Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Vault Boy]

I remember that episode having an obnoxious amount of Ezra in it, so apparently not.

Yeah, that episode had way too much filler before it got to the stuff fans had been waiting for.

At least the guy who voiced Obi-Wan did a decent Alec Guinness impersonation, I'd be cool if he did some more voice overs.

 

[Dogs can't look up]

Probably didn't help that their final duel lasted about as long as an eye blink.

I get it, they were old and not all duels have to be extravagant, but they couldn't have made it last more than a few seconds?

They were trying to recreate the old samurai movie duels. That was my take at least. I thought it worked.

Besides, IMo the story was already done. If Maul had produced a blaster and shot Obi in the face I would shrugged and moved onto the next episode as I did anyway.

 

[HeyYou]

Yeah, that episode had way too much filler before it got to the stuff fans had been waiting for.

At least the guy who voiced Obi-Wan did a decent Alec Guinness impersonation, I'd be cool if he did some more voice overs.

The little moment at the end where Maul let go of his anger and was satisfied in the possibility that Luke will finally defeat Palps was pretty nice, though. He wasn't happy about it for the same reasons Obi-Wan was (he just wanted Palps fucked over) but it showed a capacity to think beyond himself and to let someone else steal his revenge from him, which was Maul's major character flaw. Like you said, though, literally everyone wanted that to be the largest part of the episode.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Here's everything I do know.

Clone Wars got teased and it featured a clip of Ahsoka vs Maul... The show will premiere only on Disney+ in February.

Mandalorian takes place 9 years after ROTJ. Premiers in November.

The Kenobi series takes place 8 years after ROTS and will feature kid Luke.

They were bragging about the Mexican Kyle Katarn show a bit. He's called Caisian Andor or something and it will also feature the nihilistic droid from RO again. It will come out in 2021.

Nothing new on IX so far.

They released an official shitty timeline showing commitment to not retconning any of their crap any time soon.
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This might actually put a damper on any hopes of a time travel retcon in IX to undo Disney's mess. Especially since the mexican Kyle Katarn show is still in the works. Then again, its scheduled for 2021, so who knows.
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Isn't Age of Resistance also the title of the Dark Crystal Sequel?

Also wouldn't the Age of Resistance stretch back to the OT since you're basically still fighting the same factions and people since Palpatine is still alive?

 

[Creep3r]

It looks like my suspicion may have been right that the new dirty dozen of TCW episodes will largely be "What (and maybe who) Ahsoka did after she left the Jedi" -- especially with this trailer clip that looks like something from her showdown with Maul during the Siege of Mandalore right as Order 66 begins. In short, nothing of much value for anyone apart from the die-hard SW and Ahsoka spergs.

Pretty much. 12 episodes are all that will be made and only 4 of them aren't Ahsoka-focused... Among the 12, only 4 of the 8 original poorly animated episodes have been confirmed to be in the final season and there's been no confirmation on whether or not the other 4 episodes will ever be reanimated (but they sure as heck won't be on Disney+). The 4 not-Ahsoka episodes in question that will be reanimated are from the Bad Batch arc which is about Anakin teaming up with Clone Force 99, a clone unit made up of defective but highly skilled clones. The 4 episodes that won't get reanimated are the Utapau episodes where Grievous is actually a badass again... The other 8 confirmed episodes (all Ahsoka...) are mostly ones that weren't even partly animated at all aside from a few scenes but had finished scripts, however some of them will be "updated" for the revival, like the Ahsoka episode where her snarky asian love interest has now been replaced by lesbian space bikers.

Among the untouched scripts for Filoni Wars there were two seasons worth of episodes that only got a few scenes animated, and only a select few are getting adapted for Disney+, mainly the Ahsoka arc which is 4 episodes long and explains how she deals with her banishment and the Mandalorian arc (with Ahsoka) which is 4 episodes too, which means the other unfinished stories will never see the light of day despite being the last things George and his original story team ever worked on.

