Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

[eternal dog mongler]

Actual ankle dislocation usually takes a few ligaments down with it. It's not something that you just brush off.

Now, slight subluxation, sure.

 

[yomamamasofat]

Lmao that shit show is brilliant not wonder she wants to hide

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Going to be waiting for this vid like.

It would appear she has deleted these comments and all of the comments that out her for what she really is. She clearly can't cope with the reality that people will realise what's true and she will no longer get all the attention and sympathy of being an "Autie" and will no longer get away with throwing tantrums every 5 minutes.

 

[BringBackForensicFiles]

Update from the hospital

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These people are so transparent...

Edited to add:
After getting out of the Er this afternoon (just to remind everyone how she was so weak she needed a wheelchair to get into the Er in the first place) well she walks home and posts a story rant while doing so. Later on she also goes for a shopping trip with two small children to Costco, and she is solo, aka no husband. Now we fast forward to her continuing to rant about the Er visit she was less than happy for. But maybe I've gotten down to the bottom of why this doctor pinned her as a fraud...

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Now kids, if you want to be taken seriously by a medical professional, maybe don't dramatically tell them you will die unless you get medical treatment asap.

(sorry there's no receipts of the walking, they were both story videos and I lack a screen recorder)

And these are the types that ERs DREAD! You know they’re going to complain about everything, including the care, and have 10748291 allergies (more allergies=more of a pain in the ass), and demand the attention of the nurse constantly despite them having 2 other patients with legit issues.

I’m laughing that the doctor consulted a case worker. You know they were both rolling their eyes and that she was basically told she needs to seek outpatient care and that the ER isn’t the place for chronic issues. Hopefully her EMR is finally flagged, if it wasn’t before.

And sorry, but huge LOL to her claiming she’s going to die all while not being hooked up at ANYTHING, even the tiny pulse ox!! Hahaha idiot.

 

[DrMrsBlueMorpho]

Ooh lawd, some real winners over there!

Pardon my paranoia but I noticed a "LindaEDS" posting over at IFF (so many IF-adjacent subs, I'm starting to lose track). It couldn't really be Linda from Intervention, could it? That seems too good to be true.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

I’m laughing that the doctor consulted a case worker. You know they were both rolling their eyes and that she was basically told she needs to seek outpatient care and that the ER isn’t the place for chronic issues. Hopefully her EMR is finally flagged, if it wasn’t before.

Charting "rule out malingering"/conversion disorder/Munchausen's/factitious disorder raises ethical concerns. As in, if they get sick in the future someone might read the chart and assume they're faking it. Which would be, well, bad.

So, in general, few clinicians do it.

Kicking people out if they're trying to use the ED as their PCP, though, hell yeah.

 

[Ms.bojangles]

And these are the types that ERs DREAD! You know they’re going to complain about everything, including the care, and have 10748291 allergies (more allergies=more of a pain in the ass), and demand the attention of the nurse constantly despite them having 2 other patients with legit issues.

I’m laughing that the doctor consulted a case worker. You know they were both rolling their eyes and that she was basically told she needs to seek outpatient care and that the ER isn’t the place for chronic issues. Hopefully her EMR is finally flagged, if it wasn’t before.

And sorry, but huge LOL to her claiming she’s going to die all while not being hooked up at ANYTHING, even the tiny pulse ox!! Hahaha idiot.

The doctor was definitely rolling his eyes when she claimed to be dying within the next couple months especially from the mostly benign issues she claims. He did the typical tests which I can only assume came back normal and sent in a case manager as they are usually first line of defence with psych issues. I'm sure he didn't accuse her directly of faking as that would be a huge hit on him if he was wrong but probably wanted to see why her anxiety was so high about dying and if she had been receptive would have offered her some resources of being a stay at home mom to allow her to take care of herself better. I'm assuming they thought she was a hypochondriac more than everything which is super common in the medical field especially ERs (tons of people coming in for every pain suggesting they're in organ failure)

Charting "rule out malingering"/conversion disorder/Munchausen's/factitious disorder raises ethical concerns. As in, if they get sick in the future someone might read the chart and assume they're faking it. Which would be, well, bad.

So, in general, few clinicians do it.

Kicking people out if they're trying to use the ED as their PCP, though, hell yeah.

