Horrorcow Zoe Quinn / Chelsea Van Valkenburg / Locke Valentine / @UnburntWitch / @Primeape / CrashOverride / Hat Box / Old Uncle Anime - Con Artist, Abuser, Sexual Harasser, Drove Alec Holowka to Suicide.

Henk Hill said:
What exactly happened to him again? He just lost his shit one day, refused to make Fez 2, and that's it for his career, or did I miss something?
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He couldn't make fez 2, because he didn't make fez, just did the art and then stole the project and pawned it off as his own. That's why he's in a documentary talking how absolutely revolutionary his pixel art is and why it was the key to success for fez.

He also pretended to be hacked or something as excuse to not make fez 2
 
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Feline Darkmage said:
Yeah but that's different. MeToo killed Jeffrey Epstein, who is a convicted child sex trafficker, who never tried to change his ways. So Epstein kind of deserved it tbh.
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That wasn't #metoo killing him, that was an unknown group of conspirators who most likely wanted to silence him before he could testify.
 
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Apoth42 said:
And people like Projared and Alec Holowka are/were male feminists that would have otherwise enabled #metoo to destroy people other than themselves.

In some way these people were all victimized by the circumstances that they created.
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Such is life, one of its most ironic twists. We create the environment that will eventually turn its back on us.
 
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Tasty Tatty said:
Kinda OT, but worth mentioning to realise that these kind of movements barely get contained in one country and then expand to others where there are even less laws to protect the falsely-accused and more misinformation.

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The first #MeToo suicide was Agustin Munoz.
He was a teenager in Argentina who went to a #MeToo march with his girlfriend in order to protest for women's rights. A part of the march was a moment where women got to write the names of people who had raped them and the names would be led aloud at one point so everyone would know who was a rapist and they could be publicly shamed.
He heard his name called and started having a panic attack. He ran home. Eventually he found out his girlfriend put his name on there. He got really fucking mad and asked why she would do that. She "just wanted to be a part of the excitement" and thought he was "making a big deal out of nothing important." He became socially withdrawn and killed himself.

His mother said afterwards that she did not blame the girl, because in the culture of #MeToo that Munoz and now Holowka belonged to, there is no such thing as a support structure. Once you are named, nobody is your friend. They will all abandon you. They will side with the accusers. They will forget years of friendship and loyalty. They will watch you die. And they will not care because they love the cause more. Just like how Alec's sister's first act as her brother's body cools is to defend Zoe Quinn.

Anthony Bourdain was a side-victim of metoo, too.
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Men are now statistically much less likely to save women with CPR because of #metoo so tack that on as well.
 
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Well congratulations Zoe, you finally got to be the Judge, Jury and Executioner.
You took a Mans life and you'll pay nothing for it, you'll just get more asspats because of how brave you are.
I assure you her apology will be something among the lines of this,
"I am heartbroken to hear that Alec has taken his Life, while he abused me mentally, physically and sexually, we must remind ourselves that he was a brother and friend to those around him.
I never asked for him to die, I just wanted to show everyone that even those who seem perfect, can still be evil malicious people, and this is prominent in the Gaming Industry.
I send my Thoughts and Prayers to Alec's family."

This just cements my opinion that ultimately, the Internet was a mistake.
 
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FlamingPie said:
The real kicker is that even if he did try to work towards forgiveness - regardless of whether or not he was a creeper - they'd still find some reason to complain.
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HE DID! I posted a while back with a screenshot showing that in Zoe Quinn's initial post about the accusations, he has reached
out for forgiveness and she has accepted it. They had moved on. But, because the dude got more popular in the indie community, Zoe got jealous and envious, deciding to publish a post on him, 'exposing' him even after he after he had apologized and grown from it. You know, to 'start a conversation,' and warn people, whatever the hell that means.
EDIT: I misread shit, she actually forgave someone else who was background for the story in the post. I don't think she actually forgave Alec. Dammit, my bad.
See this post for her full post on Alec.
So yes, he did harm people maybe even zoe, but those claims which may exaggerated by Quinn in her post (as typically does).
Notice, Zoe never went to call the police or anything, during the initial incident, and forgiving him should have made them move on. What an absolute despicable way of handeling this.
 
