Horrorcow Zoe Quinn / Chelsea Van Valkenburg / Locke Valentine / @UnburntWitch / @Primeape / CrashOverride / Hat Box / Old Uncle Anime - Con Artist, Abuser, Sexual Harasser, Drove Alec Holowka to Suicide.

[Toilet Man]

unfortunately, women have proven this situation is not comparable and will continue to date and fuck their abusers so often that it's not even up for debate, you just have to accept that this probably is the case and that somehow it's not her fault because something-something Stockholm, something-something emotional creatures. Sorry to offend on this matter lady kiwis, no insult meant but it is what it is.

Yeah I agree, it is what it is. My male brain will never understand it, I'd rather be homeless than get abused in my own house on a consistent basis. I'd be more willing to understand Zoe (if true) if she had kids and was trying to make the best of a bad situation, but she's a catlady game developer, none of her friends have a couch? Can't afford to go to a shelter?

Am I exceptional for expecting self-empowerment from someone in the female empowerment movement?

 

[Doctor Placebo]

Fuck that. Scott's post and all the allegations at best hint that Alec was anti-social and a jerk who hurt women's feelings more than anything. On top of that, Quinn specifically said they had made peace on the issue, but that she just felt pure dread hearing people applaud Alec's work. Feeling bad over someone's success is narcissism, pure and simple. She wanted to punch him down a peg while pretending she really cared about his well-being.

If you don't point the finger back at the people who keep this degenerate feels-before-reals culture going as they plow over everyone without a hint of remorse, then it'll keep happening. There are plenty of instances where business partners and friends took this shit private, informed the person acting anti-social that they need to change, put out a press release that someone's taking time off or is simply leaving the project due to personal issues. If you want to press charges, you press charges. The shit Alec was accused of wasn't something that could be proven, as per Scott's own words in the backer update.

These people aren't capable of understanding the ramifications of the allegations, they just care about their own petty skin. If you don't put a foot down and straight up tell these people that they're dealing with human lives with their 4D Social Chess bullshit, then Alec is going to be just a statistic. One can make the argument that Quinn was trying to do significant harm, and the result was death. Just because you punch someone without meaning to kill them doesn't mean you don't get charged with manslaughter when they hit the concrete. Yes, it's feels before reals to say Quinn's words hurt a person, but that's the rule set they invented and are now refusing to abide by. The feels don't count when they're the ones who hurt them.

But that's just all optimism on my part. We all know she's not going to face any consequences for this. The next person won't be any different. Another person will die because they are dropped from on high, and the feels-crowd will laugh again. But we'll never be allowed to say they cause this shit deliberately because they "totally didn't mean to hurt someone by blowing their personal life wide open, teehee <3."

I guarantee you that when Zoe comes back, she will post something along the lines of "I am so sorry that this happened, I've just been crying the whole time, and anyone who's mad at Alec should be ashamed of themselves! I'm so sorry Alec, I forgive you, please rest in peace" and her followers will call her a fucking saint for that. Scott will eat the brunt of this shit show because he's the only male that anyone can point at, even though he was only doing exactly what the feminist women wanted him to do.

As far as the whole feels-before-reals thing, does that really still apply when the dev team you work with decides to give you the boot (yeah it was "like a band breaking up" in the sense that all the other members told the bass player he had to leave) and all the friends in your social circle turn on you? Because that seems pretty real.

That's the big distinction to me that these SJW types seem fundamentally mentally incapable of understanding for some reason. Someone calling you a bloated whore on the internet might hurt, especially if deep down you feel like it's true, but just turn off the computer, close your eyes and walk away nigga. It's not real. It's not significant. Someone tanking your career or assaulting you or doing some other serious real life shit though, that's something you can't walk away from. You gotta carry and deal with that experience until you overcome it. That's real shit.

 

[CamelCursive]

I mean, at this point- is there any reason why an adult woman over the age of 20 would be confused about the course of action when someone rapes you?

I mean, as much shit as Zoe talks about violently attacking (and killing?) sexual predators, you'd think they'd at least have a few general options once someone sexually assaulted them.

I mean, if I'm gonna sit here and talk about killing someone for hurting my children- I don't think I'll be routinely loading them in the car and dropping them off with Uncle Rapey and sitting on the couch with a newspaper while he diddles them senseless. That just doesn't make any fucking sense.

