StoneToss (allegedly, formerly Red Panels)

[Doctor Placebo]

#3. He's drawn and made fun of Trump before.
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Geez those ones are unfunny. Definitely some of his lower tier work.

 

[Lemmingwise]

So you're saying don't be with someone who makes bad choices?

Of course.

Unless you have absolutely no other options, why would you choose someone who makes bad choices over someone who makes average or good choices?

We're not really even talking honest mistakes here, I explicitly chose some of the most dumbshit, obviously life ruining choices one can make and you're still out there defending them.

Looking forward to the next 30 pages where we back and forth about this.

 

[meinhausinneuberlin]

Geez those ones are unfunny. Definitely some of his lower tier work.

Not everything the guy produces are winners especially recently. But they aren't god awful either this more mediocre stuff makes more sense when you realize that stone doesn't draw comics on random topics but instead tries to follow current "discussion" by a few days. Currently the "alt-right" is pretty directionless and quiet so he has less to go on.

 

[meinhausinneuberlin]

Honestly other than the overzealous Wehrabooism, I find these comics innoffensive and chuckleworthy.

I have seen no worshipping of tiger or panther tanks so I wouldn't classify stone as a wehraboo



From my earlier post this comic was posted a little more than a week after than the whole andy ngo stuff. Stone follows common trends probably because it is effective to do so.

 

[redcent]

Of course.

Unless you have absolutely no other options, why would you choose someone who makes bad choices over someone who makes average or good choices?

We're not really even talking honest mistakes here, I explicitly chose some of the most dumbshit, obviously life ruining choices one can make and you're still out there defending them.

Looking forward to the next 30 pages where we back and forth about this.

There are guys who do stupid things-

eg. #1 a guy (or girl) who sticks his/ her finger in an industrial fan thinking he's as fast as superman and loses said finger. A bad choice? It was his/her fault, you don't fuck with a machine. It was careless. That said, guys who make dumb stunts like that are a dime a dozen. They happen more often than you think, at least in my experience. I might lecture them on carelessness but I'm not going to be that critical whether I'm goin go to be with one or not. And if such a person really is the one? Not going to be a deal breaker. Same with the next two;

eg. #2 A guy (or girl) who gets scammed. Not his / her fault, as the scammer is not a machine or an animal or anything aside from someone who should be a decent person. Scamming victims also are a dime a dozen, also happen a lot in my experience. This isn't caused by someone taking a risk, it's caused by evil people who manipulate others. Can't even start to be critical of them, whether I decide to be with one or not.

eg. #3 A guy (or girl who) gets raped. Not his/her fault, the rapist is not a machine or an animal and once again nothing aside from someone who should be a decent human who should know to keep his or her gonads to themselves. There is no "asking for it", there is no "they should not be doing X" because everyone is entitled to an abuse free environment. Can't even start to be critical of them, whether I decide to be with one or not.


And this is not taking to account if I want to be with someone. If I do, I'd value someone more than whether they got scammed into a debt or not, whether they got taken advantage of or not, or whether they lost a finger. There's more to a person's character than one instance of misplaced trust or moment of recklessness, and that character I may or may not fall in love with (or vice versa). Neither of the above three are the biggest forms of "dumbshit" out there. And like I said, you get older, expect people to have had their bumps along the way of life.

If you want a really nice example of dumb shit that would be a deal breaker, you should use the example of the guy who does rape an unconscious woman. Or a guy who has scammed someone out of their life savings or whatever. That is the biggest dumbshit. Or better yet, anyone who goes ahead and defends them.

 

[meinhausinneuberlin]

There are guys who do stupid things-

eg. #1 a guy (or girl) who sticks his/ her finger in an industrial fan thinking he's as fast as superman and loses said finger. A bad choice? It was his/her fault, you don't fuck with a machine. It was careless. That said, guys who make dumb stunts like that are a dime a dozen. They happen more often than you think, at least in my experience. I might lecture them on carelessness but I'm not going to be that critical whether I'm goin go to be with one or not. And if such a person really is the one? Not going to be a deal breaker. Same with the next two;

eg. #2 A guy (or girl) who gets scammed. Not his / her fault, as the scammer is not a machine or an animal or anything aside from someone who should be a decent person. Scamming victims also are a dime a dozen, also happen a lot in my experience. This isn't caused by someone taking a risk, it's caused by evil people who manipulate others. Can't even start to be critical of them, whether I decide to be with one or not.

eg. #3 A guy (or girl who) gets raped. Not his/her fault, the rapist is not a machine or an animal and once again nothing aside from someone who should be a decent human who should know to keep his or her gonads to themselves. There is no "asking for it", there is no "they should not be doing X" because everyone is entitled to an abuse free environment. Can't even start to be critical of them, whether I decide to be with one or not.


