Nick Rekieta's Weeb Wars videos & livestreams - MULTIPLE SLURS

[Dean Pentel]

There won't be any leftover funds.

I only caught the stream after an hour and a half, but the most concerning part of what I saw was the admission that: should the final judgment not yield favorable results, it would go to appeals, and Nick seemed to suggest the crowdfunding would need to progress further to bankroll that.

I don't know how much more money can be ringed out of this, and if it doesn't ultimately yield favorable results, it would be very hard for anyone to spin it as a win for Vic just because he can still go to conventions if people are out $200,000. If that's really the goal, hire a cheaper lawyer maybe? Perhaps it will be a win for Vic, but it will be a loss for the audience who genuinely wanted to see some form of justice. Calling it a win for Vic at this stage is reminiscent of Bush declaring Mission Accomplished in 2003.

I'm also bothered by the expression "I don't care what [opposition figure] says. I don't care." That's clearly untrue. So much emotional and professional capital is invested in proving people wrong on Twitter on both ends. If you don't care, why spend so much time having public arguments with people? I don't watch every stream but I clearly remember in the times I did watch that there was space dedicated to criticizing people's messages on Twitter even there.


Even Ty is emotionally invested in this with constant appears on Nick's show. "We'll be in touch." is now 100 tweets, multiple livestream appearances, and a merchandise line featuring t-shirts that say "Damnit Nick we lost the case again", which is going to look a lot like the now-bankrupt Milo Yiannopoulos selling t-shirts saying "stop being poor" if this asshole doesn't course correct immediately.

1,200 pages is fucking preposterous. No one in the history of the world has ever read anything 1,200 pages long. Ever. Anyone who claims they've read something 1,200 pages long is a fucking liar. Filing last second to be cheeky is a really cute move in the world of Twitter politics but if anyone ever put on my desk 1,200 pages of anything -- even 1,200 pages of thousand dollar checks for me to cash -- on as short a notice as possible, I would be fucking livid.

Law is a flawed and emotional machine disguised as an empirical science. Surely, based on the written law, the case law, and the facts of the case outcome XYZ is guaranteed. In a perfect world, sure. In the real world, not really.


This setback would be a lot more tolerable to me if it wasn't other people's money and the arrogance on display.

A legit good posting on such a perspective for this. I hope you get to indulge your fetishes doubly this week.

 

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1,200 pages is fucking preposterous. No one in the history of the world has ever read anything 1,200 pages long. Ever. Anyone who claims they've read something 1,200 pages long is a fucking liar. Filing last second to be cheeky is a really cute move in the world of Twitter politics but if anyone ever put on my desk 1,200 pages of anything -- even 1,200 pages of thousand dollar checks for me to cash -- on as short a notice as possible, I would be fucking livid.

Of those 1,200 pages, 1080 are the complete deposition transcripts and copies of tweets Ron Toye made. There is far less material to go through than what was put in Ron and Monica's TCPA motion to dismiss, printed out in landscape mode.



They wasted the judge's time with pointless bullshit like this exhibit sourced from law twitter, a list of @NameRedacted lawyers and law students who think the case is without merit.

 

[beautiful person]

This setback would be a lot more tolerable to me if it wasn't other people's money and the arrogance on display.

This is basically how I've been feeling about this. I feel bad for Vic because this is his career on the line, and will likely end up being his finances on the line. Nick sounds reassuring when he says there are plenty of ways to fix this shit, and admits that it takes a lot of time, but imo he underplays how much money those fixes and that time is going to cost. Nevermind that Nick and Ty still get their money, regardless.

 

[LL 196]

I just have to make a small disagreement w/null though...

Even if you don't care about something, if someone says something really stupid or hypocritical, it may deserve comment. Doubly for Nick since he can use tweets to entertain the audience.

 

[Jamestyalor4312]

If Vic loses this, I fear all men in highish positions will have to go to work in fear. Because:

1. All that has to be done is for some gay ops to assemble deciding they want to get rid of you.

2. Come up with stories that can't be proven true but had no witnesses to prove it false

3. Get enough drones on twitter to mimic it and voila.

It's insane how much effort Vic is having to put forth to clear his name and all it took to muddy the fuck outta his name was a 30 minute meeting between these folks. Winning this won't clear his name either, it will help him sure. But people like montello and company will never let this go they are mentally damaged and want someone to take their autism out on and Vic is their guy.

