Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

[AlexJonesGotMePregnant]

Please keep this one thread sacred and focused on the legal aspects of the case, pretty please. Just one thread.

 

[774]

interrupted Ty's mistake.

As they say, "Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake", right?

 

[Imperial Agent]

General PSA for those of you who don’t watch Nick’s streams or follow every minutiae:

According to Nick last night the court went ahead and blocked off the full day of Sept.6th to work on this case in particular, starting at 10am.

EDIT: Apparently there are some other cases on the docket that day according to GRB86, just noting what was said on stream.

 

[Jin Tonica]

General PSA for those of you who don’t watch Nick’s streams or follow every minutiae:

According to Nick last night the court went ahead and blocked off the full day of Sept.6th to work on this case in particular, starting at 10am.

Is that particularly abnormal? I would assume for high profile cases with a lot going on courtrooms would want to finish it as soon as possible.

 

[Happy Fish]

That is, the reason why Ty wasn't ready for this and neglected to look at this aspect, is because in all 20 years of his practice nobody was stupid enough to raise this argument in front of the judge.

But don't you know its time to crack down on those damned fraudulent notaries expediting things and making life easier for everyone? Its against the letter of the law!

 

[Imperial Agent]

Is that particularly abnormal? I would assume for high profile cases with a lot going on courtrooms would want to finish it as soon as possible.

I don’t think it’s really normal or abnormal. I think it’s simply in proportion to the number of filings and requested hearings, and the availability of the court to make it happen.

 

[774]

Now Chupp has a reputation for being efficient, so I doubt he'll need the full 30 days.

Considering the sheer mountains of garbage we've seen so far from the defense... well, maybe not, but I doubt his job is going to be as easy as it should be under the TCPA, so I wouldn't be surprised if it takes a while.

Things might actually quiet down a bit after the hearing.

You really think so, based on what's happened so far? I mean, I wouldn't mind that, but I'm not too hopeful.

 

[fat ugly sped]

Ty is the Notary, any notarization mistakes are completely on him and no one else.

The rules are pretty straightforward, so it strains belief he didn’t understand he was acting improperly by notarizing them.

The main relevance this seems to have is how it reflects on Ty and his ethics, and likely that will be the same issue the judge may take from it.

Edit: Still baffled by people who continue to put e-celebs on a pedestal, do y’all never learn?

To those of you think critiquing Ty when he fucks up is “concern trolling”:

He’s still not going to have sex with you.

If you want people to stop talking about said fuck up, stop whiteknighting for a grown as man who represented a false notary to the court. The conversation would have already died out if people weren’t trying to rewrite history for Ty. It wasn’t innocent and it wasn’t lazy.

If you think it doesn’t matter, cool. It’s fine to think it’s no big deal, just don’t try to lie about what happened because you like this particular boomer.

The point of the rules over notaries is to protect people from having documents purportedly signed by them showing up with a notary stamp. Yes, Ty probably fucked up on the technical procedures. Whatever harm the fuckup caused is born by the affiants, who only suffered minimal harm thereby, if any. For J-dolf to go on a chimpout over it is completely exceptional - the only harm his clients have suffered is from having affidavits withdrawn before the court even had a workday, having their defects in form fixed, and resubmitted with near-identical replacements. It's a fuck-up by the plaintiff, but one that has pretty much zero prejudice, and he's asking for the judge to fix it by giving him the entire fucking moon.

 

[Steve Smyff]

It seems pretty unlikely. If Lemoine had kept his powder dry and suddenly pulled it at the hearing, when Ty would have no opportunity to fix it, it might have been a real problem, but I now doubt it will be.

Lemoine shot his load prematurely and interrupted Ty's mistake.



Fraud would have to be intentional, not just being clueless about being a notary.

Do notaries in Texas get the privilege of being a notary (does the certificate come) in a Cracker Jack box?

Oh wait ... is "in a Cracker Jack box" still a thing? I can't remember the last time I saw a box of one, or heard the saying.

