Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Godzilla@1989]

You think that hating women and liking something they did is mutually exclusive? Let me take you by the hand and guide you into the magical realms of feminist circle logic!

*puts on pink-pussy-hat*

See, you enjoy Braveheart and Saving Private Ryan, cause they are male power fantasies and self-insert flicks, one where the main character is super strong and a great leater, that kills a bunch of people and the other where he's so super special that the US Army sends guys in the middle of a war just to save him. In both cases it's mindless male militarism and the male perspective is validated by exclusively catering to their tastes and experiences.
That means, you only approve of these women cause they willingly submit to the male reaffirmation of power and superiority.

And now for the coup the grace in femtard logic:

This means you enjoy the movies the same way a patriarch in the 50s would enjoy a sandwich his slave-wife made in the kitchen for him. You do not support women by liking these movies, you actually support the Status Quo in which a women's merit is entirely dependent on their role as a willing slave to the patriarchical system.

This is what radfemtards on universities actually believe.

*takes off pink-pussy-hat and throws it in the trash compactor*

The problem isn't whether you support women as a man or not. It's not and never was about radfems looking at a situation and deriving a perspective from the facts. They do it the other way around, they have their bias that everything is "patriarchy this" and "male dominated space that". They take the conclusion that they want to draw and then make the facts fit that goal, either by bending the facts, by selectively choosing them (and ignoring everything that doesn't fit) or by simply making "facts" up.

This also explains why oldschool heroines such as Ripley, Sarah Connor or even Leia don't phase them. They twist and turn until the prior existence of strong independent females in movies reaffirms their modern views that women up till now have been treated akin to blackface minstrel acts (a similar issue that is handled the same way, I might add, only swap "sexism" with "racism"). Or why women who managed to make their way into the upper management and got past the supposed "glass-ceiling" by hard work are disregarded. If anything, they are traitors to their sex, since they make themselves slaves to the male power system. At least that's what chubby, ugly, abrasive, disgusting and thoroughly unlikeable radfemtards shout whenever one brings it up. The idea that a woman might have to pour in hard work into her career in order to rise to a high position is absolutely repulsive to these nitwits.

The irony here is that women like Braveheart and Saving Private Ryan more than the Disney Star Wars movies despite being more male-centric in its storylines.

 

[Adamska]

I would have loved to see Obi-Wan bored out of his mind, living by himself in the desert with nothing to do.
Just mіlking banthas and swearing at sand people.

I could see doing a miniseries with Obi-Wan on Tattoine. It'd be him trying to piece together a life, try and struggle to watch over Luke and failing to befriend the Owens due to bad blood. And for action dealing with Huttese mobsters or Sand People raids.

All while watching over and hanging out with Luke, relaxing a bit despite his own failures.

It's gonna be a character assassination though, because Disney is going to underfund it and get a shit actor and an arrogant dick of a director though.

 

[Übertroon]

I could see doing a miniseries with Obi-Wan on Tattoine. It'd be him trying to piece together a life, try and struggle to watch over Luke and failing to befriend the Owens due to bad blood. And for action dealing with Huttese mobsters or Sand People raids.

All while watching over and hanging out with Luke, relaxing a bit despite his own failures.

It's gonna be a character assassination though, because Disney is going to underfund it and get a shit actor and an arrogant dick of a director though.

If there was actually some planning involved they could have told Star Wars Rebels to cool its jets with tying up the Maul storyline in Clone Wars, and instead have it dealt with in Kenobi's own storyline instead of making it a b plot in the Burger King Kid's club adventures with the Rebel Alliance.
Since Obi Wan and Maul are both then connected with the Mandalorians they could then also tie in the storyline with the Mandalorian tv series and the Han Solo movie.

 

[$MY_COCK]

I could see doing a miniseries with Obi-Wan on Tattoine. It'd be him trying to piece together a life, try and struggle to watch over Luke and failing to befriend the Owens due to bad blood. And for action dealing with Huttese mobsters or Sand People raids.

All while watching over and hanging out with Luke, relaxing a bit despite his own failures.

It's gonna be a character assassination though, because Disney is going to underfund it and get a shit actor and an arrogant dick of a director though.

Disney is really obsessed with turning all the old Star Wars characters into shit before killing them off.
Character assassination followed by actual assassination.

 

[Flexo]

I could see doing a miniseries with Obi-Wan on Tattoine. It'd be him trying to piece together a life, try and struggle to watch over Luke and failing to befriend the Owens due to bad blood. And for action dealing with Huttese mobsters or Sand People raids.

All while watching over and hanging out with Luke, relaxing a bit despite his own failures.

It's gonna be a character assassination though, because Disney is going to underfund it and get a shit actor and an arrogant dick of a director though.

If there was actually some planning involved they could have told Star Wars Rebels to cool its jets with tying up the Maul storyline in Clone Wars, and instead have it dealt with in Kenobi's own storyline instead of making it a b plot in the Burger King Kid's club adventures with the Rebel Alliance.
Since Obi Wan and Maul are both then connected with the Mandalorians they could then also tie in the storyline with the Mandalorian tv series and the Han Solo movie.

