Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

[Bender]

Doubtful. Courts rarely allow media to record proceedings, with very few exceptions.

Which is something I don't get, courts are public property, they're open to the public and it's legal to record people in public, so why aren't people allowed to record in a courtroom? Unless I've (more than likely) misunderstood something.

But did Chris Sabat have a casting couch? Probably. It remains to be seen.

You're saying "hey there's no proof about Vic doing X, Y and Z" but you think it's "probable" that Sabat had a casting couch? I think the word you should be using there is "possibly".

I'd agree that I'm pretty confident on Ronica getting fucked, I honestly think Marchi is the most likely to get out unscathed.

But she admitted she wants Vic's head and balls, I'd posit that she's gonna get fucked by Vic (and not in the way she wants) because of that LEWD statement.

 

[Legioneer]

Which is something I don't get, courts are public property, they're open to the public and it's legal to record people in public, so why aren't people allowed to record in a courtroom? Unless I've (more than likely) misunderstood something.

Everything that is part of an official court record cannot be defamatory material (or in any other way punishable by law).
In other words, you can't sue someone for the very fact that some information appeared in the court record. Even if it is very sensitive information.
Everything that is successfully objected by one of the parties' lawyers is removed from the official record. Ideally, your materials should also be edited. Why would the court need to get involved with this? He may simply forbid you to film it and then give you the text transcript.

The important thing is that there are rules in court. You must show respect to the court. Do not talk when you are not asked. Obey to the judge in everything. Get up when you speak (if you are not disabled). So it's not that "it's allowed or not", but it's just the way the judge decides.

 

[Bender]

Everything that is part of an official court record cannot be defamatory material (or in any other way punishable by law). Everything that is part of an official court record cannot be defamatory material .

Why are you telling me that? I never said anything to suggest it could be considered defamatory

Everything that is successfully objected by one of the parties' lawyers is removed from the official record.

Nice, good to know. Still has fuck-all to do with the question I asked though.

Why would the court need to get involved with this? He may simply forbid you to film it and then give you the text transcript.

You somewhat answered my question, which was "courts are public, recording in public is legal, why is recording court proceedings not allowed?"

So I'll rephrase my question in light of your response: why can judges say you're not allowed to record a public court proceeding when those proceedings are open to the public?

 

[RodgerDodger]

From my understanding J. sean in 0-3 with two in appeal.

One of the appeals he has already lost twice and is now trying Federal.

 

[Legioneer]

So I'll rephrase my question in light of your response: why can judges say you're not allowed to record a public court proceeding when those proceedings are open to the public?

Because according to the way the court works, the judge is in charge. So he just can. He can even remove you personally from the courtroom without explaining the reasons. In fact, he can do anything, but with the reservation that then you can appeal. The judge in the courtroom is like a god. But of course, his decisions may be reversed by a higher authority. And he himself may be disqualified if he repeatedly did something quite wild.

 

[Bender]

Because according to the way the court works, the judge is in charge. So he just can. He can even remove you personally from the courtroom without explaining the reasons. In fact, he can do anything, but with the reservation that then you can appeal. The judge in the courtroom is like a god. But of course, his decisions may be reversed by a higher authority. And he himself may be disqualified if he repeatedly did something quite wild.

Thank you.

Are you aware of any notable cases in Texas where a judge allowed the recording of the courtroom for a civil case?

 

[Legioneer]

Thank you.

Are you aware of any notable cases in Texas where a judge allowed the recording of the courtroom for a civil case?

No.

 

[Bender]

No worries, I'm just curious about the publicity of civil court cases, I ain't American so I'm simply curious about whatever these cases can be publicly streamed or recorded.

I also apologise for my previous comment, it was rather standoffish.

 

[Sheryl Nome]

No worries, I'm just curious about the publicity of civil court cases, I ain't American so I'm simply curious about whatever these cases can be publicly streamed or recorded.

I also apologise for my previous comment, it was rather standoffish.

They won't be unless the judge specifically says they will be.

 

[Bender]

No.

They won't be unless the judge specifically says they will be.

So hypothetically Nick can turn up and request permission to record the court proceedings and the judge could allow it?

 

[I can't imagine]

The curious thing about that citation, though, is that Vic was still getting work at Funimation. Even before Broly. So I'm not sure how much I trust Clinkenbeard on that.

He said he wasn't getting as many roles as he thought he should be getting, not that he wasn't getting roles at all. Besides, he was the one complaining about not getting enough work, so it's safe to assume he thought he wasn't getting enough work.