10 story arcs in all were mostly written up for seasons 7 and 8, but only 2 (the two Ahsoka ones mentioned above) will be animated, while 2 others were adapted into a Disney book and comic (mainly a Maul and Ventress story, although Maul's shit might get referenced in the Disney+ version). Among the now 6 lost story arcs are:

1: The Bounty Hunter arc which would conclude Boba's story in FW and pit him against Cad Bane in a battle to the death and it would also serve as a tie-in to the cancelled 1313 game (their poorly rendered fight scene is available on youtube).
2: Another Ahsoka arc (set before her banishment) where she discovers some gigantic bones beneath Coruscant and Palpatine wants to steal Jedi holocrons but Ahsoka stops him. Ahsoka wankery mainly.
3: Kashyyyk arc where its explained how Yoda grew such close ties with the wookiees and it would be Chewbacca's first major role in FW. It was mostly EU fanservice filled with references to a lot of games, comics and books all relating to Kashyyyk and Chewbacca, and it would deal with Wookiees and their long standing feud with the Trandoshans who have joined forces with the CIS.
4: The R2 & Rex arc was about R2 and Rex forming a bond after getting stranded on the moons of Ryloth. They end up reprogramming a broken Battle Droid. The arc was a comedy but eventually dealt with some dark themes apparently like how both Rex and the droids deal with their own expendability and self-worth.
5: Another Mon Calamari arc focusing around Padme trying to stabilize hostilities between the Mon Calamari and the Quarren again.
6: The Yuuzhan Vong arc... Probably the most controversial one due to that it would effectively retcon the entirety of the Vong and how they fucked the Galaxy. The story would be a horror/thriller/mystery themed story similar to the X-Files and would involve a Vong scout ship that just arrived in the galaxy from the Void to study the Republic's defenses and in the process would abduct a native lifeform for study. They would serve as a mysterious presence throughout the arc. The Vong were still evil skull-faced Hellraisers who used organic tech, but Filoni reimagined them as no longer being immune to the Force and made them detectable.

I suspect the reshoots must still be in-progress to not have an (updated?) trailer for Episode IX at this event. Had the reshoots been complete or focused on minor/inconsequential scenes, one would think someone in Disney/Lucasfilm would cobble together a trailer from the completed stuff to get fans interested in the film. It certainly doesn't look good, huh?

Seems to be the case. A trailer for IX along with several minutes of new footage were promised but nothing has come of this aside from a measly clip show trailer which is mostly about Frozen II. Most people on Facebook, 4chan and Reddit won't shut up about Vader's helmet and how "hot" Kylo Ren is. Some are even talking about Vader and Palpatine's clones being in the film simply because of the white room Kylo is in since "OMG ITS KAMINO!"...

And the Reylo faggotry is everywhere.

 

[Miller]

Palpatine wants to steal Jedi holocrons but Ahsoka stops him

Again? That was a Cad Bane episode in the second (?) season of TCW.
People think that Filoni Wars is back but I don't believe it at all. They're going to rewrite the scripts to fit the current Disney/LF agenda. The fact that the entire season is about Ahsoka says a lot. Don't get me wrong, I like her (more in TCW than Rebels) but TCW is more than Anakin and his padawan.

At least the guy who voiced Obi-Wan did a decent Alec Guinness impersonation

He also did the voice of Tarkin on TCW and Rebels.

Probably didn't help that their final duel lasted about as long as an eye blink.
I get it, they were old and not all duels have to be extravagant, but they couldn't have made it last more than a few seconds?

I'm fine with the fight being quick but I wish they had a duel with words before, instead of 3/4 of Space Aladdin wandering in the desert.

They released an official shitty timeline showing commitment to not retconning any of their crap any time soon.

Age of Rebellion followed by Age of Resistance and nothing happened in between. I hate what they did to SW.

Nothing new on IX so far.

Nothing at 4 months from the premiere... holy shit.

Not bad. I like the cinematography. It's closer to Rogue One than JJ.
The IG droid looks pretty cool in live-action, I just hope it doesn't make quips. It's also nice to see the Deathtroopers although I remember how poorly they were treated in SW Rebels, easily defeated by Space Aladdin, the mandalorian tumblr gf and notChe Guevarra.

 

[Jub-Jub]

I know the mandalorian has been in production for a long time at this point, yet I find it so annoying that it's (again) based in the Skywalker timeline and not something like a KOTOR's mandalorian war expansion.