Or just make it a SW criminal underground story.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/star-w...y-about-last-jedi.32492/page-158#post-3561375

Also I called it.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/star-w...y-about-last-jedi.32492/page-129#post-3510030

 

[BR55]

I love how the Kennedy defenders think we hate women running studios and production companies. I mean, a woman green lit my two favorite movies, Braveheart and Saving Private Ryan.

Honestly I don't think that they, some of them anyway, truly believe that we hate wahmen. I say "some" because I'm sure some of these Hollywood fucks actually think that.
It's just a cynical realization that in our current culture "Toxic white nerds hate wahmen and POC's" is pretty much guaranteed to create a, depressingly, large amount of fangirls/male feminists who will defend mediocre products because vagina and melanin.
I mean if you were in possession of a thought terminating cliche that was proven to shut down criticism of your work and instantly create free positive press why wouldn't you use that liberally?
It's just the way things are now and only a new movie crash like at the end of the New Hollywood era will change things.

 

[Adamska]

It's just a cynical realization that in our current culture "Toxic white nerds hate wahmen and POC's" is pretty much guaranteed to create a, depressingly, large amount of fangirls/male feminists who will defend mediocre products because vagina and melanin.

Smart enough to make retards like this free Corp-Sec; too retarded to see that it kills their Chinese sales and said market is one of the worst ones profit wise due to their habit of pirating or not buying it.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Just mіlking banthas and swearing at sand people.

Like this:

I could see doing a miniseries with Obi-Wan on Tattoine. It'd be him trying to piece together a life, try and struggle to watch over Luke and failing to befriend the Owens due to bad blood. And for action dealing with Huttese mobsters or Sand People raids.

All while watching over and hanging out with Luke, relaxing a bit despite his own failures.

It's gonna be a character assassination though, because Disney is going to underfund it and get a shit actor and an arrogant dick of a director though.

He'll endlessly whip out his lightsabre, no matter how little sense it makes. The problem: Obi-Wan is an interesting character, but between the PT and the OT, there can't be much going on in his life or it defeats the purpose of his stay on Tatooine.

If there was actually some planning involved they could have told Star Wars Rebels to cool its jets with tying up the Maul storyline in Clone Wars, and instead have it dealt with in Kenobi's own storyline instead of making it a b plot in the Burger King Kid's club adventures with the Rebel Alliance.
Since Obi Wan and Maul are both then connected with the Mandalorians they could then also tie in the storyline with the Mandalorian tv series and the Han Solo movie.

This would be neat, but it would demand some creativity, ahrd work and good writing and Disney doesn't do that any more.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Hey @GeneralFriendliness, Clownfish just released a new video that is a leak of Episode 9’s plot. If this is true, then the film is going to suck hard.

 

[Comicsgeist]

You think that hating women and liking something they did is mutually exclusive? Let me take you by the hand and guide you into the magical realms of feminist circle logic!

*puts on pink-pussy-hat*

See, you enjoy Braveheart and Saving Private Ryan, cause they are male power fantasies and self-insert flicks, one where the main character is super strong and a great leater, that kills a bunch of people and the other where he's so super special that the US Army sends guys in the middle of a war just to save him. In both cases it's mindless male militarism and the male perspective is validated by exclusively catering to their tastes and experiences.
That means, you only approve of these women cause they willingly submit to the male reaffirmation of power and superiority.

And now for the coup the grace in femtard logic:

This means you enjoy the movies the same way a patriarch in the 50s would enjoy a sandwich his slave-wife made in the kitchen for him. You do not support women by liking these movies, you actually support the Status Quo in which a women's merit is entirely dependent on their role as a willing slave to the patriarchical system.

This is what radfemtards on universities actually believe.

*takes off pink-pussy-hat and throws it in the trash compactor*

The problem isn't whether you support women as a man or not. It's not and never was about radfems looking at a situation and deriving a perspective from the facts. They do it the other way around, they have their bias that everything is "patriarchy this" and "male dominated space that". They take the conclusion that they want to draw and then make the facts fit that goal, either by bending the facts, by selectively choosing them (and ignoring everything that doesn't fit) or by simply making "facts" up.

This also explains why oldschool heroines such as Ripley, Sarah Connor or even Leia don't phase them. They twist and turn until the prior existence of strong independent females in movies reaffirms their modern views that women up till now have been treated akin to blackface minstrel acts (a similar issue that is handled the same way, I might add, only swap "sexism" with "racism"). Or why women who managed to make their way into the upper management and got past the supposed "glass-ceiling" by hard work are disregarded. If anything, they are traitors to their sex, since they make themselves slaves to the male power system. At least that's what chubby, ugly, abrasive, disgusting and thoroughly unlikeable radfemtards shout whenever one brings it up. The idea that a woman might have to pour in hard work into her career in order to rise to a high position is absolutely repulsive to these nitwits.

It's a perspective, formed through an ideological lens, but there is a bit of truth to it. Those female executives were pandering to a male demographic, but so what?