The Er is definitey not there to treat chronic issues that you know about already. They are only there for acute emergencies. So even if something is in a "flare" they expect you to make an appointment with your PCP. They have a very low tolerance for whining also.. As they probably have another patient literally crushed or bleeding out in another room.
Another thing people don't realize is urgent cares and walk ins, even pcps can directly admit you to the hospital or ER if they think you need a higher level of care based on their assessment. But of course spoonies need the ER points cause walk in just isn't as cool...
She also got tons of support (and I'm sure monetary gain/support) from the whole "hospital said I'm faking and kicked a dying girl on the street to walk home" narrative

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

A long time ago, Sarah Jean posted a video titled "AM I AUTISTIC?" of her visiting a psychiatrist, and she was asked to fill out multiple lengthy questionnaires. One of them was the MMPI-2 and another was the WAIS-IV, but there were more that I couldn't catch (she mentioned one that had 500ish questions). She complained about how owrful it was for her to fill out so many questions because of her EDS or #ChronicHandHurtySyndrome or whatever.

Is it possible that one of those question sets might have been the type with trick questions mixed in? Or would her doctor be able to determine if she wasn't being truthful based on how she answered?

I remember it being pretty hilarious that she was going to wail about filling out the paperwork her doctor requested, but it would be even more amusing if the test(s) were rigged to weed out the fakers.

MMPI has an L-scale and the L stands for "lie." It's a combination of questions meant to catch fakers and people trying to beat the system, and duplicate questions to see if someone consistently answers them differently because in filling out the long-ass survey they forgot which symptoms they had claimed earlier.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

MMPI has an L-scale and the L stands for "lie." It's a combination of questions meant to catch fakers and people trying to beat the system, and duplicate questions to see if someone consistently answers them differently because in filling out the long-ass survey they forgot which symptoms they had claimed earlier.

Yep.

I'm pretty sure that's the secret sauce behind SIRS too. It takes forever to administer so they're likely to just get bored and fuck up.

 

[elliptical narcissist]

Pardon my paranoia but I noticed a "LindaEDS" posting over at IFF (so many IF-adjacent subs, I'm starting to lose track). It couldn't really be Linda from Intervention, could it? That seems too good to be true.

IF recently started discussing Porochista Khakpour, who is really, really sick with all the usual suspects, wrote a book about it, sucks in money from GoFundMes like you wouldn't believe and lives on Twitter 24/7/365.

I was just trying to find the tweet on my phone but Twitter isn't loading for me. She tweeted about being harassed by Reddit and a couple of her followers joined in. It was pretty hilarious. Linda was one of them. I'm pretty sure Twitter Linda and LindaEDS are one and the same. LindaEDS and another new account, Duras123, showed up in the PK threads at the same time, blasting the IF people for daring to harass PK.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

another dispatch from our favorite soft-stooled alcoholic

Did anyone else notice the popping and clicking in her intro music? I think ... I think she does the oldfag thing we used to do when we would hold up a tape recorder to the radio when our jam came on. Like instead of clipping the song properly she played it on her phone into the computer microphone to make a clip. It would explain the low quality recording anyway

-Takes the dowrgs to the dowrgpark. Freckles can’t jump into the hatchback of the SUV because she’s too fat. SJ thinks this is hilarious.
-was on the couch doing paperwork and trying to do her awkwardly named newsletter but decided to not neglect her dogs. There’s only one dog at the park. For someone who needs a wheelchair and a service dog for mobility she sure handles the rough terrain of this park well on just her two functioning legs.
-planning to have dinner with some old people and have wine at their house
-freckles has anxiety and won’t leave SJ’s side at the park. “She’s very trained. I wish she wasn’t as trained and could just be a dog.” Yeah your dog is scared shitless. She’s not trying to make sure your health is fine. She’s trying to make sure you’re not abandoning her there forever because predictably shitty life with you is better than frighteningly unknown life without you.
-home, making a scrapbook of her awkwardly named newsletter so she can look back on her many accomplishments. Shows how she plans to do this because no one knows how a binder works
-ordered more flyers from fedex because she didn’t want to use all all of evildad’s ink. What a thoughtful daughter. Who paid for the copies?
-prepping for a cancer event, making signs. Elementary school tier craft time.
-squeeze paint bottle hurts her chronic hand-hurty syndrome
-LOL FLIP FLOPS ARE ON BACKWARDS LOL Sarah jean you’re such a character!
-her home health delivery hasn’t arrived. God dammit these amateurs are going to kill her with their late salt water
-“we get Asian food. Sometimes we get Thai which is still technically Asian food.” She’s going to “grub grub grub”
-talking about CBD, friends hand her 2 huge bottles of oil and a bottle of pills. She complains about how low the strength is and says it’s not going to do anything.
-she ate too much, now acting like a drunk idiot.
-home health is there past 9 pm and this infuriates her because it’s past nine pm! Where have you BEEN?!
-cut to tiredface. “So so so so so so tired so tired so so so tired.” No you’re drunk.
-had a “short mini-downfall” about being single and have nothing to show for her life at almost 35. But it passed and she forgot all about it. Goodnight!