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PigPuncher retweeted this so he may say something as dumb as this.

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Edit: wrong pic
 
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TJ-Weber said:
HE DID! I posted a while back with a screenshot showing that in Zoe Quinn's initial post about the accusations, he has reached
out for forgiveness and she has accepted it. They had moved on. But, because the dude got more popular in the indie community, Zoe got jealous and envious, deciding to publish a post on him, 'exposing' him even after he after he had apologized and grown from it. You know, to 'start a conversation,' and warn people, whatever the hell that means.
So yes, he did harm people maybe even zoe, but those claims which may exaggerated by Quinn in her post (as typically does).
Notice, Zoe never went to call the police or anything, during the initial incident, and forgiving him should have made them move on. What an absolute despicable way of handeling this.
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I often joke to my roommate and creative partner that ten years from now I'll metoo him.

I think I'm going to stop making that joke after today.
 
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PlasticOwls said:
So, just so Im caught up.

1. It's the 5 year anniversary of the #gamergate movement.

2. Zoe Quinn is losing patreon money and can't make a promising update with her second only game, some Chuck Tingle cash grab.

3. She conveniently 'gets off her chest' big rape allegations against an established indie developer, all while most of them are at PAX West.

4. She never gives concrete proof, didn't go to the police (despite no statues of limitation on rape in Canada), and just dumps everything on Twitter.

5. All of the developer's friends and family just agree he's always been a piece of shit, dump his ass on the proverbial street without a second thought.

6. Guy, Alec Horowitz, kills himself even though Zoe claims she never wanted any harm on his wellbeing.

7. Zoe and her minions run away from accepting responsibility, probably to only reinstate their means of income (Twitter).

Just so Im clear: Zoe only just made one shitty text game? A game that only got applause because she fucked 6 dudes for good publicity? Is her entire existence really centered around being a martyr for the last 5 years, doing nothing else? Why the fuck is she a games developer?
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It’s actually even worse than that.

Zoe didn’t claim rape or sexual abuse!

She basically just accused him of being a shitty, controlling boyfriend for two weeks, and of yelling at her. Eleven years ago.

I just read her tweets, and it’s a little bit confusing since she also writes about some unrelated sexual abuse.

But her accusation is basically: “We lived together for two weeks over a decade ago. He yelled at me and was controlling!”


The craziest thing is, that half the people talking about it, assume that it was some sexual abuse, which isn’t even the case.
 
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Zoe Quinn coming back after she got some guy killed? Fat chance! At least in GamerGate nobody got killed on her behave. This is different. She got someone killed. There’s blood in her hands. Meaning the people that used to hangout with will have their Careers ruined because you don’t wanna be known as a murder Sympathizer. Her deleting her twitter account means she will kill herself in response to his suicide. There’s no butts about it. Sad thing about it even if she did succeed in killing herself. People will still lie about how she’s a sweet angel or some crap like that so get ready folks for the SJW cringe train to begin.
 
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LMR365 said:
Zoe Quinn coming back after she got some guy killed? Fat chance! At least in GamerGate nobody got killed on her behave. This is different. She got someone killed. There’s blood in her hands. Meaning the people that used to hangout with will have their Careers ruined because you don’t wanna be known as a murder Sympathizer. Her deleting her twitter account means she will kill herself in response to his suicide. There’s no butts about it. Sad thing about it even if she did succeed in killing herself. People will still lie about how she’s a sweet angel or some crap like that so get ready folks for the SJW cringe train to begin.
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Zoe killing herself?

I wish I had your :optimistic:
 
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TexOffender said:
She isn't even in the game industry, she just tries hard to be associated with it.
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Hehe... That’s actually also in the tweets. She flat out talks about having a guy program the game for her.

It seems that Zoe Quinn’s idea of game developing is to come up with “cool ideas” and tell the people actually doing the programming where the different icons should go, lol! A
 
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