And this is not taking to account if I want to be with someone. If I do, I'd value someone more than whether they got scammed into a debt or not, whether they got taken advantage of or not, or whether they lost a finger. There's more to a person's character than one instance of misplaced trust or moment of recklessness, and that character I may or may not fall in love with (or vice versa). Neither of the above three are the biggest forms of "dumbshit" out there. And like I said, you get older, expect people to have had their bumps along the way of life.

If you want a really nice example of dumb shit that would be a deal breaker, you should use the example of the guy who does rape an unconscious woman. Or a guy who has scammed someone out of their life savings or whatever. That is the biggest dumbshit. Or better yet, anyone who goes ahead and defends them.

Well ive found a cheap building material for trumps wall
The wall of text from your conversation

 

[AnOminous]

eg. #2 A guy (or girl) who gets scammed. Not his / her fault, as the scammer is not a machine or an animal or anything aside from someone who should be a decent person. Scamming victims also are a dime a dozen, also happen a lot in my experience. This isn't caused by someone taking a risk, it's caused by evil people who manipulate others. Can't even start to be critical of them, whether I decide to be with one or not.

Most of the classic scams, like the Nigerian prince scam, Spanish prisoner, pigeon drop, etc. involve getting the victim to participate in what he believes to be a criminal scheme to defraud a third person (usually a confederate of the first or entirely fictional) of money. For instance, the Nigerian prince scam involves agreeing to accept stolen money from some imaginary person.

They say you can't con an honest man for good reason.

Sure they're often aimed at elderly people or dumb people or mentally ill people who can't be fully held responsible but there's often good cause to blame the victim when they participate in their own swindling by agreeing to rip off someone else, even if the someone else doesn't exist.

 

[redcent]

Most of the classic scams, like the Nigerian prince scam, Spanish prisoner, pigeon drop, etc. involve getting the victim to participate in what he believes to be a criminal scheme to defraud a third person (usually a confederate of the first or entirely fictional) of money. For instance, the Nigerian prince scam involves agreeing to accept stolen money from some imaginary person.

They say you can't con an honest man for good reason.

Sure they're often aimed at elderly people or dumb people or mentally ill people who can't be fully held responsible but there's often good cause to blame the victim when they participate in their own swindling by agreeing to rip off someone else, even if the someone else doesn't exist.

What about other scams, like a "telephone company" calling someone to do X, or someone posing as a customer getting you to click on some dodgy link, and so on?

Cause I generally take the label "Nigerian prince " scams to be the general example of most scams altogether.

Well ive found a cheap building material for trumps wall
The wall of text from your conversation

Because God knows America can't afford any kind of wall.

 

[AnOminous]

What about other scams, like a "telephone company" calling someone to do X, or someone posing as a customer getting you to click on some dodgy link, and so on?

Those are more like social engineering than a long con. You can get someone's bank info and temporarily inconvenience them but the bank generally eats the actual loss. In a long con someone can lose their entire life savings by continuing to participate.

Most of the victims of those can't really be blamed.

But just saying "blame the victim" in general is always wrong is itself wrong. Sometimes the victim is a dick and had it coming.

 

[Lemmingwise]

There is no "asking for it", there is no "they should not be doing X" because everyone is entitled to an abuse free environment

Ha ha, I've had a good laugh, thanks for that.

Imagine being that entitled.

 

[redcent]

Those are more like social engineering than a long con. You can get someone's bank info and temporarily inconvenience them but the bank generally eats the actual loss. In a long con someone can lose their entire life savings by continuing to participate.

Most of the victims of those can't really be blamed.

But just saying "blame the victim" in general is always wrong is itself wrong. Sometimes the victim is a dick and had it coming.

If they were knowingly and willingly participating in something illegal



But with rape though?


Saying "they had it coming" is a hard stance to take.

 

[Lemmingwise]

And like I said, you get older, expect people to have had their bumps along the way of life

I think it's obvious that this is advice for people up to their late twenties who are looking for a partner to build a life with and have kids with, not advice for the elderly and which granny to shack up with. Yes, at that point it doesn't really matter anymore because it's always easy to move on, but things are different investment levelwise when you share a 3-yearold kid that you're responsible for.

And imagine having a partner that tries to instill in kids to not protect themselves because they should always be entitled that every stranger can be trusted.

 

[redcent]

I think it's obvious that this is advice for people up to their late twenties who are looking for a partner to build a life with and have kids with, not advice for the elderly and which granny to shack up with. Yes, at that point it doesn't really matter anymore because it's always easy to move on, but things are different investment levelwise when you share a 3-yearold kid that you're responsible for.

And imagine having a partner that tries to instill in kids to not protect themselves because they should always be entitled that every stranger can be trusted.

I'm very sorry, I forget, I'm likely talking with someone from a different country who's streets are so crime riddled you're too scared to walk alone at night, heaven forbid if you fall unconscious for any reason among strangers and that no-one will ever help out and everyone else is entitled to be a dick.

I forget dosing people with fear and paranoia and self-blame is part of some people's culture. What a lovely world you live in.