Indeed. It SHOULD die down, but we all can assume it won't at this point.

perfect time for Ty & co. to keep the pressure on funi by inviting Sabat to the party

... or time for Nick to start publicizing the Haberkorn stuff?

 

[Legioneer]

The point of the rules over notaries is to protect people from having documents purportedly signed by them showing up with a notary stamp. Yes, Ty probably fucked up on the technical procedures. Whatever harm the fuckup caused is born by the affiants, who only suffered minimal harm thereby, if any. For J-dolf to go on a chimpout over it is completely exceptional - the only harm his clients have suffered is from having affidavits withdrawn before the court even had a workday, having their defects in form fixed, and resubmitted with near-identical replacements. It's a fuck-up by the plaintiff, but one that has pretty much zero prejudice, and he's asking for the judge to fix it by giving him the entire fucking moon.

The only two people who've been put in danger in this situation are Vic and Ty.
And only if one of the witnesses looks at the document in court and says - it's not my signature and I deny all this statements. And if the expertise shows that the signature is really not from his hand (That's when Vic's got the solveable issues with the case, but Ty's got the big troubles).
Even if the witness says in court that he participated in the drafting of the document, read it and signed it, but Ty was not present. This has nothing to do with the case, even Vic was not harmed. Only if circumstantial that his lawyer is a sloppy one.

 

[Imperial Agent]

The point of the rules over notaries is to protect people from having documents purportedly signed by them showing up with a notary stamp. Yes, Ty probably fucked up on the technical procedures. Whatever harm the fuckup caused is born by the affiants, who only suffered minimal harm thereby, if any. For J-dolf to go on a chimpout over it is completely exceptional - the only harm his clients have suffered is from having affidavits withdrawn before the court even had a workday, having their defects in form fixed, and resubmitted with near-identical replacements. It's a fuck-up by the plaintiff, but one that has pretty much zero prejudice, and he's asking for the judge to fix it by giving him the entire fucking moon.

Don’t fall into the false dichotomy of thinking it’s either J Sean’s exaggerated pleadings or nothing.

What it means depends entirely upon how the judge chooses to interpret it, and there is a chance that the judge takes it as evidence of unethical behavior. Consequences for that can range from sanctions to simply being predisposed against Ty by believing he’s a bad faith actor.

I get that the cool thing to do is parrot Nick’s talking points, but it certainly can be argued that beyond the affiants, the court is harmed by false representations. It was falsely represented that those documents were notarized in front of Ty.

If the judge is generous, he’ll assume Ty... forgot what it means to notarize a document I guess? But this conversation has more than worn out it’s welcome. The same things can only be rephrased so many times.

What Ty did is the equivalent of lying to the court. It can be argued, and apparently will be by Ty, that the thing lied about is inconsequential and shouldn’t matter.

Whether or not it actually matters is not readily apparent as it is up to the judge’s discretion to decide. Likewise, it is up to the general public to decide if they care. Normally the audience wouldn’t matter, but considering this legal defense is crowd funded, the donations could certainly run dry if people loose faith in any of the relevant parties.

That’s really all there is. It’s not the end of the world, but it is something.

 

[Secret Asshole]

As I understand it, Texas has remote notarization and Ty did a British 'Oi mate, ye don't got a loicense fer that' so they weren't properly notarized.

Did he re-submit them?

 

[Jub-Jub]

Is that particularly abnormal? I would assume for high profile cases with a lot going on courtrooms would want to finish it as soon as possible.

Just before the early August conference Funimation's counsel (Volney) sent a letter to Judge Chu(BB) and mentioned 55min Plantiff and 65min defendants argument time. The right honorable ChuBBy has seen the autism on the wall and realised that wouldn't be nearly enough time. Or he's realised that attempts to hear lemonparty speak would take up the whole day.

 

[Legioneer]

I get that the cool thing to do is parrot Nick’s talking points, but it certainly can be argued that beyond the affiants, the court is harmed by false representations. It was falsely represented that those documents were notarized in front of Ty.