 

[AnOminous]

1,200 pages is fucking preposterous. No one in the history of the world has ever read anything 1,200 pages long. Ever.

There was barely over 100 pages of actual filing. The rest was the depositions which were going into the record anyway eventually. If he wants to actually cite them in any paper he files, they have to be in there.

I'm also bothered by the expression "I don't care what [opposition figure] says. I don't care." That's clearly untrue. So much emotional and professional capital is invested in proving people wrong on Twitter on both ends. If you don't care, why spend so much time having public arguments with people?

He should live up to that statement and actually stop bothering with Twitter except for announcements and other shit. Getting into retarded slapfights is just begging to turn into a lolcow. One minutes you're responding to a few of the worst offenders but let it go on for a few months and he'll be down in the mud with that bald cocksucker Doucette.

Best just not go down that road.

 

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Of those 1,200 pages, 1080 are the complete deposition transcripts and copies of tweets Ron Toye made. There is far less material to go through than what was put in Ron and Monica's TCPA motion to dismiss, printed out in landscape mode.

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They wasted the judge's time with pointless bullshit like this exhibit sourced from law twitter, a list of @NameRedacted lawyers and law students who think the case is without merit.

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Yeah, the actual document was only like 35-50 pages or so.

I wonder if it would have been possible to file that, and then reference the existing crap, or file the 1100 pages of bullshit as another filing right after.

 

[MrYoloDickSwagger]

This has probably already been answered, but curious. How common in texas practice is it to rule from the bench? In federal court it seems very rare especially re summary judgment or 12b(6) as opposed to discovery supervision, etc. Appellate courts want a meaty and well thought out opinion to figure how why the trial court did what it did. In Texas do judges just shoot from the hip on this stuff? This judge must be confident that the case is borderline frivolous to rule as quickly and reflectively as he did.

 

[AnOminous]

This has probably already been answered, but curious. How common in texas practice is it to rule from the bench? In federal court it seems very rare especially re summary judgment or 12b(6) as opposed to discovery supervision, etc. Appellate courts want a meaty and well thought out opinion to figure how why the trial court did what it did. In Texas do judges just shoot from the hip on this stuff? This judge must be confident that the case is borderline frivolous to rule as quickly and reflectively as he did.

It's not very common, at least not for motions disposing of entire causes of action. This is how judges rule on evidentiary objections, not entire cases. He apparently went in looking to throw things out and didn't bother doing much listening before doing it.

 

[Mr Florida Man]

KickVic's current LawTwitter provided talking point is that the TI was kicked aside because according to In Lipsky, Ty would have had to know the exact dollar value amount of all economic damages that the TI caused, or it won't pass the TCPA -- and thus, TI can literally NEVER pass the TCPA, because those are all fact finding exercises and

The exact dollar value? What exactly are they citing? That's practically impossible to properly discern even with discovery, especially for TI w/ prospective contracts, isn't it? From what I know, Ty should just be able to provide evidence that could lead a reasonable person to infer Vic was damaged by $0.01 or more.

It's crazy how Anti-SLAPP laws are praised for keeping fees down and making lawsuits more timely, more often than not they seem to do the exact opposite.

 

[Nontransferable]

In my opinion, anyone who donated to the GoFundMe got exactly what they asked for and more. And as people here keep saying, not everyone is out to save the West. Some just want to laugh and this was the greatest show on Earth for months. Hundreds of hours of entertainment. That's worth spending a few bucks on.

Compare it to MarzGurl's GoFundMe. She raised $4,418 over four months ago and the only update is that she paid her $650-an-hour lawyer for 15 minutes of his time. Feel sorry for those people.

Edit: I had forgotten about Justice for Jeremy. What did the fine folks get out of their donation for his lawsuit? A half-hearted apology from Matt Fantastic. Sargon's still collecting monies for his, $117,000 USD and counting, and that hasn't moved an inch since it started over two years ago. Vic's GoFundMe has been a masterclass in professionalism by comparison. There were immediate, tangible results outside of the courtroom like getting invited back to Kameha Con.