A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.

Give me something outside the ~60years skywalker story-line, FFS.

 

[Tookie]

The IG droid looks pretty cool in live-action, I just hope it doesn't make quips.

Having him be completely silent would be kind of cool.

 

[Ihavetinyweewee]

Well, the verdict is out, today, on the status of IX. If nothing of significance is shown at the panel: I strongly suspect IX is an utter production shitshow.

They need, at the very least, a secondary teaser to show. Waiting, until October, to release a full blown trailer is a mistake. They need something of significance to begin their marketing campaign. The current pulse of Star Wars is not what it was before TFA or TLJ.

Otherwise, there is a very high chance they can open the film to complete apathy.

In case of the reshoots, they're reshooting perhaps 20 percent of the film, at most? This can't be a Solo situation because they don't have enough time. So if its akin to Rogue One, they should have more than enough footage to put something together.

The only logical conclusion, the movie is a mess. It can't be salvaged, and Disney is 'cutting their losses' with it...

Mandalorian looks decent, but 'looks' and 'is' are different things. I did cringe at the carbon freezing stuff. Carbon freezing people was not some common practice, that I'm aware of. Unless, they're gonna establish its some sort of Mandalorian bounty hunter trick..

 

[Oaat]

TLJ sequel/spinoff idea: The story follows a large group of ex-resistance who deserted during the chase after Rose stopped guarding the escape pods. (A rebel force of just 400 people? Only 12 survivors? What is this, a neolithic army? Give me a fucking break) Now they're living and working at the fringes of the galaxy, hiding from the First Order who has taken over the galaxy and are searching for anyone with rebel ties. These deserters have become cynical assholes, and look back on the failed Resistance bitterly. The First Order won't even let people have fun websites anymore without having their servers pulled out of racks and their DDoS mitigation terminated and search engines delisting them.

 

[Raging Capybara]

Star Wars is dead.

The Mandalorian trailer was unveiled yesterday and it gathered a "whopping" 50k tweets worldwide. If you are a sane person and don't use twitter I explain it to you: it's bad, really bad.

Any fart Trump makes on that Godforsaken site accumulates millions of tweets in minutes. When spiderman terminated its relationship with Disney it caused a storm on twitter of proportions rarely seen. Dozen of different hashtags with hundreds of thousands of mentions dominated the worldwide trending topics the whole day. The fucking Matrix 4 announcement almost reached half a million tweets and remained on the top ten TTs a long ass time.

Mandalorian got a laughable amount of mentions and It barely got to the 20 most commented topics on the site. It's so bad that I have a hard time expressing it in words.

Star Wars died. Nothing can be done anymore. Episode IX is destinated to flop.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Still can't believe the post ROTJ disney lore has the Empire starts attacking itself because the Emperor who planned to live forever has a failsafe in case he dies where he depends on his officers blindly destroying their own worlds for a dead emperor

The Empire is completely defeated within a year and flees into the unkown regions after the Battle of Jakku
The New Republic then decides to dismantle almost its entire military
The imperial survivors form the first order where Snoke magically appears and seizes control.
The First Order builds a enormous fleet, a enormous super weapon, a enormous army, and starts subverting the New Republic without the New Republic leadership taking it finding out or taking any information about it seriously.
Luke's jedi academy is destroyed when Kylo shoots up the school because snoke gave him bad dreams.
And so after a decade with not much happening you get TFA.

I can craft a better backstory at the top of my head.

Imma going to tell you my "What i'd have done if I was JJ Abrams" Pitch

OG SW was WW2
PT SW was WW2/Cold War (but done badly)

Sequel Trilogy Star Wars is 9-11 and the Global War on Terror [A thing many of the kid fans of the PT and Clone Wars series have experienced as actual soldiers]

Battle of Endor ends the war. But the Battle of Endor just didnt MAGICALLY end the war. While Luke/Leia/Han/Lando Et Al were doing the decapitation strike on imperial high command rebel forces Galaxy wide all struck.

Imperial forces and basically War Criminals imperial folks flee into the outer regions. Grand Admiral Thrawn signs the treaty paperwork where the new republic agrees not to pursue them, and do a general amnesty for mid to low tier imperials.