 

[Free Pancakes]

If she legitimately holds her mic up to record her intro music instead of clipping it I'm going to make myself sicker than she pretends to be, entirely through laughing too much

 

[Cold Waffle]

another dispatch from our favorite soft-stooled alcoholic

Did anyone else notice the popping and clicking in her intro music? I think ... I think she does the oldfag thing we used to do when we would hold up a tape recorder to the radio when our jam came on. Like instead of clipping the song properly she played it on her phone into the computer microphone to make a clip. It would explain the low quality recording anyway

-Takes the dowrgs to the dowrgpark. Freckles can’t jump into the hatchback of the SUV because she’s too fat. SJ thinks this is hilarious.
-was on the couch doing paperwork and trying to do her awkwardly named newsletter but decided to not neglect her dogs. There’s only one dog at the park. For someone who needs a wheelchair and a service dog for mobility she sure handles the rough terrain of this park well on just her two functioning legs.
-planning to have dinner with some old people and have wine at their house
-freckles has anxiety and won’t leave SJ’s side at the park. “She’s very trained. I wish she wasn’t as trained and could just be a dog.” Yeah your dog is scared shitless. She’s not trying to make sure your health is fine. She’s trying to make sure you’re not abandoning her there forever because predictably shitty life with you is better than frighteningly unknown life without you.
-home, making a scrapbook of her awkwardly named newsletter so she can look back on her many accomplishments. Shows how she plans to do this because no one knows how a binder works
-ordered more flyers from fedex because she didn’t want to use all all of evildad’s ink. What a thoughtful daughter. Who paid for the copies?
-prepping for a cancer event, making signs. Elementary school tier craft time.
-squeeze paint bottle hurts her chronic hand-hurty syndrome
-LOL FLIP FLOPS ARE ON BACKWARDS LOL Sarah jean you’re such a character!
-her home health delivery hasn’t arrived. God dammit these amateurs are going to kill her with their late salt water
-“we get Asian food. Sometimes we get Thai which is still technically Asian food.” She’s going to “grub grub grub”
-talking about CBD, friends hand her 2 huge bottles of oil and a bottle of pills. She complains about how low the strength is and says it’s not going to do anything.
-she ate too much, now acting like a drunk idiot.
-home health is there past 9 pm and this infuriates her because it’s past nine pm! Where have you BEEN?!
-cut to tiredface. “So so so so so so tired so tired so so so tired.” No you’re drunk.
-had a “short mini-downfall” about being single and have nothing to show for her life at almost 35. But it passed and she forgot all about it. Goodnight!

I'm glad you mentioned the sound quality of her intro music. I noticed it a while back and I can 100% confirm that she definitely recorded with a second device. It's one of the many reasons why I skip the whole intro altogether.

I know we've been over this 1,000 times, but I wish she'd stop romanticizing Freckles' behavior. The dog is overweight and terrified and she thinks it adorable. S-J is so out of touch with reality, even more than usual these days. Must be the alcohorl.

Also, I find it entertaining that she never shows herself drinking anything that isn't soda or alcohol. Saline infusions are s00per necessary, everyone. Her sensitive tummy cannot process ingested fluids because of her gastroparesis, but she can definitely chug soda and peach schnapps.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

I'm glad you mentioned the sound quality of her intro music. I noticed it a while back and I can 100% confirm that she definitely recorded with a second device. It's one of the many reasons why I skip the whole intro altogether.

I know we've been over this 1,000 times, but I wish she'd stop romanticizing Freckles' behavior. The dog is overweight and terrified and she thinks it adorable. S-J is so out of touch with reality, even more than usual these days. Must be the alcohorl.

I noticed it was low quality but figured she had just had a shitty copy of the song. The popping is what tipped me off, as I am one of those old fags who had a shoebox full of tapes that were rife with my preteen microphone and radio antenna adjustment sounds.