You're not being honest, to say the least.

You can check my messages here before Nick's stream and see that I made the same arguments.

But why would you do that if you've read them clearly and there are marks that you disagree with me.

At the time, the point was just that it`s my guess and I'm not a lawyer. And now Nick has confirmed them, and I'm more confident about them personally. I can still be wrong. But for now, I'm more confident that I'm right.

To say that I or others just repeating after Nick - is a lie. And you deliberately lying because you obviously read my messages.

As I understand it, Texas has remote notarization and Ty did a British 'Oi mate, ye don't got a loicense fer that' so they weren't properly notarized.

Did he re-submit them?

He filed an unsworn statements with the second amended petition.
And Nick just said that the whole fraud charge was bullshit. For not following the procedure, Ty wouldn't have any trouble, if those who signed the document didn't complain about it. All you have to do is tear up the defective document and throw it in the trash can.

 

[Reverend]

You just know Ty loves using the word "war,." Also with the way ty worded it, I think Mein Cough didn't know Ron was contacting people.

Of course LemonJello and CaseyCaseum know Ron is contacting people. LemonJello is on twitter doing sperg fights with Nicky Mouse for fucks sake. If anything they are probably turning a blind eye to this just so they can say "well your honor we tried to control them and tell them what not to do, but they kept doing it, at this point we must petition to withdraw from this case...."

That's 4D level Chess right there and I doubt they are smart enough to do that. In my mind, the best and most safest place, that's a great way to get out of this nightmarish case with at least some semblance of lawyerly respect.

 

[Imperial Agent]

You're not being honest, to say the least.

You can check my messages here before Nick's stream and see that I made the same arguments.

But why would you do that if you've read them clearly and there are marks that you disagree with me.

At the time, the point was just that it`s my guess and I'm not a lawyer. And now Nick has confirmed them, and I'm more confident about them personally. I can still be wrong. But for now, I'm more confident that I'm right.

To say that I or others just repeating after Nick - is a lie. And you deliberately lying because you obviously read my messages.

If all you took from that was “I’m saying anyone who thinks this is only copying Nick” you need to reread it champ.

Even in the part you quoted my point is clear, there is an argument for harm beyond the affiants. Arguments sometimes succeed, sometimes fail, but he case can certainly be made.

I’m sorry that an offhand quip apparently derailed your ability to process the information in my post, but despite your apparent high esteem for your own posts my statement wasn’t even directed at you.

 

[Reverend]

Well, he certainly has been slithering around like a little pussy sliding into people's DMs like Nick and our own @JosephTX. Apparently gay ops are afoot.

JoeyTexas got too close to the Poo and it forced him into a timeout. That's one of the golden rules of this place, don't step in/talk to poo.

 

[GRB86]

General PSA for those of you who don’t watch Nick’s streams or follow every minutiae:

According to Nick last night the court went ahead and blocked off the full day of Sept.6th to work on this case in particular, starting at 10am.

That is not correct, the docket is open but there is a case behind the Vic case, BHBH is scheduled at 10:00am, DS et all V. Colleyville HS is scheduled for 1:30pm

 

[mindlessobserver]

Why is everyone assuming Chupp is some autistic spastic who is gonna screech over Ty getting the documents filed 10 minutes late and ran afoul of some random rule of document notorization that was corrected immediately? These are sorts of issues that only really matter once trial has commenced and there is a jury involved. The whole point of "pre-trial" is to iron out the kinks and mistakes that are inevitable so that when trial begins everyone knows what the arguments are, what the presented facts are, and all the evidence is pertinent and valid. Screeching about a filing error right now is silly.

 

[Imperial Agent]

That is not correct, the docket is open but there is a case behind the Vic case, BHBH is scheduled at 10:00am, DS et all V. Colleyville HS is scheduled for 1:30pm

Good to know, I hadn’t had a chance to check for myself yet.