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According to the HH interview with Erica, Texas is a mandatory reporting state, which includes constaff. That would mean that lots of these stories are saying they witnessed crimes related to Vic and then neglected to report it...while being mandated reporters.
 
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Is misrepresenting the situation not honestly a legitimate enough reason to excuse oneself from the case? I mean maybe at this point it is, but would that have been an option earlier?
Looks like incompetence is a legitimate reason for a lawyer to be withdrawn from a case. For anyone curious I'm posting the requirements needed for a lawyer to be withdrawn from a case, both mandatory withdraws and voluntary withdraws.

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And last, but not least, a bit about what it takes for a lawyer to get the court's approval to be excused from a case
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Here's the link, plus archive, if anyone wants to read more
 
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This is some kind of crazy. I think he is saying the "Vic wasn't recording so he wasn't technically hired."View attachment 907292

What they're saying is that the contract was only for performance, and they weren't planning on asking him to perform during the term of the contract anyway. Therefore, they may have just let the contract lapse, since it isn't like there was any obligation either way. Just because you publicly announce you don't intend to use a contractor doesn't mean you actually have to fire them. You just...don't call them anymore.

I don't know if it's true or not, but it's entirely possible, and pretty much leaves them legally bulletproof. At least on the contract.

Edit: Quite honestly, I'm not sure why people care so much about this. He had a contract that ended before they even started recording the next season of RWBY; as stated above, it's likely RT could state that they didn't intend to use him, so there aren't any actual damages incurred. So even if there was a breach of contract, it likely didn't cause damages.
 
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Looks like incompetence is a legitimate reason for a lawyer to be withdrawn from a case. For anyone curious I'm posting the requirements needed for a lawyer to be withdrawn from a case, both mandatory withdraws and voluntary withdraws.


And last, but not least, a bit about what it takes for a lawyer to get the court's approval to be excused from a case

Here's the link, plus archive, if anyone wants to read more
Incompetence is indeed a reason to withdraw, but... Willfully and knowingly misrepresenting things isn't incompetence. It's an ethics thing. It's actually possible for a lawyer to be disbarred for providing evidence of any kind when they know or should know the evidence is false, or they do not act to inform the court of the falsity as soon as they discover it to be false. Has Lemoine informed the court about certain false statements in the affidavits that he is most certainly aware of? Like certain statements that are in conflict with reality which he wanted to use as evidence of Vics behavior?

Luckily for him, I only know of one Texas lawyer that got disbarred for knowingly submitting perjury in the form of affidavits, and that guy had been doing it for years. Lemoine might get a warning though, if Ty or the court decides to submit an ethics complaint.
 
I don’t think Monty was dead when Vic got signed on. IIRC it was Monty himself that made the call to hire Vic. Vic was Monty’s dream VA for Crow.
As if Shane's letter (no, not that one) needed more validity that RoosterTeeth is shitting on Monty's passion project, if the statement is true
 
Incompetence is indeed a reason to withdraw, but... Willfully and knowingly misrepresenting things isn't incompetence. It's an ethics thing. It's actually possible for a lawyer to be disbarred for providing evidence of any kind when they know or should know the evidence is false, or they do not act to inform the court of the falsity as soon as they discover it to be false. Has Lemoine informed the court about certain false statements in the affidavits that he is most certainly aware of? Like certain statements that are in conflict with reality which he wanted to use as evidence of Vics behavior?

Luckily for him, I only know of one Texas lawyer that got disbarred for knowingly submitting perjury in the form of affidavits, and that guy had been doing it for years. Lemoine might get a warning though, if Ty or the court decides to submit an ethics complaint.
I was thinking more along the lines of Casey when it comes to incompetence, but I agree with you about Lemoine, what he's done absolutely is an ethics issue. To me, Lemoine misrepresenting events and presenting lies as evidence is straight up malicious. I think the most interesting part of all this will be seeing if anything comes of the shady, low down, bullshit he's pulled, if Ty or the Court so decides to file a complaint.
I'll be sorely disappointed if we don't get see Lemoine's feet held to the fire now that we know it's possible for a lawyer to get disbarred for pulling similar shenanigans.
 
What they're saying is that the contract was only for performance, and they weren't planning on asking him to perform during the term of the contract anyway. Therefore, they may have just let the contract lapse, since it isn't like there was any obligation either way. Just because you publicly announce you don't intend to use a contractor doesn't mean you actually have to fire them. You just...don't call them anymore.

I don't know if it's true or not, but it's entirely possible, and pretty much leaves them legally bulletproof. At least on the contract.
I think pretty much this. This is why FUNimation should have just kept their piehole closed. Because I'd bet all the contracts basically just say that they're paying the person to come in and record and if they just let things lapse and didn't use him moving forward there's no definitive proof of anything untoward, just speculation. But the fact that people had to virtue signal is what got them dragged into court. This is why you need to slap a muzzle on certain people moving forward no matter what happens in the court.
 
As if Shane's letter (no, not that one) needed more validity that RoosterTeeth is shitting on Monty's passion project, if the statement is true

Shane (Non-Shoeater) still was / probably is a assblasted guy who did worship Monty Oum quite too much as Garm pointed out, but he and Zuelch were pretty right about the "Highschool / Elitist Clique" shenanigans that Cuck Teeth engaged in similar to Failmation.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
 
Shane (Non-Shoeater) still was / probably is a assblasted guy who did worship Monty Oum quite too much as Garm pointed out, but he and Zuelch were pretty right about the "Highschool / Elitist Clique" shenanigans that Cuck Teeth engaged in similar to Failmation.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
You know, if the cliques could be identified, things would make a lot more sense. Only thing I've heard was that Arryn and Barbara are the ones pushing for the Blake/Yang shit in RWBY this past volume.
 
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