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Last night, I decided to watch some Netflix while I was cleaning up the house (because, you know, doing housework in full silence is monotonous).

I saw that there were still some Disney movies, so I decided to re-watch Lilo and Stitch. This was the first time I had watched it since it came out almost 20 years ago, pretty much. I remember not liking the movie when I first saw it, so it has taken me forever to give it another chance.

Yeah, it's an okay movie. I know that a lot of people are obsessed with it, though. I've seen people get legitimately emotional when talking about how much they love Stitch, lol. I get the appeal with Stitch himself: He's a cute and mischievous alien. The movie itself, though? The family "drama" was good ... But I personally could not have cared less about the alien stuff, which is what I remember disliking the first time I saw the movie.

So yeah, still not a favorite of mine ... But it might as well be Citizen Kane compared to the shit that Disney releases these days.
 
Alto said:
The Andy Serkis Trilogy was actually pretty damn good and managed to find and captivate an audience little by little. I wonder if this will be continuing from where the last one left off.
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Lensherr said:
There are several possible routes they could go. One option being following Caesar's son after the events of the last movie. Or they could straight up remake the first movie.
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Alto said:
Given Caesar's soft spot and compassion for humans, it would make sense to make a trilogy explaining why apes decided to view humans so negatively and put them in cages, especially after working so hard to move far away from them and let them blow up each other.

But that's too complicated a story for Disney to handle. My guess is a complete reboot.
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An Apes reboot from Disney would probably be so woke that it makes the social commentary in the 1968 original subtitle.
 
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StarkRavingMad said:
Last night, I decided to watch some Netflix while I was cleaning up the house (because, you know, doing housework in full silence is monotonous).

I saw that there were still some Disney movies, so I decided to re-watch Lilo and Stitch. This was the first time I had watched it since it came out almost 20 years ago, pretty much. I remember not liking the movie when I first saw it, so it has taken me forever to give it another chance.

Yeah, it's an okay movie. I know that a lot of people are obsessed with it, though. I've seen people get legitimately emotional when talking about how much they love Stitch, lol. I get the appeal with Stitch himself: He's a cute and mischievous alien. The movie itself, though? The family "drama" was good ... But I personally could not have cared less about the alien stuff, which is what I remember disliking the first time I saw the movie.

So yeah, still not a favorite of mine ... But it might as well be Citizen Kane compared to the shit that Disney releases these days.
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I’ve seen that criticism before, and it’s understandable.

For me though, Juumba was a really fun character.

Besides that, the movie kind of resonates with me a lot for some reason. It feels just so different from most other Disney films. More sincere. If that makes any sense.
 
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scorptatious said:
Not sure if this has been discussed already, but for those who loved The Lion King, what exactly are your thoughts on the whole Kimba thing?

I absolutely adored the movie as a kid and still do to an extent, but judging from what I've seen of comparison images, it's hard for me to deny that it isn't just a coincidence that they look extremely similar.
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There are some minor ideas and imagery that are likely influential, though I find it amusing that people usually use the TV show for their claims when 80's standalone remake movie had more of the familiar imagery. Which itself seems to have had influences from the opening scene of Bambi (in my opinion). In terms in story however they don't really match up at all.

At any rate it doesn't matter because Tezuka's son says he feels honored that Disney thought his father's work was good enough to use, and that Tezuka would've felt the same way. Especially since Tezuka was an illustrator for official Japanese Disney comics, was trained by some of the animators, and was influenced by the studio's work as a whole.

Honestly the people who get assmad about the whole thing are just weebs with the "everything Western sucks!" mindset.
 
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friedshrimp said:
Yeah, I always felt it was pretty autistic the Kimba sperging people do. Especially since most of the people ranting about it never watched the anime in the first place to notice the differences or similarities beyond just the visual stuff.
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Kimba is more like Babar anyway with it's main character finding out how humans live and wants the jungle to conform to this ideal.
 
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scorptatious said:
Not sure if this has been discussed already, but for those who loved The Lion King, what exactly are your thoughts on the whole Kimba thing?

I absolutely adored the movie as a kid and still do to an extent, but judging from what I've seen of comparison images, it's hard for me to deny that it isn't just a coincidence that they look extremely similar.
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There’s nothing inherently wrong with remakes or adaptations. The Lion King is still an amazing movie in its own right, it taking shots and a general plot from another work doesn’t detract from that.

I can even believe that the animators and most people working on the film didn’t know they were ripping off an old Japanese film - it’s probably one or two guys up top who had that idea and thought, this is obscure enough, nobody will find out.
 
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Gar For Archer said:
There’s nothing inherently wrong with remakes or adaptations. The Lion King is still an amazing movie in its own right, it taking shots and a general plot from another work doesn’t detract from that.

I can even believe that the animators and most people working on the film didn’t know they were ripping off an old Japanese film - it’s probably one or two guys up top who had that idea and thought, this is obscure enough, nobody will find out.
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I'm sure that's all it was, don't forget Kimba was only aired in syndication and probably only for a few years between stations in the US prior to the 1980's when it fell out of public view.
 
So I took the dive into checking out the Tangled Animated Series, because lots of people have recommended it to me and have promised me that it is worth my time.

Just got all caught up, and, yeah. I am really enjoying it! Dare I say, I think the series is superior to the actual movie so far.

 
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Kurosaki Ichigo said:

Since Kimba was brought up.
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To say this guy is grasping at straws is a massive understatement. In order for this to work there would've had to have been zero animal movies and movies without villains or dramatic shots between the release of Kimba and The Lion King. These people who want to believe in this just look for the most basic visual and plot similarities and blatantly ignore every other piece of media that has done the same thing. Even "there's white lions in the earliest concept art" falls apart because white lions are a legitimate color variation, not to mention the two drawings of white lions were probably actually regular lions dramatically lit when you look at the whole picture and not just the lion.

And yet the comments are wall to wall weebs talking about how Lion King is a 100% ripoff and how much they hate it because it's American a ripoff. I can pretty much guarantee that if The Lion King was never made not only would they never talk about Kimba ever, on the occasion it'd be brought up they'd likely just dismiss it as total shit from an era of anime only old people like because the good stuff didn't come until years later.
 
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MysticMisty said:
To say this guy is grasping at straws is a massive understatement. In order for this to work there would've had to have been zero animal movies and movies without villains or dramatic shots between the release of Kimba and The Lion King. These people who want to believe in this just look for the most basic visual and plot similarities and blatantly ignore every other piece of media that has done the same thing. Even "there's white lions in the earliest concept art" falls apart because white lions are a legitimate color variation, not to mention the two drawings of white lions were probably actually regular lions dramatically lit when you look at the whole picture and not just the lion.

And yet the comments are wall to wall weebs talking about how Lion King is a 100% ripoff and how much they hate it because it's American a ripoff. I can pretty much guarantee that if The Lion King was never made not only would they never talk about Kimba ever, on the occasion it'd be brought up they'd likely just dismiss it as total shit from an era of anime only old people like because the good stuff didn't come until years later.
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I suppose so. Hell even the whole Hamlet theming can go deeper, if I’m not mistaken the old African tale of Sundiata is the same story as well?
 
MysticMisty said:
And yet the comments are wall to wall weebs talking about how Lion King is a 100% ripoff and how much they hate it because it's American a ripoff. I can pretty much guarantee that if The Lion King was never made not only would they never talk about Kimba ever, on the occasion it'd be brought up they'd likely just dismiss it as total shit from an era of anime only old people like because the good stuff didn't come until years later.
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That's the irony of older anime, nobody cares. Nobody would've thought of Kimba in the 90's had it not been for TLK.
 
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