TCPA Hearing 9/6/19 - Marchi ran from the Law, TI crumbles, conspiracy still on the table, and collective autism from all sides.

[Reigensveld]

You shouldn't get too emotionally invested in things like this. Never forget you're on Kiwifarms -- there are no sacred cows and any side to a drama are fair game to laugh at. Also the erverlord might (read: will) laugh at you for taking things too seriously:

https://twitter.com/Leviticus19_18/status/1170086311119806464

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I also like how everyone on both sides thinks this means the case is over. It isn't. There's still appeals. Also now both sides know what the Judge wants. Failure is an excellent teacher since it shows you how to succeed (or at least do better) in the future. For example the judge wants specific numbers for the damages caused by the defamation; next time Ty will know to provide those.

If you're so emotionally involved in this case that you are neglecting your body, mental health, and/or family, there's only a few cures at your disposal:
1. Go outside.
2. Neck yourself.
3. Call your ISP and request a cancellation of service.

You could try to find balance in your life, but several spergs have kindly informed me that it can't be done, so ho hum, what are you going to do?

 

[Pomniman]

So... Y'all posted an insane amount. What questions are there? I'll try to catch up but that's a lot of pages.

Most of it is just pointless sperging, you really shouldn't bother reading it.

 

[Scuttle]

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Linkara is so painfully unfunny that his only contribution was a Red Dwarf joke from its worst series.

 

[AnitaSarsleezian]

I can see how someone who is supposed to be retired would have liked that more.

Bingo. Making judge means, to Chupp, that he should be spending his days at his $50,000 a year country club, knocking back Arnold Palmers and sitting in a steam room with old, naked men. Instead he had to come in today, watch a bunch of people accuse each other of all kinds of shit, in an entertainment medium that probably makes no sense to him, and get a fuck ton of tweets and pictures of dumpster fires thrown at him. He's pissed that no one respects the fact that he needs to get to his country club so he just starts dismissing shit when it gets too long winded, tangled, and confusing because he needs to get to his car already. He's two Arnold Palmers behind.

 

[Sheryl Nome]

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Imagine having hidden an actual pedophile for years and now be dunking on people.

 

[Monkey Prick]

I think the person I'm most sad for in all of this is Chuck Huber. He suicided his career to help a friend out only to have some one boomer up his affadavit and then get it tossed in the trash by the judge within seconds. We can sit here and be outraged at kickvic ruining a mans career but Chuck put his on the line and trusted Ty not to fuck it up.

 

[Immaculate Ape]

I think the person I'm most sad for in all of this is Chuck Huber. He suicided his career to help a friend out only to have some one boomer up his affadavit and then get it tossed in the trash by the judge within seconds. We can sit here and be outraged at kickvic ruining a mans career but some Chuck put his on the line and trusted Ty not to fuck it up.

According to people in the room, Ty spoke about his affidavit and the points brought up in it. Chupp didn't disregard it.

And Chupp didn't give a fuck about the notary issue.

 

[Reverend]

I think the person I'm most sad for in all of this is Chuck Huber. He suicided his career to help a friend out only to have some one boomer up his affadavit and then get it tossed in the trash by the judge within seconds. We can sit here and be outraged at kickvic ruining a mans career but some Chuck put his on the line and trusted Ty not to fuck it up.

The affidavit can be used at a later date and time in the trial. This isn't the only time it will be used, furthermore Chuck can be subpoenaed and say the same thing in court. There's hope yet for Chuck's testimony to live on, it's already wrecked havoc on Funi and Sabat's lives as is.

And Chupp didn't give a fuck about the notary issue.

Which means Chupp has bigger fish to fucking fry and not some bullshit that doesn't mean jack shit in the long run.

 

[Bogey Fairy]

Are they able to appeal that? Cause that's actually exceptional when you know Vic blew up after #KickVic started, not before.
Also doesn't saying he's public make it harder for defamation to be proven?
Man I was kind of okay with Chupp's judgement until hearing that. That's just dumb.