Leia and Mon Mothma run as part of a Parliamentary faction that is unable to secure the largest plurality but is part of a ruling coalition. Leia is kept on as the celebrity war hero in the government but she finds thats all of what she is used for. This starts to toxify her Marriage to Han. But she has kids, its hugely popular and gives her political career a boost....for a while. But that also taints the marriage.

Han takes a job at the Republic War Academy. Because not only was he a Hero, a General, and a Guerilla fighter. he was also a smuggler, a scoundral....AND a former Imperial officer. But BEING the Hero...being part of the government of the galaxy [even in a minor way] Chafes at him. He feels his desire to run off in the Falcon is super selfish given what all leia is going through. But the fact he doesnt tell her how unhappy he is taints their marriage.

Lando sells out and becomes stupid Rich. He tries to smarten up Leia on whats actually going on politically but she is to prideful and idealistic. He gets in a huge fight with Han after telling him he needs to man up in his marriage. Lando for those (and other reasons) helps finance the movement that kicks Leia back into the senate and out of former politics. Cutting him off from Leia for good. And he was the god father for their kids.

Luke spends his time finding all of the Jedi secrets out there [and putting the sith secret sin lock down]. Luke forms a new Jedi academy after INTENSE pressure from the New Republic. At the time of the new movie he still only has a handful of students. Han and Leia's son and Daughter are there and Itchy ((Chewbacca's son)) is there. Luke is distant from Han and Leia (over their dying and later dead marriage). The Death of the marriage hangs heavily on the Son of Han and Leia who was luke's first student. Less on the daughter who is the BEST student.

All of that changes when a former Imperial Loyalist world gets glassed by "Soldiers of the True Sith"

The New Republic senate is in turmoil as the new government [Primarily former imperials and business interests] is trying to figure out how to respond to this terrorist attack.

And Leia recieves word that a STORM TROOPER is on Tattooine in violation of the treaty of endor. He says he has a secret that will save the galaxy

 

[Godzilla@1989]

If reshoots are still in progress without new footage, I suspect there won’t be a panel from the cast. Just some update from Iger or Alan Horn.

I strongly suspect IX is an utter production shitshow.

They need, at the very least, a secondary teaser to show. Waiting, until October, to release a full blown trailer is a mistake. They need something of significance to begin their marketing campaign. The current pulse of Star Wars is not what it was before TFA or TLJ.

I strongly believe IX is a bigger nightmare of a production as well and yet the media aren’t reporting it like they should. I imagine there was a heated argument between Kennedy and JJ that caused the friction of the film’s tone and vision, which probably explains the reshoots.

Regardless, IX will fail to live up to the expectations that is crushing its shoulders.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

I strongly believe IX is a bigger nightmare of a production as well and yet the media aren’t reporting it like they should. I imagine there was a heated argument between Kennedy and JJ that caused the friction of the film’s tone and vision, which probably explains the reshoots.

Regardless, IX will fail to live up to the expectations that is crushing its shoulders.

But wasnt Iger the guy with final sign off?

 

[Godzilla@1989]

But wasnt Iger the guy with final sign off?

I honestly don’t know how active he is regarding viewing rough cuts or not given he’s the CEO for all of Disney.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

I honestly don’t know how active he is regarding viewing rough cuts or not given he’s the CEO for all of Disney.

But he assured investors the Buck stops with him on Star Wars

 

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

Probably didn't help that their final duel lasted about as long as an eye blink.

I get it, they were old and not all duels have to be extravagant, but they couldn't have made it last more than a few seconds?

Yeah, that episode had way too much filler before it got to the stuff fans had been waiting for.

At least the guy who voiced Obi-Wan did a decent Alec Guinness impersonation, I'd be cool if he did some more voice overs.

Maul v. Obi-Wan on Tatooine was hyped so much that to see the duel itself last 30 seconds, give or take, was very anticlimactic and underwhelming. Maybe if Obi-Wan had said, "Too predictable," after striking down Maul so quick, it could have been somewhat better/salavagable, but it seems as if everyone involved cared more about the hype than the actual showdown.