Had this been Zoe's first alleged rape-rodeo, I could understand. But from the sounds of her, she gets sexually assaulted about as often as I get coupons in the mail.

 

[LullerDerbyRollin]

What I want to understand is how and why him killing himself has to be about guilt or innocence? The entire problem is that the hand puppets for people like Zoe Quinn, for these toxic, self-destructive cultures don't see the bigger problem. You can't help the abuser get better by ruining him, like, do people think the prison system in the US actually works? Are they so shut in that they can't draw the comparisons?

 

[bbfx]

Only a potato-brain would willingly continue to fuck someone every day that also occasionally rapes them.

"Yes, police officer. On Friday he raped me, on Saturday we went out on a date and had sex when we got home, Sunday we spent all day in bed cuddling and having sex, and then on Tuesday he raped me again! You need to make him stop!"

 

[Feline Darkmage]

What I want to understand is how and why him killing himself has to be about guilt or innocence? The entire problem is that the hand puppets for people like Zoe Quinn, for these toxic, self-destructive cultures don't see the bigger problem. You can't help the abuser get better by ruining him, like, do people think the prison system in the US actually works? Are they so shut in that they can't draw the comparisons?

A ton of these so-called anti-fascists sure do come across like the biggest cop-bootlicking fash to ever exist if you ask me.

 

[Clop]

I always imagine that "pussy-walking" thing Zoe described as Alec hooking his fingers in the front and then pulling her along. Still doesn't make any fucking sense to me, but then again comparably women do the "dick-pull" and yes it fucking hurts. But you also don't call it sexual abuse, you call the person a scumbag and dump their ass.

unfortunately, women have proven this situation is not comparable and will continue to date and fuck their abusers so often that it's not even up for debate, you just have to accept that this probably is the case and that somehow it's not her fault because something-something Stockholm, something-something emotional creatures. Sorry to offend on this matter lady kiwis, no insult meant but it is what it is.

Doubt you offend many lady kiwis with this. From experience, the women here have thicker skin than that or straight up agree how fucking insane hoes are bred these days. You're more likely to get a bunch of deluded lord kiwis doing the fucking #notall dance because even subconsciously they're still wired to hop on the white stallion to join the dick jousting for her lady's honor. Get on Twitter though and you'll be skinned alive in equal measure.

As for abuse, yes. A story as old as relationships. No amount of shelters and court bias is ever enough, they still insist that they just could not do a thing. An entire culture about how women are both capable and incapable of everything at the same time.

 

[Rogowski]

Notice that every single story via google news touching on his death specifically avoids mentioning a suicide in the headline?

 

[Caprice Leviathan]

What I want to understand is how and why him killing himself has to be about guilt or innocence? The entire problem is that the hand puppets for people like Zoe Quinn, for these toxic, self-destructive cultures don't see the bigger problem. You can't help the abuser get better by ruining him, like, do people think the prison system in the US actually works? Are they so shut in that they can't draw the comparisons?

Feminist mentality he's already guilty. If he is it's typical male feminist behavior. If not it's typical feminist self-hating behavior.

 

[LullerDerbyRollin]

Notice that every single story via google news touching on his death specifically avoids mentioning a suicide in the headline?

That has more to do with some policy I heard about where they downplay suicide because they don't want it giving others the idea. Especially impressionable kids actually do go and see others doing it and "sign up" as it was. I think this is not malicious.

 

[Toilet Man]

"Yes, police officer. On Friday he raped me, on Saturday we went out on a date and had sex when we got home, Sunday we spent all day in bed cuddling and having sex, and then on Tuesday he raped me again! You need to make him stop!"

This will sound demented but it's almost as if these mentally unwell women get raped but stay with these guys and put the "he raped me" card in their back pocket for when they're done with whatever they want/need out of the relationship, and then whip it out to destroy them. Hell, the guy might not even know they raped her, the concept that a woman could be not consenting in her head but feel too scared to vocalize it actually exists in those circles of people.

As societies liberalise sexually more and more I think we will truly be exposed to the depths of sadism and power-wielding that women have at their disposal.

 

[altkiwi01]

Holy shit, the comments from GamerGhazi/Zoe Quinn's supporters are horrific. Like I've got no words for this, it makes absolutely no sense what so ever.

 

[A.Shitposter]

I made it 30 minutes into the Metokur stream before I had to turn it off because he's so fucking insufferable to listen to, just get to the point you fucking faggot.