I am pretty amazed with how anxious and avoidant freckles is she doesn’t seem to have any problem with other dogs. Most of the really anxious puppers I’ve known avoid other dogs at all costs and turn into a snarling snapping crouching terrified mess if the other dog gets in their face (barring ones they are really familiar with.)

 

[Cold Waffle]

I noticed it was low quality but figured she had just had a shitty copy of the song. The popping is what tipped me off, as I am one of those old fags who had a shoebox full of tapes that were rife with my preteen microphone and radio antenna adjustment sounds.

I am pretty amazed with how anxious and avoidant freckles is she doesn’t seem to have any problem with other dogs. Most of the really anxious puppers I’ve known avoid other dogs at all costs and turn into a snarling snapping crouching terrified mess if the other dog gets in their face (barring ones they are really familiar with.)

The "tell" for me was the fact that the volume levels vary throughout the audio clip. You can tell that she's moving her recording device (probably her phone) around, and the clicks only add to the effect. I still have some of my vintage radio mixtapes, and they're a special kind of awful. She's so unaware of how she portrays herself, even through simple stuff like this. I love it.

I think Freckles would do great with an owner who really knows how to socialize her and help with anxiety. She seems like a 10/10 good girl, but S-J is a terror when it comes to providing opportunities for her dogs. They get no mental stimulation. I've never owned a dog (single cat ladies represent, yo), simply because I know I wouldn't be able to provide enough in the way of attention and stimulation. It baffles me that S-J is an animal "rescuer" (and we all know how well that played out), but seems to have zero awareness of how to care for a dog.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

The "tell" for me was the fact that the volume levels vary throughout the audio clip. You can tell that she's moving her recording device (probably her phone) around, and the clicks only add to the effect. I still have some of my vintage radio mixtapes, and they're a special kind of awful. She's so unaware of how she portrays herself, even through simple stuff like this. I love it.

I think Freckles would do great with an owner who really knows how to socialize her and help with anxiety. She seems like a 10/10 good girl, but S-J is a terror when it comes to providing opportunities for her dogs. They get no mental stimulation. I've never owned a dog (single cat ladies represent, yo), simply because I know I wouldn't be able to provide enough in the way of attention and stimulation. It baffles me that S-J is an animal "rescuer" (and we all know how well that played out), but seems to have zero awareness of how to care for a dog.

TBF anxiety in dogs can be a real nightmare and freckles was already 3 when SJ got her so had three years of god knows what kind of reinforcement for her behaviors. It takes a ton of patience and moving very very slowly because anything that actually scares them can set them way back. We have a pooch who was totally neglected for years, to the point where he has hearing loss because his prior owners ignored a massive ear infection until the ear canals permanently swelled and he didn’t know what leaves or grass were when we got him - he was so afraid of grass he wouldn’t touch it because he’d been raised in a concrete floor pen and a crate his whole life. It took almost a year of walking the exact same route at the same time every day before he calmed down enough to enjoy a walk, and when I moved to a new city he regressed so hard I had to get him on actual antianxiety meds.

So it’s hard, and it’s not something she’s going to be able to do on her own because she doesn’t recognize the signs that her dog is scared (or, my theory, she does know deep down that her dog is scared but the sick girl costume is more important so she ignores it and hand waves it.) She needs someone to make her take the dog on daily calm predictable walks on the same route instead of to a new frightening unknown place every time she goes somewhere. Christ even taking her to Walmart daily might be better than taking her there once a month just to scare the hell out of her.

Edit: re fluids from your earlier post, she doesn’t claim to need them because of GP but because no matter how much water she drinks she was still passing out from POTS - which her cardiologist called her on multiple times. I don’t know why he hasn’t canceled the saline except that it’s keeping her quiet for now.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

Did anyone else notice the popping and clicking in her intro music? I think ... I think she does the oldfag thing we used to do when we would hold up a tape recorder to the radio when our jam came on. Like instead of clipping the song properly she played it on her phone into the computer microphone to make a clip. It would explain the low quality recording anyway

I was more interesting in "good m--good afternoon."

Sarah-Jean knows it's not apropos to start drinking as soon as you wake up in the morning.

 

[iluvmylife]

I laugh uncontrollably every time she says “information publication mail.”

