ANTIFA / Antifascist Action / Antifaschistische Aktion - The anti-fascist gang with fascist tendencies

[teriyakiburns]

Also they say

"Hey some obscure British Fascist we stopped."

That one pisses me off big-time. The "battle" of Cable Street didn't stop Mosley, it just shifted his priorities. Before that, he had been determined to come to power by legitimate election, but wasn't gaining much success and was quickly losing support by his grandstanding. Cable Street did two things: it galvanised his support amongst the working and middle class, and it convinced him that the only way to achieve his aims was by armed insurrection against the state. The counter-"protestors" achieved the exact opposite of their goal; it was only the advent of the war and his arrest and confinement under emergency war powers that stopped him.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

That one pisses me off big-time. The "battle" of Cable Street didn't stop Mosley, it just shifted his priorities. Before that, he had been determined to come to power by legitimate election, but wasn't gaining much success and was quickly losing support by his grandstanding. Cable Street did two things: it galvanised his support amongst the working and middle class, and it convinced him that the only way to achieve his aims was by armed insurrection against the state. The counter-"protestors" achieved the exact opposite of their goal; it was only the advent of the war and his arrest and confinement under emergency war powers that stopped him.

Meanwhile the Duke of Windsor was an ACTUAL traitor and collaborator with the Nazis.

And Hesse was likely going to try to do a coup to restore him to power

 

[MirrorNoir]

now if they really want more people to join them just recreate the 2008 recession. That event (caused by the likes of Bernie Madoff) and the bailouts did more to turn folks into commies then any street protest ever did.

Not going to happen, because the maggots have been foaming at the mouth DEMANDING TPTB cause an economic collapse to punish Trump voters and force them, as a result of destroying their lives, to renounce Trump and vote for whoever the DNC shoves down our throats.

It created such a backlash that any sort of recession on Trump's watch will 100% be blamed on the lunatic left and basically push us to the 1929 point of no return on the Weimer timescale and that even if Trump DOES lose in the following election, the left will effectively created their own holocaust sine the country will never forgive them and start the long overdo bloodletting with the first extremist to call out Trump for not going far enough to make good on his promises to drain the swamp.

 

[TowinKarz]

You had me until the "Weimar II, Democratic shoot-a-loo" part..... then you went crazy.

 

[SmallTalk201]

That's one thing I always thought on myself, like the idea that the current age Tumblr SJW Progressivism never really became a thing until OWS reached it's peak and ended up making the movement flatline. Anyone else ever got the feeling at least a good amount of it was some legit PsyOps shit from the people that were willing to see OWS delegitimized? We already know that there were some feds in Antifa's ranks during the demonstrations there, so I don't imagine it would've been too far out of the realm of possibility yeah I do. It was just too convenient and timed just right. Ows goal was to focus on class issues and libtards steered that sh It away from the original mission. They'll end up shut out during the wave of popular anger because the only thing Antifa has that might be relatable to the average person is their anti-capitalism (especially when targetted against big banks). Anti-capitalism has a long history which modern Antifa appropriates. It has nothing to do with Antifa's bizarre promotion of troons/tumblr genders or demand that white people apologize for their race. Although remember that Occupy Wall Street was ground zero for the progtard movement thanks to it being infiltrated to focus on "progressive stacks" or simply getting stoned all day so I predict Antifa will be big in this coming recession simply because they're already a good asset to distract people from the real issues. A lot of forums I like on often have leftists talking about why they went red and the like. It was because of the great recession and the people responsible not being held accountable. They felt as the idea of rule of law failed and began looking else where for ideas. Low and behind they found socialism, anarchism and marx. Having many schemes ( such as Madoff s) designed to imploded after a while would cause another collapse. Weaponized White collar crime would further antifas aims a lot further then street fig ghts. History has shown during severe economic downturns do cause a rife of radical activity. Great depression and pre world war Germany is a great example.

 

[Webby's Boyfriend]

Although remember that Occupy Wall Street was ground zero for the progtard movement thanks to it being infiltrated to focus on "progressive stacks" or simply getting stoned all day so I predict Antifa will be big in this coming recession simply because they're already a good asset to distract people from the real issues.