Among the untouched scripts for Filoni Wars there were two seasons worth of episodes that only got a few scenes animated, and only a select few are getting adapted for Disney+, mainly the Ahsoka arc which is 4 episodes long and explains how she deals with her banishment and the Mandalorian arc (with Ahsoka) which is 4 episodes too, which means the other unfinished stories will never see the light of day despite being the last things George and his original story team ever worked on.

10 story arcs in all were mostly written up for seasons 7 and 8, but only 2 (the two Ahsoka ones mentioned above) will be animated, while 2 others were adapted into a Disney book and comic (mainly a Maul and Ventress story, although Maul's shit might get referenced in the Disney+ version). Among the now 6 lost story arcs are:

1: The Bounty Hunter arc which would conclude Boba's story in FW and pit him against Cad Bane in a battle to the death and it would also serve as a tie-in to the cancelled 1313 game (their poorly rendered fight scene is available on youtube).
2: Another Ahsoka arc (set before her banishment) where she discovers some gigantic bones beneath Coruscant and Palpatine wants to steal Jedi holocrons but Ahsoka stops him. Ahsoka wankery mainly.
3: Kashyyyk arc where its explained how Yoda grew such close ties with the wookiees and it would be Chewbacca's first major role in FW. It was mostly EU fanservice filled with references to a lot of games, comics and books all relating to Kashyyyk and Chewbacca, and it would deal with Wookiees and their long standing feud with the Trandoshans who have joined forces with the CIS.
4: The R2 & Rex arc was about R2 and Rex forming a bond after getting stranded on the moons of Ryloth. They end up reprogramming a broken Battle Droid. The arc was a comedy but eventually dealt with some dark themes apparently like how both Rex and the droids deal with their own expendability and self-worth.
5: Another Mon Calamari arc focusing around Padme trying to stabilize hostilities between the Mon Calamari and the Quarren again.
6: The Yuuzhan Vong arc... Probably the most ambitious one due to that it would effectively retcon the entirety of the Vong and how they fucked the Galaxy. The story would be a horror/thriller/mystery themed story similar to the X-Files and would involve a Vong scout ship that just arrived in the galaxy from the Void to study the Republic's defenses and in the process would abduct a native lifeform for study. They would serve as a mysterious presence throughout the arc. The Vong were still evil skull-faced Hellraisers who used organic tech, but George reimagined them to no longer be immune to the Force and make them detectable.

I had found a web page covering these arcs ages ago (shortly after TCW ended and before I discovered the 'Farms). I didn't bother to bookmark or archive the information because I found most of these arcs uninteresting based on description alone and thought that just maybe Disney did the right thing in ending TCW before it could be drawn out, watered down, and jump the shark worse than it may already have after five full seasons.

The only remotely interesting ideas in this list and and your comments are R2/Rex in something largely comedic and a horror-type arc involving the new Vong. Everything else is such that it's no great loss that it likely won't see the light of day given Disney's tendencies to turn everything SW it touches into something worse than trash.

 

[XYZpdq]

Here's everything I do know.

Clone Wars got teased and it featured a clip of Ahsoka vs Maul... The show will premiere only on Disney+ in February.

Mandalorian takes place 9 years after ROTJ. Premiers in November.

The Kenobi series takes place 8 years after ROTS and will feature kid Luke.

They were bragging about the Mexican Kyle Katarn show a bit. He's called Caisian Andor or something and it will also feature the nihilistic droid from RO again. It will come out in 2021.

Nothing new on IX so far.

They released an official shitty timeline showing commitment to not retconning any of their crap any time soon.
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This might actually put a damper on any hopes of a time travel retcon in IX to undo Disney's mess. Especially since the mexican Kyle Katarn show is still in the works. Then again, its scheduled for 2021, so who knows.
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Timeline doesn't discourage me from time travel. If anything it's suspicious that they suddenly give any fucks about keeping track of it.

 

[Creep3r]

Again? That was a Cad Bane episode in the second (?) season of TCW.

Yeah, but its a weird one due to that it also revolves around the ruins of a sith temple buried beneath the jedi one and that there's a giant skeleton there, also Palpatine goes to get the holocron himself. Whole thing sounds weird and just seems to exist to have Ahsoka briefly clash with Palpatine.