The nub of the issue for me is that, once upon a time, there were 'boy's properties' and 'girls properties.
There was a time that it was permissible to market a product at a specific demographic, you created He-Man because you wanted 6-12yr old boys to buy toys and that was the demographic you marketed and pandered to. The same with girls. It was OK to craft a product like My Little Pony to appeal to 6-12yr old girls and not have to consider any requirement for it to appeal to any other demographic. And that was fine, because you know what, boys and girls often like different things.
At some point however in the past decade or two, it became verboten to directly market a product exclusively at boys or men. Apparently everybody with the exception of boys 'needed more representation' and positive role models (because teen boys absolutely don't need positive role models or heroes to look up to).
Wore still, these people began co-opting and taking away roll models that boys already had. Properties like Ghostbusters or Starwars were seen as somehow owed as reparations to under-represented groups.
They had to be 'fixed', to make up for the 'original sin' of being marketed initially at a particular demographic.

 

[Comicsgeist]

I could see doing a miniseries with Obi-Wan on Tattoine. It'd be him trying to piece together a life, try and struggle to watch over Luke and failing to befriend the Owens due to bad blood. And for action dealing with Huttese mobsters or Sand People raids.

All while watching over and hanging out with Luke, relaxing a bit despite his own failures.

It's gonna be a character assassination though, because Disney is going to underfund it and get a shit actor and an arrogant dick of a director though.

I've always thought that the best way to go with an Obi-Wan movie would be to craft it as a western.
You cast Obi-Wan as a 'Shane' character, the gunslinger that has put down his lightsaber and it trying to live a quiet and simple life but circumstances won't allow it.
You could get a 'High Noon' showdown with the Hutts or Ben joining a 'Searchers' style scenario in which he has to hunt down a Tusken raiding party that has kidnapped a small child (guess who!).
The elements are all there. Obi-Wan, the mysterious lone gun slinger, Mos Eisley, Deadwood, the Hutts, wealthy ranchers with bountyhunters as their enforcers and the Tusken Raiders are the feathers not dots Indians.

 

[Ghostse]

I could see doing a miniseries with Obi-Wan on Tattoine. It'd be him trying to piece together a life, try and struggle to watch over Luke and failing to befriend the Owens due to bad blood. And for action dealing with Huttese mobsters or Sand People raids.

All while watching over and hanging out with Luke, relaxing a bit despite his own failures.

It's gonna be a character assassination though, because Disney is going to underfund it and get a shit actor and an arrogant dick of a director though.

I generally dislike the constant injection of "Dark, Gritty Angst" into media it doesn't belong but...
But I'd like to see Obi-Wan moving to Tattoine and having to accept that he could grab his light saber and just murder his way through Mos Eisley and the Hutts and everyone's lives would be better for it...but he can't, because if he does, the Empire will find him and find Luke. Just really drill home how much Kenobi has sacrificed to keep Luke safe.

Of course, a) that wouldn't adapt well to a mini-series. and b) would fly against the new "Original Characters are expendable as we kill them off willy-nilly to avoid paying Lucas" direction Disney's taking.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Curious question for you all, out of 5 how would you all rank the Skywalker Saga movies (TPM-TLJ)?

 

[BrunoMattei]

 

[Flexo]

Curious question for you all, out of 5 how would you all rank the Skywalker Saga movies (TPM-TLJ)?

ESB
ANH
ROTJ-ROTS (tie)
AOTC
TPM

 

[Iceland Heavy]

Curious question for you all, out of 5 how would you all rank the Skywalker Saga movies (TPM-TLJ)?

5 tier
ESB

4.5 tier
ROTJ, ANH

4 tier
ROTS

3 tier
TPM

2 tier
AOTC
TFA (as an actual movie)

1 tier
TFA (as for what it did to the setting)

tier
TLJ, almost certainly ROS when it comes out

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Curious question for you all, out of 5 how would you all rank the Skywalker Saga movies (TPM-TLJ)?

Using an adapted version of the classic 3.5 ranking system because why the hell not:

CoDzilla Tier: ESB
Sorcerer Tier: ANH, RotS
Paladin Tier: RotJ, TPM, TFA
Rogue Tier: AotC
Truenamer Tier: TLJ

 

[RumblyTumbly]

Out of 5, I'd grade the Skywalker Saga episodes like this:

A New Hope = 5/5
Empire Strikes Back = 5/5
Return of the Jedi = 5/5
Phantom Menace = 2/5
Attack of the Clones = 2/5
Revenge of the Sith = 3/5
The Force Awakens = 3/5
The Last Jedi = 2/5

Some might say I'm being too nice with these scores, but the point is, OT owns all, and nothing has come close to matching it.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

For me

A New Hope = 5/5
Empire Strikes Back = 5/5
Return of the Jedi = 4/5
Phantom Menace = 3/5
Attack of the Clones = 3/5
Revenge of the Sith = 4/5
The Force Awakens = 1/5
The Last Jedi = 1.5/5

BONUS:
Rogue One = 2/5
Solo = 3/5

 

[JohnDoe]

The irony here is that women like Braveheart and Saving Private Ryan more than the Disney Star Wars movies despite being more male-centric in its storylines.

Women can recognize a good movie, despite the so-called feminists insisting that women are so stupid and lacking in empathy that they could never connect with a male character or enjoy male-centric storylines.