I was at Occupy Wall Street in like 2011 and '12. There were many "radical leftists", but stuff like tumblr genders, the "everything is 'phobic" mentality etc. wasn't a thing or just evolving back then. There were many normal people who just were critical of big banks and wanted something to be done against the crisis.

That is the problem with Antifa. Everybody in the free world knows fascism is retarded, but Antifa isn't "everybody", it's just a small part of the very far-left with no guess what fascism really is, let's say it's just SJWs roleplaying as soldiers.

 

[TowinKarz]

OWS was the tipping point where the modern left became unrecoverable.... it was where intersectional IDPOL took over and any reform movement from the left became overrun with troons and ANTIFA and EVERY protest, regardless of original intent, became an SJW playground.

 

[Silence of the Troons]

The environmental activist group Extinction Rebellion (which has connections to antifa and the likes) organized a big protest in Malmö today. Amongst the protesters there were some funny looking lads in red:

 

[TowinKarz]

PETA used to be the oddball green movement, whose desire for spectacle and militancy marked them as unusual among their peers.

Now, they ALL do it, despite the fact nothing PETA does ever works because they have no plan except believing they can somehow shock or coerce you into compliance if they just offend you enough or threaten to brick your car.

Because success to greens isn't actual results, but how much name recognition they get. They've all followed the self-aggrandizing route, with their effectiveness at getting change falling in direct proportion to how fervent they make demands until we reach today where violence has become the goal, the original motivation totally forgotten in some cases.

And now, as ANTIFA shows, it's spreading to every left idea via intersectional thinking.

The left became what they swore to destroy, out-of-touch and unaccountable groups of people wielding power against the average person to detrimental effect.

 

[Der Reichsminister]

The environmental activist group Extinction Rebellion (which has connections to antifa and the likes)

Has any of these far left environmental groups ever talked about the overpopulation issue and its effect on the environment and where most of the population growth comes from? It sounds pretty stupid if you're reducing emissions while the total world population is marching towards 10 billion in this century. If you then factor in that all of the developing countries too are supposed to get the western lifestyle of consumerism I don't get how anyone believes the leftist environmentalism is anything but a farce.

 

[Jarolleon]

Has any of these far left environmental groups ever talked about the overpopulation issue and its effect on the environment and where most of the population growth comes from? It sounds pretty stupid if you're reducing emissions while the total world population is marching towards 10 billion in this century. If you then factor in that all of the developing countries too are supposed to get the western lifestyle of consumerism I don't get how anyone believes the leftist environmentalism is anything but a farce.

Unless they're actively trying to collapse the Western consumerist world in hopes that the rest of the world follows suit. Probably would be the effect of antifa getting what it wants.

 

[Der Reichsminister]

Probably would be the effect of antifa getting what it wants.

Oh absolutely it would be the effect. But that's not what they believe, they believe they can get a world where everybody is equal, prosperous and empowered. By throwing a communist revolution or some shit.

 

[TowinKarz]

Birth rates go way down in heavily developed western-style free market systems, but you have to build those, painfully, over time. You can't just have the first world pay to uplift the other 3/4ths of the globe, overnight. Which is what socialism tries do to.

Nor can you just shove that 3/4ths INTO developed first-world nations and NOT have them break down..... which is what globalism tried to do.

Capitalism is the only system that matures into a functioning society where live birth/infant mortality rates are sustainable without having to have 10 kids and there's enough productivity to CARE about things like clean water and preserving the environment. People too concerned with being able to eat dont' much care about cadmium mining runoff, you have to be assured you'll be ALIVE in 30 years to care about environmental issues with 30 year medians on the negative effects coming back at you. But the people themselves at the local level have to build it and learn how to maintain it themselves, they can't just hold out a hand and wish for it or be sold the lie that they're entitled to it.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

I was at Occupy Wall Street in like 2011 and '12. There were many "radical leftists", but stuff like tumblr genders, the "everything is 'phobic" mentality etc. wasn't a thing or just evolving back then. There were many normal people who just were critical of big banks and wanted something to be done against the crisis.

That is the problem with Antifa. Everybody in the free world knows fascism is exceptional, but Antifa isn't "everybody", it's just a small part of the very far-left with no guess what fascism really is, let's say it's just SJWs roleplaying as soldiers.

Where you one of the Anonymous people who were involved in OWS leadership that convinced them to be retarded on purpose?