Public figures do have a harder time proving defamation. Public figure status is typically awarded to very famous people that you would expect the average person to know whom they are - e.g. Stephen Colbert.

 

[ES 195]

Based on HerExcell's recounting and description of Chupp's tone and approach, it's very appealable. Chupp was making demands for evidence that went beyond a prima facie showing, and apparently Ty and Chupp were on different pages.

Chupp apparently was already predisposed to dismissing Marchi, no matter what was brought up. He also wanted Ty to provide a dollar amount of damages for KamehaCon, and wouldn't consider any other arguments if it didn't give him a dollar amount

But he did have a dollar amount didn't he?

Well it'll be interesting to see where this goes. The only predictable thing about this case is it's unpredictability.
I'm just mad team MoRon didn't get as blasted as I expected. Sure the ISWV sperging is funny but I had a craving for a specific flavor of milk today and I feel like I got cock-blocked.

 

[ChucklesTheJester]

I think the person I'm most sad for in all of this is Chuck Huber. He suicided his career to help a friend out only to have some one boomer up his affadavit and then get it tossed in the trash by the judge within seconds. We can sit here and be outraged at kickvic ruining a mans career but some Chuck put his on the line and trusted Ty not to fuck it up.

A worthy sacrifice in the name of Lulz.

 

[Markorian]

Imagine having hidden an actual pedophile for years and now be dunking on people.

Even better, Dan "arbitrary is anything I don't understand" Olsen is an actual pedo that got caught uploading cp to 8chan in order to send his own posts to the police.

 

[verissimus]

I think the person I'm most sad for in all of this is Chuck Huber. He suicided his career to help a friend out only to have some one boomer up his affadavit and then get it tossed in the trash by the judge within seconds. We can sit here and be outraged at kickvic ruining a mans career but some Chuck put his on the line and trusted Ty not to fuck it up.

At this rate they all may be screwed if Sony says screw you all.

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

Sorry I haven't really been keeping up, but is this true? I have a feeling it isn't, but I want to confirm.

Twitter

 

[Monkey Prick]

Again, this is why you're missing the issue: Chupp treated this like a motion to dismiss. The point is, the Huber and Slatosch affidavits should have provided *prima facie* evidence to allow the TCPA to pass, and therefore discovery to force these people to make the statements, turn over their emails, et cetera.

But again, Ty boomered that up and had to file them again after the deadline which resulted in Chupp completely ignoring them. It doesn't matter how unfair that is, Ty should've had that shit drafted and notarized 4 bloody weeks ago considering what a silver bullet Slatosch information was going to be.

 

[X Prime]

My understanding of the affadavits, especially when it comes to Slatosch, is that Chupp thought the TI in question didn't count because Vic was reinstated later.

Which seems questionable at the very least, since Vic had to jump through hoops to get reinstated.

 

[Pope of Degeneracy]

Fun's over guys and galpals, back to our boring miserable lives.

 

[TJ-Weber]

Having a lot of the actions of the defendants occur over the worldwideweb makes its that much harder for
boomer judges to understand. Real world stuff is hard to prove as it is, the internet is a whole nother can of worms, specifically
twitter and its shifting rules and principles, hell even their UI.
I reallly hope that in appeals Vic gets justice. Sometimes thats what it takes to win.

 

[Son of Sparda 84]

 

[Immaculate Ape]

But he did have a dollar amount didn't he?

Well it'll be interesting to see where this goes. The only predictable thing about this case is it's unpredictability.
I'm just mad team MoRon didn't get as blasted as I expected. Sure the ISWV sperging is funny but I had a craving for a specific flavor of tard cum today and I feel like I got cock-blocked.

It's impossible to show how much Vic suffered from his KamehaCon cancellation, and re-invite. It's impossible to show the dollar amount that was brought in or lost, and that's what Chupp was demanding.

He didn't care about any other convention, he apparently focused on KamehaCon