Inactive Nick Bate / Nickalaus B. Stoutzenberger (Thread 1)

[AnOminous]

I think you bring up some very good points here that we may have rushed off and forgot. I won't dwell on it but that one detail in particular about hygiene is something I never considered because I was too horrified by the story.

I think anyone who has the obsessive fantasies Nick clearly does and lacks impulse control should be presumed to be a danger to the class of victim they prefer.

Nick's lack of impulse control is pretty much advertised by his obliviousness and willingness to broadcast utterly horrific things about himself in public under his own name. I would actually be surprised if he didn't act on his claimed desires if he had the opportunity and the victim.

 

[CalmMyTits]

He doesn't think it's wrong, but he's fully aware of the fact that it's illegal. That's motivation enough to say he didn't do anything if he thinks the police are involved.

This is one thing that really disturbs me about Nick. A sociopath knows that certain things such as torture, murder, animal abuse/cruelty are illegal, but they don't agree with the legal status of such. They might understand WHY it's illegal, but think themselves above this and/or just don't give a fuck because their sense of morality is fucked.

If I recall correctly from the psych report, Nick doesn't understand WHY child molestation is illegal. That is a huge red flag there. The fact that Nick sees child molestation as awwright, that he dismisses the negative impact this has on children, etc, shows us that he is really fucked in the mind.

Most pedophiles understand WHY it's illegal. Many manage to control their urges for their whole lives, and never actually become child molesters, because while they may feel sexually attracted to children, they don't want to harm children because they understand its impact, and manage to keep their sexual urges in the realm of fantasy.

And even if a pedophile can't (or won't) control their urges, they're at least smart enough to keep it hidden because they are aware of the huge repercussions of their actions. Nick really is a special (and disgusting) kind of stupid.

 

[Mister Lister]

Sorry in advance for the long post. Some quotes from Nick's psych evaluation for anyone who hasn't seen it or doesn't have the time to sift through:

"He reported that his mother and step-father will not allow him to come to their house although Nick reported that he does not know what prompted that decision. When he inquired about this to his step-father, Nick indicated that his step-father said, "You know why.""

"He is unable to accept consequences for his inappropriate actions, and repeatedly states, 'I didn't do anything.'"

"He enjoys pornography that involved feces and he reported that he frequently fantasizes about having anal sex, consensually and forcibly with females."

"He also reported that his sexual fantasies include young girls who "can talk in full sentences and are house-trained, but not yet like real women." He denied that he has ever approached or had any sexual contact with a minor. He admitted that he tried to find female child pornography online in the past, but he was reportedly unsuccessful. When this evaluator told him that this type of activity is illegal, he indicated that he did not understand why that would be."

Bolding mine for emphasis. This still doesn't shed light on if he actually did it or not, but it does suggest that we shouldn't be so quick to dismiss it as just another one of those dumb things he says. I would honestly be more surprised at this point if he didn't do it.

I mean, for example, I could understand Amber making this up if she was a horrible little child who wanted Nick locked up because she hated him. If they lived in the same house, got under each others skin all day every day, competed for attention with their parents, constantly fought, broke each others stuff, were hateful to each other etc. etc.

But there's the thing; they don't. They don't live in the same house, they don't interact with each other, and Amber doesn't really have a reason to want Nick spitefully jailed. So unless there is stuff going on in the background that we don't know about, I'm not sure why she would fabricate these accusations.

Bear this in mind though: Nick is a person terrified of interaction with the outside world, has never and will never have any form of sexual interaction, is an unashamed pedophile who doesn't see why it is wrong, is unable to understand or accept consequences for his actions, and was at some point left alone with a young child.

Yikes.

 

[Meeko]

Reality check: You are actually analyzing and sperging over the bathroom habits of a child's asshole. Just let that sink in. I think it's time you get off the internet and reevaluate your life.

I'd like to say that this is just sperging, but I actually work in a health care setting where we deal with children that have been sexually abused or are just plain depressed and this does happen (that children do not clean themselves for the various reasons I listed). There are a lot of reasons that something like that can happen. I was just elaborating on said reasons because I don't want someone to automatically assume that it didn't happen because they assume that every child will perform basic cleanliness.

I'll drop the subject, but my whole point in stating the different reasons for this is just that like I said- I didn't want anyone to automatically discard the story because of that when it's actually sadly far more common than you'd think. If you're going to discard it as false, do it because pedophiles like Nick tend to make up fantasies for themselves or something like that.

 

[Pine Tar]

Nick Bate makes me think that capital punishment ought to be an option for people who sexually abuse people.

 

[Fredegunde]

I think Nick's views on child abuse are similar to your typical stoners' views on marijuana use - they understand that it's illegal and have a rough idea of the legal consequences of its use. But they think the laws that make it illegal are silly, arbitrary and unnecessary. So, they think it's illegal, but not wrong.

This is pretty much exactly what I was going to say. We all understand that molestation would be wrong even if it weren't illegal because it harms the victim. But I don't think Nick understands that it's harmful. I'm sure all pedophiles have a way to rationalize what they do, but I don't think Nick is rationalizing; he seems to genuinely not understand that it is harmful. He doesn't perceive himself as having hurt anyone. I mean, he doesn't understand why Anna doesn't like him stalking her, even though she's explained it quite clearly, so I doubt he gets this either.

Like, I understand that that doesn't change his legal culpability at all. (And really it shouldn't.) But I do think he sees it as something that was made illegal because the state is overly restrictive, not because it harms someone.