 

[Ivan Shatov]

This has probably already been answered, but curious. How common in texas practice is it to rule from the bench? In federal court it seems very rare especially re summary judgment or 12b(6) as opposed to discovery supervision, etc. Appellate courts want a meaty and well thought out opinion to figure how why the trial court did what it did. In Texas do judges just shoot from the hip on this stuff? This judge must be confident that the case is borderline frivolous to rule as quickly and reflectively as he did.

It's not.

Even though Chupp may be unorthodox, it's his court. One of the things about the law is it's an adversarial system. This goes for judges too, while I'm sure they all aspire to be the perfect neutral party that's not always the reality. Sometimes they do things no one agrees with and people involved in the case get to deal with the consequences.

It really doesn't matter if Chupp ruled off the bench or not. If he was just a complete bastard who wanted this case gone, he would have thrown out all the causes of action. The fact he's considering the others shows he's at least trying.

Looking forward to seeing his rulings, good, bad or indifferent.

 

[AnOminous]

The exact dollar value? What exactly are they citing? That's practically impossible to properly discern even with discovery, especially for TI w/ prospective contracts, isn't it? From what I know, Ty should just be able to provide evidence that could lead a reasonable person to infer Vic was damaged by $0.01 or more.

It's crazy how Anti-SLAPP laws are praised for keeping fees down and making lawsuits more timely, more often than not they seem to do the exact opposite.

All it's really done is turn all these lawsuits into two lawsuits. There's now a mini-lawsuit up front before you get to the real lawsuit.

 

[Garm]

Everyone has their own reasons for helping Vic. Hell, even the usually black hearted Kiwi Farmers were won over to his cause.

The point being the Go Fund Me was so people could do "something". And they have. Whether they will continue with that obligation or not is impossible to tell.

I think that Jamie Marchi slipping away has everyone spooked and questioning the wisdom of this course of action. The point of all this was to try. That is all anyone can do.

 

[BimWitted]

Even if Vic loses, I won't regret helping him to *try*.
I didn't give much though. I don't have much to give.

I mean sure, if we could have seen exactly what would happen... in that case, the gofundme wouldn't have been started.
If people could see the future... well, I probably would've been aborted.

 

[AnOminous]

I think that Jamie Marchi slipping away has everyone spooked and questioning the wisdom of this course of action. The point of all this was to try. That is all anyone can do.

Anyone who expects nothing but victory after victory is flat out dumb and is going to live a life of disappointment.

 

[Garm]

Anyone who expects nothing but victory after victory is flat out dumb and is going to live a life of disappointment.

I agree. I will admit that I thought round 1 would go a bit smoother and quicker but I have accepted being wrong on that.

I think people had a lot of misconceptions about how the legal system works and how the world works in general. This lawsuit ended up being a rude awakening.

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

So what happened to all the people claiming "if you blame the judge you're a lolcow and just as bad as KV!"? Seems to me like the judge is in fact a spacker that needs to get his shit together.

The judge did some weird shit but only one side was ready for it- something Nick didn't really remark on when someone asked why it was that the defense was prepped for the judge going beyond the normal TCPA stuff but Beard wasn't. Maybe that wouldn't seem so stark if we hadn't seen streams with Beard getting mad at the internet and yelling about how stupid everyone on the other side was.

Blaming the judge doesn't make anyone a lolcow but I think it's short-sighted as he is the hardest element to control. Appeals? Sure, but they cost money, time, and may not work anyway. Would have been a lot easier to go in to the hearing ready for anything (or at least as much as the other side was) than trying to repair stuff now.

 

[TherapyMan]

Anyone who expects nothing but victory after victory is flat out dumb and is going to live a life of disappointment.

One thing that I think people in their enthusiasm have deliberately ignored is that this sort of case wouldn't have been tried without the Go Fund Me warchest, not just because Vic generally didn't want a lawsuit, but because from the get-go, this has been an expensive and risky endeavor without a much of a payout. The point of the Go Fund Me, at least as I understood it, was to empower Vic to fight a case he otherwise couldn't. Marchi, Toye, and Monica aren't deep pocket defendants, and the case against Funimation, the only deep pocket, is an uphill battle to begin with. People seem to have forgotten that in their eagerness to jerk themselves off.

The only thing I can express disappointment in is Ty's drafting abilities.

 

[Prj4MW8iPT3vmFM2rzDc]

I haven't been able to follow this due to personal life. I heard hoes are mad.
Can anyone give me a summary and confirmation or denial on the states of hoes in fact being mad or not?