I'm REALLY late at replying to this but I went back and watched that clip and I almost died laughing. Thank you very much for that @JosephTX !

Time stamped at 1:18:12

 

[Immaculate Ape]

Idk I think its odd he fucks convention fans. Unless I missed something and she isn't. Shes a model right?

I don't personally hate the guy btw.

Even if Vic wins his career wont be the same will it?

His career will never be what it was, but where he goes will depend on the outcome of the case. He could very well end better off than he was, but everything depends.

 

[Allanon]

I think a lot of Vic fans have some unrealistic idea's when it comes to what would make Vic whole ( or as whole as possible) if he wins his lawsuit. Were I Ty and Vic, my goal would be to recover enough monetary compensation that Vic can live comfortably and never have to set foot in a convention or recording studio again. I think Vic's career in VA is over.
It was one thing having catlady rumours following him around these past years, it is another thing to have your co-workers and your employer bury you too. Even if Vic is completely exonerated, what company will want to deal with the B.S. that will inevitably come along with hiring Vic? Not only will the boycotts,the blogs, the evil whispers and attempts at cancelling anything to do with Vic continue, but companies will be wary of having to deal with possible sexual harassment suits brought by their own employee's against Vic.
It sucks and is not fair but IMHO Vic's reputation (and hence his employability) is permanently ruined. I would hope that a jury would see it the same way and award Vic a large monetary judgement, and as far as a settlement goes, the defendants better bring all the shekels because the time for "we're sorry" is over.

I have to disagree on basically every point. As I've said before, it's much too early to decide what the long term effects of this lawsuit will be. Also, you don't seem to get that these crazy fujoshi have ALWAYS been like this (since 2010, anyway). Their behavior hasn't changed, it's just that people are paying attention to them because Funimation and the VAs have given credibility to them. Jennifer Lynn didn't likely succeed in getting Liberty City Con to drop Vic, as other people tried and got denied. Almost certainly, that was Funimation dabbling to get him kicked. He's had these rumors following him, and they haven't hurt him. Destroy the defendants so that their word means nothing/prove they're wrong, and Vic is perfectly employable again.

I've said that now multiple times, but every time things slow down, people get a warped perception of how long this lawsuit has gone on and how far into it we are. One of the primary goals behind Vic suing these people is to get his VA career back. The lawsuit isn't even past the TCPA stage. Not only are we not far enough along to make such declarations, but we have to assume Vic will make decisions in settlements and in pursuing things in the lawsuit/post-lawsuit that will get him his career back, not a large sum of money.

I really think people conflate 'he probably won't get his exact roles back' with 'he won't get any more roles' but that's probably because the most vocal people on the matter are kickvics pushing 'stillfired' and people who are dreaming too big about Vic taking over the dubbing scene.

 

[Immaculate Ape]

I have to disagree on basically every point. As I've said before, it's much too early to decide what the long term effects of this lawsuit will be. Also, you don't seem to get that these crazy fujoshi have ALWAYS been like this (since 2010, anyway). Their behavior hasn't changed, it's just that people are paying attention to them because Funimation and the VAs have given credibility to them. Jennifer Lynn didn't likely succeed in getting Liberty City Con to drop Vic, as other people tried and got denied. Almost certainly, that was Funimation dabbling to get him kicked. He's had these rumors following him, and they haven't hurt him. Destroy the defendants so that their word means nothing/prove they're wrong, and Vic is perfectly employable again.

I've said that now multiple times, but every time things slow down, people get a warped perception of how long this lawsuit has gone on and how far into it we are. One of the primary goals behind Vic suing these people is to get his VA career back. The lawsuit isn't even past the TCPA stage. Not only are we not far enough along to make such declarations, but we have to assume Vic will make decisions in settlements and in pursuing things in the lawsuit/post-lawsuit that will get him his career back, not a large sum of money.

I really think people conflate 'he probably won't get his exact roles back' with 'he won't get any more roles' but that's probably because the most vocal people on the matter are kickvics pushing 'stillfired' and people who are dreaming too big about Vic taking over the dubbing scene.

Regardless of outcome, there will still be companies that take him on as a VA. That's not really in question, because there are plenty more countries on the planet than just the USA.

What will change is the way Vic approaches inter-personal relationships, and business relationships.

Imagine spending 20 years of your life doing something that seems perfectly acceptable, and everyone encourages you and acts like everything is perfectly normal.

Then one day, you wake up and everything you did was suddenly wrong. Without any lead-up, without any reason, everything that you knew was just terribly wrong and everyone who loved and supported you were the ones leading the charge against you.

That fundamentally changes a person.