 

[CumDumpster]

Did you know that Chelsea Van Valkenburg was once a regular of SomethingAwful?
She's browsed FYAD, but regulared the Helldump board during the site's life.
Knowing this, getting a man to kill himself, must be a day in the life of her and the man behind the anti-comedy site himself "Lowtax".
Then again, if you want to talk about cliques, there's no chance of not bringing up SomethingAwful and the terrible people it made. Should we call this "Kyanka's Law"?

 

[CamelCursive]

Holy shit, the comments from GamerGhazi/Zoe Quinn's supporters are horrific. Like I've got no words for this, it makes absolutely no sense what so ever.

They took the name of their site from Benghazi, an absolute clusterfuck of failure, incompetence, and possibly a lot of actual scumbaggery- all that resulted in the loss of American lives, and the permanent maiming of security forces men all while the administration lied about it to save face before an election and tried to brush it off as no big deal- and these people see it as a joke akin to "much ado about nothing"...

and you're shocked they're practically masturbating over the corpse of a mentally ill man?

At this point, I wouldn't be shocked if they were tearing the genitals off newborn infant boys that even looked at them funny. These are evil, soulless creatures.

Yeah it's this. News reports tend to not mention suicide by name, as doing so causes a spike in suicide rates. You can say what you will about it but at least the intentions are good. Not that I expected any publication to make headlines like
Game dev KILLS HIMSELF after ZOE QUINN accuses him of RAPE, without providing ANY EVIDENCE.

Also, do you think the news media would ever speak ill of one of the greatest ways to shut down an opponent? MeToo is one of the most effective tools to smear someone into oblivion and reduce them to irrelevance, I'm shocked it's used less frequently- but have no doubt it'll happen more and more around elections or when certain people in power have opponents.

 

[Richard L Dong]

This has been the greatest comeback in the history of comebacks, maybe ever. Zoe Quinn you glorious lolcow, I can't wait for all the drama over this shit.

 

[uncleShitHeel]

Also, they're quick on dropping and cancel people because their movement is based on presenting themselves as perfect human beings who only want the best for humanity and how superior they are for this.

This worldview is what gets us witch burnings and deathcamps. At this point I am very wary of any mary whitehouses in society.

GG, fuck anti-GG, Fuck Chelsea and Carl of Applebee's and Jeremy Hambone and woke cunts and based redpilled autists. If I wasn't sick of all of them before (and I was) I'm sick of all of them 30,000 times over for their involvement in this.

This is shit is why i drink. Whiskey anyone?

 

[Edgar]

I love how gaming websites like Eurogamer keep the comments open on the intial report of rape and when the suicide is reported they close comments straight away.

 

[bbfx]

This will sound demented but it's almost as if these mentally unwell women get raped but stay with these guys and put the "he raped me" card in their back pocket for when they're done with whatever they want/need out of the relationship, and then whip it out to destroy them.

It doesn't sound demented, especially when you're talking about a woman like Zoe.
She only enters relationship when she can gain something from them: I don't think she ever sucked a dick without further motives. And there are few things that will get you the same amount of support these days than being a victim of sexual abuse, at least from the kind of crowd she tries to appeal to.
It's not beyond her to stay in a relationship with an abuser only because when the relationship is over she can use that abuse to paint herself as the ultimate victim.

As societies liberalise sexually more and more I think we will truly be exposed to the depths of sadism and power-wielding that women have at their disposal.

Women always used sex as a tool to get what they wanted, they just were a little more subtle and less cunty about it.

 

[Dork Of Ages]

Spoiler: Maya Felix Kramer's reaction

https://twitter.com/legobutts (WayBack Machine)

Interestingly enough, her Twitter bio mentions that she did PR work for Finji, the publisher for Night In The Woods. For those unaware, Maya was one of Chelsea's deepest buttbuddies back during GG prime in 2014.

Spoiler: Teddy Dief's reaction + Evidence of personal friendship with commie NITW dev Scott Benson

https://twitter.com/TeddyDief (WayBack Machine)

He's a dev of Hyper Light Drifter, made by Heart Machine where Chelsea "works" as a "narrative designer".

Spoiler: bonus

@Jaimas, feel free to quote this on the appropriate threads if necessary.
also if i see you newfag niggers taking dyn's bait ever again i will report your posts for thread derailment