 

[The Demon]

Nobody in the general population knows who these people are or care. I've watched dragonball and didn't know nor care who these people were. They are just voices to me. Now think about all the people who have never even heard of dragonball.

then i don't know, they know they don't have a case. end of story

 

[Dr. Dickhead]

So hypothetically Nick can turn up and request permission to record the court proceedings and the judge could allow it?

Possibly. The likelyhood of it being allowed, on the other hand, is probably astoundingly low. But the judge, theoretically could allow him to record/stream it.

 

[Bender]

Possibly. The likelyhood of it being allowed, on the other hand, is probably astoundingly low. But the judge, theoretically could allow him to record/stream it.

A robot can dream, but I'd find it interesting to see how everything goes in court which is why I was hoping for the possibility of recordings.

And no, robots don't dream of robot sheep.

 

[Skelter Helter]

So Sabat is like Salieri, slowly going insane as his jealousy of Mozart increases, constantly scheming against him, knowing that he is vastly his inferior. At least in the movie Amadeus (they apparently actually got along fine irl).

The thing that really struck me was how petty and small all the voice actors Chuck Huber mentioned came across. Totally unprofessional high school level shit. It really makes it look like these people despised Vic for other reasons and saw the #metoo moment and Hanleia's tweet as the perfect opportunity to try to destroy his career.

Fortunately, these people are as retarded as they are petty and immature.

He said he wasn't getting as many roles as he thought he should be getting, not that he wasn't getting roles at all. Besides, he was the one complaining about not getting enough work, so it's safe to assume he thought he wasn't getting enough work.

You beat me to it. I assume that Vic had some expectation of how much work he should be getting. Given that Coleen Clinkenbeard told him the problem was that directors were complaining about how he would ask to do more takes, I think they were taking both his concerns and the directors' complaints seriously.

After all, if you don't want to work with someone, you say, "You're not a good fit for any of our current projects, but we'll call you if something comes up." You don't tell them the problem is some behavior they can easily correct.

 

[Johann Schmidt]

No worries, I'm just curious about the publicity of civil court cases, I ain't American so I'm simply curious about whatever these cases can be publicly streamed or recorded.

The only time I can remember where anything like that happened was the OJ Simpson case, and the total media circus it became only further soured judges on the idea.

 

[ES 195]

You beat me to it. I assume that Vic had some expectation of how much work he should be getting. Given that Coleen Clinkenbeard told him the problem was that directors were complaining about how he would ask to do more takes, I think they were taking both his concerns and the directors' complaints seriously.

Considering how FMA+B is usually touted as one of if not the best dubs I actually think Vic is doing a good job being a "diva". He's one of the few people actively trying to keep the dub scene alive.
Also, what would a dubbing VA director even do other than quality control? It's not like they have a hand in producing the show.

 

[AnOminous]

I'd agree that I'm pretty confident on Ronica getting fucked, I honestly think Marchi is the most likely to get out unscathed.

The most likely "perfecta" scenario where I got all my bets right would be conspiracy gets thrown out, MoRon remain in for everything, Funimation remains in for defamation but not TI, Marchi gets out entirely. I don't think any of these things are overwhelmingly likely individually, but that's the most complete scenario I have for all cases as to all parties that is likely to come about entirely like that (at about 20%).

The main wobbly thing that determines the outcomes for other things is the conspiracy count. If that stands, everyone is in for everything. If it goes, everyone is only responsible for their own misdeeds.

There's also a mentioned but barely argued vicarious liability theory of liability, but I don't see how that would get Marchi.

Also in Marchi's favor is if she gets out on the TCPA now, she's unlikely to be pursued further. A dismissal, for instance, of just her could not be immediately appealed by the plaintiff, because it would not be a judgment as to all claims as to all parties. So she could only be pursued after the rest of the case.

If the plaintiff loses, that's not going to happen, and if the plaintiff wins, he's unlikely to want to pursue ANOTHER lawsuit after that against someone with the least involvement.

 

[Skelter Helter]

Also, what would a dubbing VA director even do other than quality control? It's not like they have a hand in producing the show.

I haven't done animation and I don't know Funimation's workflow, but I have done ADR for live action film, and it's pretty closely related. The director would rehearse the actors, give them notes on their performances, probably schedule the recording sessions (you don't want scenes that make heavy demands on actors back to back), work with them on their performances in the studio, and then decide which takes are good.

 

[LullerDerbyRollin]

So, say Vic wins, when and how likely is he going after RT? They're Sabat's little puppet and cost him a biggish role with the character Qrow. If he beats Funi he'd have an easy victory on RT, unless he'd like drop it due to fatigue or consider it settled after taking down Sabat. Hmm, this feels like no matter what happens, dubbing will never be the same. Would be nice if he wins and gets to keep voicing Broly.