People think that Filoni Wars is back but I don't believe it at all. They're going to rewrite the scripts to fit the current Disney/LF agenda. The fact that the entire season is about Ahsoka says a lot. Don't get me wrong, I like her (more in TCW than Rebels) but TCW is more than Anakin and his padawan.

Yep. I was never fond of the idea of Anakin having an apprentice between AOTC and ROTS, and I was always indifferent to Ahsoka but I ended up not minding her and I thought that they were going to do something big and emotional with her character by having her die in Anakin's arms which would further push him to the Dark Side or have a tragic fight between the two in the Jedi Temple, but instead Filoni admits in interviews that he doesn't want her or Rex to die, removing any tension and then writes her out because he can't bear to see his waifu die. Then Rebels comes along and she becomes a terrible character (much like the rest of the show) but they finally have the big Vader vs Ahsoka fight which was the show's only saving grace, but then Filoni once again lets his bias show through and brings her back via fucking time travel. The fact that the current revival is just Ahsoka wankery except for 4 episodes is a pretty sad revelation, and the fact that they won't be adapting the Utapau, Kashyyyk or Boba episodes is just horribly disappointing.

To worsen the matter, Filoni did an interview with IGN officially confirming there won't be anymore Clone Wars media after this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O51BVxxhHI Aaaaand he's wearing a wolf pin on his cowboy hat... In the same interview he hopes that Ahsoka makes it into live-action... Also the guy sounds awfully depressed. Weird.

I'm fine with the fight being quick but I wish they had a duel with words before, instead of 3/4 of Space Aladdin wandering in the desert.

Maul and the whole thing were better off not being in Rebels. They should've just made it a separate animated special or save it for the Kenobi movie/show. But Rebels just had to have Aladdin confront every single movie character to the point where he even does more than Luke. The original Tales comic that the Kenobi and Maul fight came from could've been the basis for its own thing, but instead they throw it into space Aladdin's show and we have to endure his underwhelming presence.

Age of Rebellion followed by Age of Resistance and nothing happened in between. I hate what they did to SW.

And the Age of Resistance is practically empty, only having the shitty sequel films, Galaxy's Edge and that awful Resistance cartoon, meanwhile they just keep cramming more and more crap into the OT era and finding new ways to fuck it instead of sticking with fucking their own OCs. On the bright side, they at least didn't put Chuck Wendig's Aftermath trilogy in there despite being "the most essential novel" under Disney Wars.

Nothing at 4 months from the premiere... holy shit.

They're having a IX panel right now as I write this apparently. But there's no new footage. Its just Kennedy and JJ sucking eachother off and Kennedy reveals that she's known JJ since he was 15. Most of the actors except Adam Driver show up, and John Boyega talks about how he's not happy with Keri Russel's character's connection to Poe.

Brett White on Twitter

“John Boyega is NOT happy about whatever history Poe had with Keri Russell’s character.”

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It's also nice to see the Deathtroopers although I remember how poorly they were treated in SW Rebels, easily defeated by Space Aladdin, the mandalorian tumblr gf and notChe Guevarra.

Always expect the worst and cringiest results. Show revolves around the Mando and his Bounty Hunting guild which is mostly made up of women, midgets and IG-11.

Star Wars is dead.

The Mandalorian trailer was unveiled yesterday and it gathered a "whopping" 50k tweets worldwide. If you are a sane person and don't use twitter I explain it to you: it's bad, really bad.

Any fart Trump makes on that Godforsaken site accumulates millions of tweets in minutes. When spiderman terminated its relationship with Disney it caused a storm on twitter of proportions rarely seen. Dozen of different hashtags with hundreds of thousands of mentions dominated the worldwide trending topics the whole day. The fucking Matrix 4 announcement almost reached half a million tweets and remained on the top ten TTs a long ass time.

Mandalorian got a laughable amount of mentions and It barely got to the 20 most commented topics on the site. It's so bad that I have a hard time expressing it in words.

Star Wars died. Nothing can be done anymore. Episode IX is destinated to flop.

Wait for real? I did not see that coming.

 

[$MY_COCK]

Disney+ looks like AIDS. Positive my ass.