 

[Lemmingwise]

I'm very sorry, I forget, I'm likely talking with someone from a different country who's streets are so crime riddled you're too scared to walk alone at night, heaven forbid if you fall unconscious for any reason among strangers and that no-one will ever help out and everyone else is entitled to be a dick.

I forget dosing people with fear and paranoia and self-blame is part of some people's culture. What a lovely world you live in.

Netherlands is probably safer than your country, but nice attempt at a gotcha.

It really isn't paranoia to decide to not go to a hotelroom and take drugs with a known sex offender. It's just common sense.

Besides, if you are accurate in assessing a situation as safe, then you have good judgement and you don't get raped/scammed.

 

[redcent]

Netherlands is probably safer than your country, but nice attempt at a gotcha.

It really isn't paranoia to decide to not go to a hotelroom and take drugs with a known sex offender. It's just common sense.

Besides, if you are accurate in assessing a situation as safe, then you have good judgement and you don't get raped/scammed.

Drugs now? I thought it was getting drunk in some random hotel no known sex offender involved

Or are we shifting the goalpost now?

 

[Lemmingwise]

Drugs now? I thought it was getting drunk in some random hotel no known sex offender involved

Or are we shifting the goalpost now?

Ha ha, thanks for playing. I'm not shifting anything. Is there any worth mentioning cognitive difference between being shitfaced drunk or drugged?

 

[Based Papa John]

Some of his fans are ethnonationalist wannabes, who were upset and SHOCKED that the New Yorker with a Jewish stepson was cool with Jews. After Trump called Jerusalem the capitol of Israel, they don't like him anymore and making fun of him is fair game. Stonetoss also strikes me as the type of right winger who, like Metokur, thinks that the wall was a campaign lie despite all evidence that a wall is being built.

The internet right tends to believe the MSM, for all their whining about it. They actually believed that Trump was alt-right just because the MSM said he was. It also helped that Trump did/does trigger Ben Shapiro. They also believe that the slowness of the wall was Trump's fault rather than having an interest entrenched congress or something called "the law" preventing him from getting started sooner.

As for Metokur, he's great on the humor, meh on the political commentary. He should stick to furfags.

It's just meant to be applicable to any president. Typically unless he's specifically criticizing a president, he'll draw the face. The attention to detail is okay, at least. I like how he conveyed the president turning around using nothing but body language and the lower torso.

The joke is alright, too, it doesn't go at lengths to explain itself. And despite "Jews run the world" being a pretty stock opinion, it's still pretty edgy compared to vanilla politics. Overall I'd say it's thoroughly okay.

The (((JQ))) is pretty much a basic-bitch opinion by internet standards, and has been for years. Bring up the USS Liberty and the number of Jews on the Fed board? I hope you don't cut yourself on that edge.

 

[AnOminous]

The internet right tends to believe the MSM, for all their whining about it. They actually believed that Trump was alt-right just because the MSM said he was. It also helped that Trump did/does trigger Ben Shapiro. They also believe that the slowness of the wall was Trump's fault rather than having an interest entrenched congress or something called "the law" preventing him from getting started sooner.

If you're elected President you're going to be judged on how much of your agenda you get accomplished no matter why you can or can't. If Trump hadn't dumbly insisted on a literal wall, which doesn't even make sense for most of the border, he'd have been able to shift into just increasing border security.

Ironically, the Obama Administration before him built more actual wall than Trump has, and so did the Bush Administration before Obama. Most of where it would make sense to have a literal wall already has one.

 

[redcent]

Ha ha, thanks for playing. I'm not shifting anything. Is there any worth mentioning cognitive difference between being shitfaced drunk or drugged?

One is in most places legal to do (so long as you don't drive), the other involves illicit drugs which are illegal. Most people have been drunk at some point in their lives. The other is the kind of person I would avoid as drug takers can be dangerous (although that's my personal caution, some people can handle drug addicts, some can't)

Although if you're referring to any situation which someone takes something that can render them unconscious or incapable of fighting, whether knowingly or not, this is not free reign for a rapist to do what he or she wants. AFAIK there is no law protecting rapists in the case of someone being unconscious, no matter what the location. Nor do I see any reason for that to be ok, since being unconscious, whether aided by a drink or drug or not, is something we all have to put up with each and every night. And though we try not to do so around strangers, in some cases that just can't be helped.

 

[Based Papa John]

If you're elected President you're going to be judged on how much of your agenda you get accomplished no matter why you can or can't. If Trump hadn't dumbly insisted on a literal wall, which doesn't even make sense for most of the border, he'd have been able to shift into just increasing border security.

I am not commenting on the technical or logistical feasibility of a wall, but rather the political atmosphere that Trump is operating in. He hasn't pulled a Bush Sr. (read my lips), nor has he flipped on it. Trump has worked towards getting the wall, and has not abandoned that. The problem is that the online right tends to think that Trump has cucked out or failed when we're not even finished with his first term. If Trump fails to get a wall, then he deserves the criticism for it. It's just that online right gets way to spastic if what they want doesn't happen fast enough for them.