 

[SmallTalk201]

Birth rates go way down in heavily developed western-style free market systems, but you have to build those, painfully, over time. You can't just have the first world pay to uplift the other 3/4ths of the globe, overnight. Which is what socialism tries do to.

Nor can you just shove that 3/4ths INTO developed first-world nations and NOT have them break down..... which is what globalism tried to do.

Capitalism is the only system that matures into a functioning society where live birth/infant mortality rates are sustainable without having to have 10 kids and there's enough productivity to CARE about things like clean water and preserving the environment. People too concerned with being able to eat dont' much care about cadmium mining runoff, you have to be assured you'll be ALIVE in 30 years to care about environmental issues with 30 year medians on the negative effects coming back at you. But the people themselves at the local level have to build it and learn how to maintain it themselves, they can't just hold out a hand and wish for it or be sold the lie that they're entitled to it.

Globalism is the consequence of capitalism.

Ows was destroyed by attention seekers and npcs. It seems if any one wants their activism be effective they need keep a low profile

 

[TowinKarz]

Globalism is the result of government over-regulating capitalism while also taking bribes to leave a privileged few in charge. Look how fast the stalled Obama Economy, which he said would never be better, got jump-started by simply slashing some of that control by cutting the taxes.

Crony capitalism is a bigger threat to capitalism than socialism. At least the socialist lays out what they demand of the factory managers publicly instead of doing it behind closed doors and then feigning ignorance of how those 5,000 illegals managed to get jobs at the poultry plant....

 

[AnOminous]

I was at Occupy Wall Street in like 2011 and '12.

So that was your fault.

You fucking duck fucker.

 

[SmallTalk201]

Globalism is the result of government over-regulating capitalism while also taking bribes to leave a privileged few in charge. Look how fast the stalled Obama Economy, which he said would never be better, got jump-started by simply slashing some of that control by cutting the taxes.

Crony capitalism is a bigger threat to capitalism than socialism. At least the socialist lays out what they demand of the factory managers publicly instead of doing it behind closed doors and then feigning ignorance of how those 5,000 illegals managed to get jobs at the poultry plant....

From what little I know of socialist thought crony capitalism is the natural outcome of capitalism. Monopolies who soon use wealth to subvert political systems and use them to oppress the workers

 

[Silence of the Troons]

Has any of these far left environmental groups ever talked about the overpopulation issue and its effect on the environment and where most of the population growth comes from? It sounds pretty stupid if you're reducing emissions while the total world population is marching towards 10 billion in this century. If you then factor in that all of the developing countries too are supposed to get the western lifestyle of consumerism I don't get how anyone believes the leftist environmentalism is anything but a farce.

A lot of the time, it's actually the complete opposite: environmental activists also tend to be campaigning for open borders and for more people to be allowed to come here because desire for any degree of border protection and wanting to control who gets to enter your country is but a form of racist cis sexist capitalist fascism. Somehow it hasn't crossed their mind that the more people migrate to a country with a high standard of living and the more the population increases, the more the amount of emissions is going to go up. In fact, Sweden's biggest newspaper has been heavily in favor of liberal immigration laws for years now – including because of reasons like "we need immigrants to boost the birth rate" – and yet they also constantly talk about climate change and have even published a few articles where they argue that we need to have fewer children in order to save the climate.

 

[Jarolleon]

A lot of the time, it's actually the complete opposite: environmental activists also tend to be campaigning for open borders and for more people to be allowed to come here because desire for any degree of border protection and wanting to control who gets to enter your country is but a form of racist cis sexist capitalist fascism. Somehow it hasn't crossed their mind that the more people migrate to a country with a high standard of living and the more the population increases, the more the amount of emissions is going to go up. In fact, Sweden's biggest newspaper has been heavily in favor of liberal immigration laws for years now – including because of reasons like "we need immigrants to boost the birth rate" – and yet they also constantly talk about climate change and have even published a few articles where they argue that we need to have fewer children in order to save the climate.

If you believe in magic soil, then once they set foot into a first world country their newly-acquired first world lifestyles will lower the birthrates, thereby helping the environment in the long run. It's bullshit because their native countries will keep the high birthrates due to brain drain and the drop in housing prices from all the emigrants selling their abodes.