 

[Erica_Kane]

You know, they make absorbent garments that look like colorful, age-appropriate scarves but act like a bib, and adaptive spill-proof cups that don’t look like baby bottles, so that people with actual neuromuscular conditions they cant opt out of can stay clean and self-feed while maintaining some dignity...

But you know, if you want to make a mockery of those people who didn’t choose to have devastating neuromuscular conditions while drawing as much attention as possible to how much of an asshole you are, I guess that’s your right.

I'm pretty sure the headphones she wears are marketed to autistic children. Because of course.

So I spent some time digging into this "Bee" character. Her name is Bernadette Crisp, and based on a photo that her mother (Germaine Crisp) uploaded in 2016, Bee(nadette) had no (visible) neurological issues as a young child.
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One of my favorite approaches to munchiewatching is finding visual contradictions. After a few minutes of skimming through Bernadette's "Bee" page (I prefer Bernadette, since it's not as infantile), I found some interesting nuggets.

Spoiler: Bernadette the CP Cosplay Kween

In this photo, posted two years ago on her Facebook page, Bernie displays very accurate manual dexterity in the form of a neatly braided hair-do, complete with evenly-spaced and secured floral pins. She says in the comments that this photo is from two years ago. Her smile is even and her head is up straight. She looks like a normal human being.
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But then you get to photos such as this one, wherein her posture is very reminiscent of a person with Cerebral Palsy. She appears to have limited control/movement of her right arm, and her left arm appears rigid (mimicking something akin to a contracture, or general stiffness/lack of control). This is the stance of someone who is unable to do most of their own self care.

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In her "Learning to talk live come see what I do" video, she begins with no manual dexterity in her right hand and limited dexterity in her left. Her tongue is idly flapping around in her mouth (she nearly bites it at one point). Moments later, she demonstrates that she has borderline precise control of her tongue (nearly touching her nose and giggling). Which is it? Do you have apraxia and limited control of the muscles that allow you to speak or can you do neato schoolyard tricks like tough your tongue to your nose? She outright says the word "good" in the beginning of the video, but moans random syllables throughout the majority of the rest. She's intelligible at some points, but reverts back to "urrrrrgh" -- as if she forgot she couldn't talk.
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Later in the video, during her fun makeup adventure, she demonstrates her super Palsyesque skillz with this facial expression, followed by a controlled "beauty guru" pout once she smears glitter on her face. Note how relaxed her right hand is...and her face in general.
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She swings wildly between levels of disability. It's quite impressive, really. I'm not sure what else her deal is (and I'm no medical guru), but I figured I'd share with the class.

She definitely doesn't have apraxia, quick sperg my son has it and is young. But it's much different and no CP like freezes she definitely can't decide what neuro disease she is going for.

A long time ago, Sarah Jean posted a video titled "AM I AUTISTIC?" of her visiting a psychiatrist, and she was asked to fill out multiple lengthy questionnaires. One of them was the MMPI-2 and another was the WAIS-IV, but there were more that I couldn't catch (she mentioned one that had 500ish questions). She complained about how owrful it was for her to fill out so many questions because of her EDS or #ChronicHandHurtySyndrome or whatever.

Is it possible that one of those question sets might have been the type with trick questions mixed in? Or would her doctor be able to determine if she wasn't being truthful based on how she answered?

I remember it being pretty hilarious that she was going to wail about filling out the paperwork her doctor requested, but it would be even more amusing if the test(s) were rigged to weed out the fakers.

I used to handscore MMPIs back in the day (I'm not that old either) and they have questions that are off the wall and also ones that contradict one another.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

I used to handscore MMPIs back in the day (I'm not that old either) and they have questions that are off the wall and also ones that contradict one another.

MMPI is pretty awesome. It was actually designed to detect people who minimize psych symptoms along with malingerers.

Did you ever get to administer SIRS?

 

[Cold Waffle]

She definitely doesn't have apraxia, quick sperg my son has it and is young. But it's much different and no CP like freezes she definitely can't decide what neuro disease she is going for.

Yeah, I don't agree with her having it, either. Earlier in her Facebook lineage, there's a claim that she loses the ability to speak, and becomes nonverbal in the same way that people with Autism are nonverbal (only it doesn't come and go if you're on the spectrum). But it's temporary. I don't understand how that's even possible, but that was what she was claiming at one point. Now I think she's leaning towards losing speech as a result of "seizures," but that doesn't seem entirely possible, given that I think it's been established that her seizures aren't true seizures that are detected in the brain.