 

[Batman VS Tony Danza]

Nick seems like the type who would deny having molested a child because he believes he's avoided some technicality or line that has to be crossed. Nick thinks that if he coerced a child without using physical violence then he's in the clear. He seems to demonstrate that belief when he was willing to share what he did with his niece. He didn't seem to think it was wrong because he wasn't actively forcing her, ignoring how that doesn't make the situation any less fucked up or illegal.

 

[Lefty's Revenge]

I mean, for example, I could understand Amber making this up if she was a horrible little child who wanted Nick locked up because she hated him. If they lived in the same house, got under each others skin all day every day, competed for attention with their parents, constantly fought, broke each others stuff, were hateful to each other etc. etc.

But there's the thing; they don't. They don't live in the same house, they don't interact with each other, and Amber doesn't really have a reason to want Nick spitefully jailed. So unless there is stuff going on in the background that we don't know about, I'm not sure why she would fabricate these accusations.

Bear this in mind though: Nick is a person terrified of interaction with the outside world, has never and will never have any form of sexual interaction, is an unashamed pedophile who doesn't see why it is wrong, is unable to understand or accept consequences for his actions, and was at some point left alone with a young child.

Yikes.

It would have been obnoxious of you to bold all of this so I'll be a dick for you.

Yeah, excellent points on both sides, but I feel like this is the final nail in the coffin for me. Theres a possibility Amber is doing this out of spite but I don't see it as terribly likely. I'm convinced he did something to her,

The only thing I'm grappling with now is Nate's mental state. When I view Nate as simply a screaming shitting moron who doesn't understand the ramifications of his actions part of me feels sorry for him, in spite of myself.

But I read the stuff he says on twitter, watch him bang on a guitar and say he wants to rape children in the ass, or read that in his psych evaluation he said he'd like to fuck girls in the ass against their will and I can't shake this feeling that I'm watching someone who, while batshit insane, does realize on some level the impact of what they're saying and at times is almost jeering at the rest of the world.

 

[Danger]

But I read the stuff he says on twitter, watch him bang on a guitar and say he wants to rape children in the ass, or read that in his psych evaluation he said he'd like to fuck girls in the ass against their will and I can't shake this feeling that I'm watching someone who, while batshit insane, does realize on some level the impact of what they're saying and at times is almost jeering at the rest of the world.

I've been following Nick for awhile now and talked to him on twitter a few time. I've never thought he doesn't completely lack any understanding of why what he says is shocking. Maybe he doesn't get why he shouldn't say these things, or grasp the consequences, but he knows what he says is shocking. I think some stuff he says just to sound stupid or edgy because that's his internet persona. But with this molestation thing I don't think anyone should be surprised that Nick is exactly what he's always told everyone he is.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

 

[Mister Lister]

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I wonder if that post about him doing volunteer work with cats was complete bullshit then. A sort of 'Look I'm a nice person, i help cats!'. How would he ever even get work like that, when he is petrified of the outside world, let alone actually go and do it?

 

[meatslab]

I don't really care if Nick understands what he thinks/does is wrong or not. I think hes he's too broken to even fix at this point, assuming he isn't just playing dumb. Either way, all that matters is Amber's well being.

 

[DrChristianTroy]

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He could try not being a creepy weirdo.

 

[Coldgrip]

He could try not being a creepy weirdo.

Suicide is also a good option.

 

[Bluce Wee]

He could try not being a creepy weirdo.

Does he even realize that what he does, what he talks about, the way he acts is creepy and weird?

 

[ManicPixieDreamGirl]

I wonder if that post about him doing volunteer work with cats was complete bullshit then. A sort of 'Look I'm a nice person, i help cats!'. How would he ever even get work like that, when he is petrified of the outside world, let alone actually go and do it?

I don't know, but the fact is that there's an entire world out there for him to roam. AND I found out that he's been living in the same town as my loved ones abroad. That feeling you get when you realize that your loved ones stand an actual chance of running into Nick Bate... They messaged me the night before, so I think I freaked them out when I responded with autistic concern while trying to actually explain the existence of Nick Bate. Think about it: what if he had to get a job, started working with someone whom I know, and then started smearing shit all over the place? Unless he's in prison, he's still a danger to everyone.

I don't really care if Nick understands what he thinks/does is wrong or not. I think hes he's too broken to even fix at this point, assuming he isn't just playing dumb. Either way, all that matters is Amber's well being.

I really hope that Amber knows that everyone is actually on her side despite her deplorable relatives who conspire to cover up the whole thing. Being under the constant supervision of shitty adults can really warp anyone's mind, let alone a young and developing brain. Honestly, I hope that she calls the entire family out on their bullshit. I really hope that this leads to SOME significant development and that they have an open lulz-bar for the Internet when the steamy justice is finally getting served in Amber's favor. Because, quite frankly, this shit is now very grim.

 

[Shovel Mick]

This question goes out to Anna. Do you have any regrets about how you handled Nicks confession about what he did with his sister?

 

[TL 611]

^the Anna in the chat log is not THE Anna (Arcani) IIRC.

 

[Mrs Paul]

Is it a-logging to say this guy is a terrible, terrible person who should rot in hell forever?

 

[Meowthkip]

Is it a-logging to say this guy is a terrible, terrible person who should rot in hell forever?

It is impossible to A-Log Nick.